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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

It is showing "out of stock" at Angel Gardens, but a note on their site says to send them an email to ask if they might have some smaller plants that they are growing out.

Under no circunstances should you order from the last vendor that you mentioned. I don't care if the rose is $1, it won't be worth the trouble.

This post was edited by diane_nj on Tue, May 13, 14 at 19:53

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:56PM
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CapeHeart(z6ccMA)

Yes I had looked on Angel Gardens! Thanks so much I should have emailed them Thank You! :) Yes I heard the last one isn't a good source.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 4:48PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I agree--JC is gorgeous. However, my bush has been a bit on the wimpish side since I first planted it 6-7 years ago--never really has "matured," as it were. Just not a vigorous rose at all.

Kate

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 8:55AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Far better disease resistance on JC. Far better fragrance on RR.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:30PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

I think it is in zone 2 or 3. Have tried to find it on map. Looks like it is al little west of Anchorage. Thanks, Kate. I have tried to find zone before, but will try to research a little further!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 11:36AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

My sister is in Anchorage. Wasilla is a wee bit warmer, it's considered "Mat-Su" (See link) but the rose recommendations are about the same.

Here is a link that might be useful: Roses in Alaska

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:28PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Congrats, Charleney!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 1:54PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Yes, I would love to see a photo too. Wow! 62 years old. Almost as old as "moi". lol

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:20PM
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annhelen(8b GA)

How thorny is Carding Mill??

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:25PM
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andreark

Not very, that I have noticed. Of course I have Pristine,
Oregold, and some other HTs that look as though they
are armed liked gladiators....Nothing next to them looks thorny. I never wear gloves, so I think I would have noticed.

andrea

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 1:00PM
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Melissa Mc (6b)

I'll update you on my climbers--

New Dawn grew huge and had a cane almost over the arbor until winter hit. I had to only prune back the winter kill and now it's covered in leaves and new canes. It's my best grower.

The 4th of July is not doing well--as of today I see no green anywhere and I'm worried it got RRD. Our nursery guru says to wait and see but I'm about to rip it out.

Joseph's coat is leafing out nicely and has new shoots.

My Abraham Darby (was its own root) is really growing like a weed and I hope it just continues.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:12PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Dani, I grow Eden, Jasmina and Renae. They are all wonderful, but Eden is picky about conditions as far as repeat goes. Renae throws a lot of new canes, but she's easy enough to keep in bounds even here, as long as you plan on pruning. She has the best repeat for me, and she's totally thornless! I have her on a shed now, but I think she'd be great for an arbor as long as you are prepared to prune hard if necessary. She has lax canes, so you have to train her as she grows, too.

Jasmina is pretty thorny! Little thorns, but thorny. Love her, though :)

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:55PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

You are looking for hybrid teas with "exhibition form". There are many. Start with the lists at Roseshow.com, which give the top winners. You can research photos of the roses at helpmefind.com, and also, the Santa Clarita Rose Society has lovely photos in the linked article.

I don't remember where you live, so care may be an issue. Also, many varieties are only available via mail order.

Some potentials off of the top of my head: Crystalline, Hot Princess, Vererans' Honor, Randy Scott, Touch of Class (plant not always full, but Sara_Ann just posted a photo of a very nice one that her sister grows), Kardinal, Folklore, Rina Hugo, Gemini, Signature, St. Patrick, Cajun Moon, Moonstone (won Queen of Show at the ARS National Convention last weekend), Mavrik, Affirm, Louise Estes, Let Freedom Ring. Mister Lincoln can have good form.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 10:04AM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

This one sounds like just the thing (for the East Coast)

So many awards - see the awards tab, but we can't have it in the US?

Here is a link that might be useful: Apache

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 11:12PM
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kathy9norcal

Is Black Magic still available.? I love mine. Stays dark red even in the heat. It never gets bluish. My camera, when I took this picture, didn't capture how dark the red was. It is a med-tall narrow bush for me, lots of blooms.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:51AM
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kansas.girl

Wow, I would love to see your garden, Kate. I can only imagine how beautiful it must be! I feel like I have so long to go before I can enjoy anything as lovely as that at my house. Glad to hear the severe weather we just had didn't affect your garden!

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 10:52PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Have a great time! I'm sure it'll be gorgeous :)

Most of my roses are still buds -- so many buds! I can't wait. Some roses had to be cut all the way back, so it's nice to see so many doing well after the awful winter.

Blooming for a while now: Purezza and Pompon de Paris, Cl.

Just started but already looking nice: Lavender Dream, Natchitoches Noisette, Parade, Georgetown HP, High Society, Pat Austin, and a pink poly whose name I can never remember :D Oh, and Renae started!

I even have a tulip magnolia 'Jane' who is still blooming right beside Parade, and it's so pretty. Parade almost caught the lilac bloom this year, too! She didn't mind the winter one bit.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 11:46PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Rose Tone and alfalfa pellets are sufficient. Nothing else is needed. In fact, the pellets may not even be needed since Rose Tone already has some alfalfa in it.

What rose is that? If it is Double Delight, you need to know that DD hates Daconil.

Kate

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:33AM
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astronomer2(6)

to dublinbay: I'm convinced my problem was frost. My roses are now looking pretty good for this time of the year. The rose shown is not Double Delight. The name I have down for it is Spicy Fragrant, but I'm a little worried that this name is incorrect. I keep a table with all of my roses listed, with name and year acquired, so I don't have any reason to doubt this name, but I can't find anything about it on the internet!! Thanks for your help, David

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 7:17PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

If you want to hold off on watering, then I would not deadhead them. Deadheading sends a signal to the plant to start the reblooming process. You will want to make sure they stay hydrated for the best blooms. I'm so lucky to never have to worry about water here in S.C. Its a tough decision to not encourage new blooming as thats certainly why we planted and babied these plants!

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 3:52PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Wow, that is a big difference. I wish I could say why but I really have no idea what might cause that on the same plant. Unless it's a sport

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 3:42PM
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