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jacqueline9CA

rose_toes - yes, that is all one bush - we couldn't fit two on the house! The wall it is growing on is 3 stories tall. It has a full Southern exposure. It gets full sun after about the first 10 feet from the ground, which only get about 2 hours of sun. In this picture you can see the base of it (behind the green short bush, which is another rose not blooming when this pic was taken).

You should be able to grow it well in your zone - just plant it where it is as sheltered as you can, with as much sun as you can. It will grow up a tree or a building. As I said, you need to be willing to wait 1-2 years for it to start to take off.

Jackie

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 1:58PM
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roseseek

Rosetoes, Lady Banks grows well in Tehachapi, Ca, up in the mountains between Mojave and Bakersfield where there is plenty of winter chill for stone fruit. The area ranges from zones 8a to 8b, with probably many other modified versions of each due to the mountainous terrain. She may not attain the massive proportions of Jackie's nor the monstrous ones here, but she's definitely "hardy" enough for those types of climates. Give her time and room and she'll probably displace the rest of the garden! Kim

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 8:42PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks again. I think I'll just have to experiment.

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 9:51AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Very good points and I didn't think of that but it makes perfect sense!

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 11:08AM
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trospero(8)

The photo in the initial post is - I guarantee you - a Photoshop manipulation; the person simply selected the red channel and did a 100% desaturate. Its the easiest thing in the world to do, if you have any experience with Photoshop at all. See?...

    Bookmark   December 28, 2013 at 10:36AM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Yeah. I think you're right. Seems impossible to get that black of a rose. Nice visual you gave. :)
Carol

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 2:08AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Yes, I'm also glad your power is up and running, but my, was your house cold! How did the pipes survive it? I wish one of our trees would have an "accident" so some of my roses in too much shade would have more sun. Looks like you might have some firewood, too. Diane

    Bookmark   December 28, 2013 at 5:59PM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

Diane, once it hit 4C (39F) indoors we drained the pipes and shut the water off and ran to my husbands' folks' place, cat and all. The worst that happened was that the pilot light on the hot water tank went out, which isn't a big deal at all. When the tree broke it tore down our phone/internet/cable wire, but my hubby is very handy and he was able to MacGyver it back together until the servicemen can get here (which hasn't happened yet). And yes, we now have bountiful firewood!

BTW, my hubby thought I was nuts when "Hey, I can plant more roses now!" was the first thing out of my mouth after that branch came down! lol

About chickens - who woulda thunk they'd munch roses! I've been a city slicker my whole life and so never had any of my own, but I've been privileged to work in the company of many different types of animals, and I find it special no matter how 'mundane' the critters. Although now that I think of it, I could probably live without so many urban squirrels... talk about garden-destroying thugs!

    Bookmark   December 28, 2013 at 6:59PM
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zaphod42

These are the ones that I was considering.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardener's Edge fabric pots

    Bookmark   December 27, 2013 at 3:27PM
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leezen4u

I've used 15 gallon smart pots to grow most of our roses to a more mature size before planting. They develop a very healthy root system and don't suffer as much stress when they are planted in the ground.

Also, I can test the rose in the spot I've chosen for it to see how it looks / grows / flowers there. I've changed my mind quite a few times about a new roses' location because it did not grow well there.

If you put the cloth pots on top of soil the plant will root into the outside soil which is a plus until you move the pot. Then you have to pull up those extra roots. There are so many roots left in the bag though the plants don't seem to mind other than needing a little more water than before.

Bottom line is they work really well for me.

Lee

    Bookmark   December 28, 2013 at 12:31PM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Jim, there is soil under my raised bed. The soil used to be lawn until it was pulled up last year.

Almost every rose is listed as "disease resistant" these days. That being said, I'd rather have something interesting or exotic if I can have only one bush in that space. Mildew is not a problem here since it doesn't rain from April till November ...

I was hoping for a bourbon or moss rose or something else not mass marketish. Thoughts, anybody?

    Bookmark   December 27, 2013 at 1:37PM
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jacqueline9CA

Personally, I would plant one of the smaller tea roses there (my 'Safrano has stayed a mannerly size for over 40 years, and is gorgeous and blooms 11 months of he year) - they bloom constantly in warm climates, and you do not have to spray them. A china rose would also be a good choice (look at pictures of 'Old Blush', or 'Mutabilis') - partly it depends on what kind of rose look you like.

Or, you could build a climbing structure in the bed and plant a pillar type rose.

Jackie

    Bookmark   December 27, 2013 at 5:10PM
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leezen4u

Our best white rose is Pope John Paul II. It blooms better than most of my HT roses, including Mr. Lincoln and Double Delight. We have 3 JPII's in our cutting / fragrance bed with 6 Mr. L's and 4 DD's. The JPII's are disease free (no spraying) are more prolific and repeat quicker than ML and DD. The fact that JPII performs so well while they are all in the same bed, same soil, sun exposure, water, etc. tells me this is an excellent rose compared to 2 of the great roses of all time.

This photo was taken this morning Dec. 26. I am waiting until after the New Year to prune but I stopped dead heading and reduced watering about 2 weeks ago.

One of the top 3 HT's of the 20 varieties we grow. The other 2 great roses for us are Secret and Peter Mayle.
JP II is a great rose, vigorous, disease free, prolific and fast repeat and great cut with a very strong fragrance!

Lee

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 11:24AM
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teakettle2

I thought I would mention my favorite white rose - its a floribunda though: Bolero. Its a Romantica rose - so fragrant! My zone is quite different than yours but did see some nice pics of it in the rose gallery in your zone.
Love your Happy Cows!

    Bookmark   December 27, 2013 at 10:24AM
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Looking for peach silk!!Anyone have a clue where to purchase peach silk?
Posted by Prettypetals_GA_7-8 December 21, 2013
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alameda/zone 8

I got a Peach Silk a long time ago from Heirloom when it was in their catalog. I liked it so much I asked about it - wanted 2 of them. They must have had them in inventory as they sent me the 2 roses in my order. They are now growing in large pots and I plan to plant them in the ground this winter. Ask and they will probably find one for you. See the other post on this rose - apparently they are available.
Judith

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 12:36PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Hi Judith!! I started another post after talking with shawna at heirloom. Hopefully they will reproduce some more if we get enough people wanting one.

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 10:32PM
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seil zone 6b MI

In your warm zone and long growing season roses will get much larger than they would for me so I'd stick with one beautiful specimen plant. If it's workable a one of those gorgeous fountaining OGRs would be a real focal point.

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 10:25AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

What I might do with that space is plant two Munstead Woods (Austin) in opposite quadrangles and then the low frilly white hardy garden geranium (perennial) in the other two opposing quadrangles. Should be quite dramatic--dark red/purple rose and airy white perennial.

Or for a specimen, I might plant one Bourbon--either Souvenir de la Malmaison or its nearly identical twin Mystic Beauty (available from Roses Unlimited). Perhaps for the first year or two, plant some interesting smaller/low-growing annuals in each of the corners.

Or another specimen choice--taller and more upright growing--try Austin's Lady of Shalott--or browse the Austin site for another taller growing, disease-resistant, floriferous shrub with blooms of a different color. Many of his introductions the past couple years would be excellent choices.

Check the Austin cite here:
David Austin site

Are you familiar with helpmefind.com ? Wonderful data base with lots of photos on just about any rose in existence. Look up other roses there.

You would probably need to buy any of these from an online nursery since they are not readily available in local garden centers.

Good luck. I like the idea of your raised bed there.

Kate

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 1:14PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Yes, Merry Christmas!!! Hope you all have a blessed year. :)
Carol

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 3:15AM
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Ronn Bonites

Merry Christmas! I hope your holidays aren't as blue as this "blue rose".

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 8:46AM
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toolbelt68(7)

Soooo, what you all are telling me is that instead of worrying about my neighbors pine needles landing in my yard, I should go over and rake her yard to get more of them. Thanks a lot..... just more work for me....grrr..... and I came on here looking for help...... lovely......

Hee hee, Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!

Hmmm, raking isn't such a bad idea after all........

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 7:01AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

HAHA Toolbelt. My pine 'forest' has just gotten to the point where it gives me enough straw to use as mulch. I do have to rake it up though.

In most of my beds, I prefer bark chips, which are also pine. But on hills and around the trees, I'm not going to pass on some 'free' mulch. And raking is great exercise.

    Bookmark   December 26, 2013 at 7:31AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I hope all turns out well with the heating situation!
God Bless!

    Bookmark   December 25, 2013 at 9:31AM
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lsst(7b)

I hope you have heat soon. Take care

    Bookmark   December 25, 2013 at 7:29PM
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DrPekeMom

All right, I have ordered Bolero instead, and told Glamis Castle to eat cake. I never got to the point where scent was an issue, given its early demise. Scent is important to me, and I'd never heard the diaper pail issue. Thanks everybody!

I've also made the decision to move Lagerfeld and give him a chance in the back bed and to replace him with Bouquet Parfait, given that I don't think Lagerfeld is getting enough light.

Here's a picture of Perfume Tiger this morning--it made me happy.

    Bookmark   December 24, 2013 at 5:06PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

The West Adams district would be Sunset Zone 22, so a coastal influence most (85%) of the time. Ideal for roses. Enjoy!

There are drip-kits for watering containers that you can hook up to a timer. They may or may not be helpful for your particular situation, but something to consider.

    Bookmark   December 24, 2013 at 6:10PM
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kittymoonbeam

I think it's great that you have blooms in December. I'm glad you found a way to beat the deer and grow roses again. Good luck with the new ones. If you ever need a good yellow, you might like Eternal Flame. It grows so tall that most of it would be higher than they could reach.

    Bookmark   December 23, 2013 at 6:40PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh that's lovely! So feminine looking. :)
Carol

    Bookmark   December 24, 2013 at 1:07AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I think we have two different conversations going on here, and it gets rather confusing who is answering whom and from which conversation.

At any rate, I give up. No solution for my problem, I guess.

Kate

This post was edited by dublinbay on Mon, Dec 23, 13 at 20:21

    Bookmark   December 23, 2013 at 8:14PM
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Jsmith1776(9b)

Okay, I feel bad for you Kate. Here is the solution for you. You are currently using IE browser with Adblock Plus. To get rid of the column content to the right of this column, you will need to use another browser such as Chrome. You will need to install another program called "Adblock" without the plus. Adblock plus is older then Adblock. Marketing at its finest. The PLUS makes you all in thinking it is better. Its' original name was "SIMPLE ADBLOCK for IE"

Here is a link that might be useful: Here is the proof

    Bookmark   December 23, 2013 at 10:29PM
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