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You know what? When we began to look for Old Roses -- things we couldn't buy at the local chain nursery -- there were, like, two sources in the United States.
We've gone through a period of having many, many good nurseries, and a veritable banquet of rare roses to choose from. Now, we have lost nursery after nursery, and I by golly cherish the ones we have left.
I know the RVR people, a little. Not enough to call them my best friends, but enough to use first names, y'knowwhatimean? Nice folks. Keeping this nursery going isn't EASY.
I order a rose once in a blue moon, because most of what I'm growing ain't in commerce. When I DO order, RVR is where I usually go. The plants they've sent me have always been good ones. I have certainly never seen one that was insect-infested.
The complaints here astonish me.
Certainly the post which started this thread appears to be suspect, as it is the one and only post ever from that person, and whoever it is has not further participated in this thread. Why would anyone do this?
Coincidentally, I was at RVR yesterday morning. We were visiting relatives in Ashland, OR. I wanted to get 'Perle D'or' for a neighbor who was taking care of our cats while we were gone. Turned out that RVR was only 10 minutes from where we were, so I called them and they had it. We showed up at 8AM to pick it up. Lovely place - a house and acreage on top of a hill, beautiful gardens. Three people helped us, including the owner. Lovely, healthy blooming band. All the way home it rode with us in the air conditioned car. When we stopped for any length of time I put it in the cooler. Got home safely, and my neighbor was ecstatic.
Jackie
If you pour liquid rose and flower killer on the ground around the roses, according to instructions, you won't get any significant chewing at all. Why wait? You can also buy Imidacloprid (active ingredient in Bayer product) and mix a solution yourself, instead of paying a lot of money for the pre-mixed stuff.
As stated they are sawfly larvea (Rose Slugs)
Kill em if you pick them off the bush because they can climb back up on the bush...
I did a experiment not long ago and I watched 3 different rose slugs climb back up on to the bush after being placed away from the bush...
Pam, that's what we have too. Until your husband can get to everything, maybe you could walk the perimeter with a bunch of baggie ties and pegging hooks and scraps of fencing? And just make do up as far as you can reach safely? That's how I make repairs. Perhaps tacky, yet pretty effective. Again, best wishes!
Ingrid, I look at your roses and can help but noticing how well foliated they are. You should see some of my roses ... almost naked.
There are probably nutrient deficiencies involved due to the extreme heat and the water stresses which occur during it, no matter how much or frequently you water. During this mess, the prime directive is just keeping the blamed things alive. I have not fertilized at all, nor has anything other than plain old Department of Water and Power terrible water been sprayed. Mine are frying like mad, but there is nothing to be done about it until these conditions improve. Kim
Hi Carol,
The pollination germination studies were not for applying the pollen to the flower, but to determine, using a microscope, whether a certain pollen is fertile.
Whether you pull or cut off the anthers is probably just a personal preference. If you are planning on using the flower that you removed the pollen from as a mother, I would expect that cutting would possibly be better as I assume that pulling could slightly damage the hip surface and could be a potential point for fungus entry. I use tweezers and pull the anthers off.
My rose hybridizing information is at:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
I think the whole problem here is that we are trying to compare apples to oranges. HT's and Shrub roses are two different classes for a reason. If you are expecting HTs to grow and bloom in the same manner as Shrub roses then you surely will be disappointed. Same is true the other way around. If you are expecting Shrub roses to give you the large beautifully formed blooms of an HT you'll be disappointed too. You can not compare them to each other. That's unfair to both classes. In my experience if you try to even compare one HT against another you come up perplexed. EVERY variety of rose is DIFFERENT. They each have their own habits and no two are alike. You need to just enjoy and appreciate each one for it's own unique characteristics.
I like this thread. It's one of the best so far. It has heart and soul, you can feel people's love and passion about their shurb roses and HTs. It has carried out many wonderful rose photos, it's very educational for gardeners all ages. HRose, you might need to send Kate a bottle of Canadian wine, I am sure she will say hello again. :-)
Cheers
I am in the process of digging up 30 roses, including large teas because of construction happening in my yard. It's not that hard. If you have a spot, just make sure you have that spot read, hole dug before you take it out of the old spot. If you are keeping them in pots for awhile, put the pots in the shade and keep them hydrated. You may lose some leaves or buds, but they should be ok.
Oh dear...I saw ants in my potted roses this morning. This is the first time we've had ants prancing about rose plants. I am going to try the cinnamon sticks method. Can I grind up the cinnamon sticks and sprinkle them across various pots? The cinnamon sticks found in Indian stores are potent (since it is used quite often in our cooking).
Thank you, rose friends, for the great advice!
Problem here is we get a lot of rain and we get dew on the rose leaves almost every night so the rose leaves are wet until mid to late morning. I have noticed rose leaves being wet at 10pm-11pm some nights from dew.
So organic products just wash off and have to be reapplied so often that it seems like it causes more BS problems. Plus its a pain in the a**! lol
It must be our dew here, too, Jim. I have some really dry spots in my yard that also get a whole lot of wind, yet I still get fungal problems that require dampness. I mean these plants really bake, and the grass won't grow due to the sun, heat, and water stress. I do get a lot of dew, though, every morning and thunderstorms aren't rare here at night... bummer. It doesn't take many hours of dampness for some mean fungi.
Any type of rose can be grown in a pot if it's the appropriate size for the rose...but not INSIDE! Roses are not house plants. They need to be outside in the sunshine and fresh air. If you can amend the soil they will do fine in the ground too. Basic care is to keep them watered, fertilize them and prune them whether they are potted or in the ground. However, I don't think this is the right time of year to plant roses in Texas. You should check with a local rose society for the best time to plant in your area and for what types of roses do best in your area.
Hi PeaceLilySam:
Welcome! I've been growing roses less than a year, but I wanted to share the below link on container roses from my rose society. Seil is right; your local rose society can offer lots of advice. I live in a warm region in Southern California and the first 'newbie" mistake I made was thinking that roses in my area needed 6 hours of full sun. They fried, because I had them in clay pots and the intensity of sunlight was too severe. From my local rose society and forum members familiar with my zone, I learned that my young roses in my area would appreciate filtered sun (outdoors). I donated my clay pots to friends, because a clay pot is essentially a clay oven in warm regions. My roses have forgiven all my mistakes except the heat. But once I got through that one, I've learned they are a joy to grow.
Here is a link that might be useful: Container roses-Santa Clarita Valley Rose Society
Nice to see the deer are finally paying their way. :)
Carol
Hey, Steve, I love your deer stories too!! Have to laugh...I hate, hate, hate poison oak. I'm sooo allergic to it that it's frightening. Happy that your deer got rid of it at your place!!! Have a good one! :-)
This post was edited by dove_song on Thu, Jul 31, 14 at 16:21