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I also have had very good results from my Climbing Pinkie....never has disease of any kind.
Molly

Thanks Seil, it certainly has been a learning experience. I watched Paul Zimmermans video on you tube in training climbers and it was very informative so I hope it works out like it's supposed to lol.
Molly I would love to see pics of your pinkies.

It sounds like a once blooming rose. They only bloom on old wood. Usually those are pruned only AFTER they have bloomed out for the current season. However, if it hasn't bloomed yet and you don't see any buds forming on it yet it may not bloom this season so pruning it now should be fine. It could be that this past winter killed off the year old wood that would have bloomed this season. It was a very nasty winter.

Take out any dead wood and cut it down to the height you want then leave it alone to grow back new wood that should bloom next year. Yes, keep it watered and fertilize it. If you have any pictures from last years bloom post them and maybe we can ID it for you.

Yes, I think it's a one bloomer.
I didn't deadhead this year, so it's stopped.
I'll trim the baby down and see what happens.
Thanks for the suggestions!

There could be any number of reasons why that first bloom is skimpy. It's too new a plant to decide yet if it's a mislabel or not.

Well I now have some good size blooms coming along, as shown in the pictures below. But I also have another question, what could be causing the yellow leaves on the plant?

I know over/under watering could be happening although I know it is not under watering. And also I read it could be because of light not getting to those leaves due to the leaves at the top of the bush.

I know the rose is doing well due to all of the new blooms and growth going on, just not near the bottom.

Thanks

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I have heard the 'acidic clay soil means no Dr. Huey' but I can attest that the Dr. Does quite well here in our red acidic clay. Too well, in fact.

Buford,

Huey will do well enough in acidic clay, but my real concern is that it is not very suitable to colder climates. It will typically decline rapidly or die off altogether in 3 years up here. I can't really say how Huey performs in US zone 6b long term as I have no experience in such a scenario, but I do know that multiflora will not have any cold related issues and would probably be better suited overall when you add acidic clay into the mix.

Thank you Frances for the detailed instructions on planting bands. I just ordered two bands from Rouge Valley for delivery next week.

If I understand correctly, I will pot these bands up into one gallon containers, keep them watered and fertilized, and set them outdoors in a sunny location until October. Then bury the potted plants in my garden, mulch the first several inches, and leave them through winter. Come spring I can dig up them up, remove the pot, and transplant into their final location.

I also have a home in central NJ, so I'll plant one there and one here at my Virginia home.

Tom

You are very welcome, Tom! Your understanding is correct. As I said, I have used this approach for many years and never lost a little rose yet! I hope it'll all work out as well for you. Please send us an update in spring. If you are inclined to take pictures, I'd love to see photos of your Old Ports next year!

All best,

Frances

Very pretty!!!

Ooh!!!!! Lovely.

Roseseek, there WAS a diesel vehicle idling by the bush this week!!! I suppose if the leaves are sticky, they can pick up the exhaust.

There was a vinca bush near the roses that was horribly infested with...what, aphids, white flies? When I yanked it I noticed stuff flying in the air, gnats or dusty stuff, not sure. Left a greasy mark on the pavement it had grown over. I sprayed the rose bush with water which didn't do much unless I rubbed the wet leaf between my fingers. It's on the old growth, not the newer growth. We'll see how it goes now that the vinca is gone.

Thanks everyone.

It's been a bad year for white fly here, too. Getting rid of the vinca should help relieve the water stress caused by the competition and eliminate their habitiat. I would turn on the hose to a trickle and wash all the yuck off the rose foliage. It will rehydrate the rose and help prevent the diesel from destroying those leaves. If you put down your fertilizer before you wash the foliage, you can kill two birds with the same stone...cleaning the foliage and watering in the food. Good luck! I'm glad it appears it was something simple. Kim

Zack is right, that's the good Doctor and if you don't take him out, right down to below the ground, he will eventually take over and destroy your rose.

Follow the cane(s) down to the ground and then dig the soil off of them and find out where they connect to the roots. At that point you want to RIP OFF the canes. Yank down and away HARD. Don't just cut them back because they will just grow right back again. You need to destroy the growth node so it will not send up another shoot.

Thanks for the replies. I did cut it off but I didn't do it right to the root. I will try tomorrow to get down to the root.

I think I remember seeing 'Mirandy' being sold in body bags last spring. I have never grown it, so I don't know if the picture resembles it. The picture does not look like Mr. Lincoln to me.

Your 2nd noid reminds me of The Generous Gardener.

Here is a link that might be useful: The Generous Gardener at HMF

Also,for an hybrid tea,it has clusters of blooms...I'm a novice rose grower,and many of the roses I bought are so finicky! But this one si outstanding.event the jappenease beetle hordes stay away from it!

I hear you Jim. One worthy pic with the old 3mp Olympic.

Bloom does look nice!

Thx y'all :)

Very beautiful. What is the fragrance like?

I know that fragrance is important to gardeners, but keep in mind that the two weakest genes in the roses are the deep red and the fragrance one. Pirouette does have a "rose smell" but it isn't strong. So if you breed a beautiful deep, velvety red with a Damask fragrance, you will have a shrub that will cause you more problems then say a pink one. Papa Meilland is a good example. The old father desperately wanted to breed a top red rose and when he was dying, his son went into the fields to try and find any flower that would make his father think it was a good one. He picked a bloom from a sad looking shrub with lots of BS on it but had a perfect flower on it. He took it in and showed it to his father who got excited because he said it was perfect. What shall you call the rose he asked his son, and his son replied Papa Meilland.

Thank you for the comments on the Fragrant Path . I think I'll re-name it to that. I was calling it the Perfumed Path before, but Fragrant Path seems to work better. Thanks for the suggestion, sara.

Just for the record: Not blooming yet along my Fragrant Path are two fragrant beauties: at one end, Oklahoma; at the other end, Double Delight. Those two are "stars" along the Fragrant Path.

Kate

Thank you Kate - Glad you like the name, I inadvertently called in that, I appreciate your subtleness. I love the idea of all those fragrant roses together. I'm going to have to get Oklahoma, I've read so many good things about it that I need to give it a try.

Bellarosa, since you're closer to my zone, I can share the information that Awakening is hardy and healthy in zone 5 in part shade. I've attached a picture of it duking out space with a Snow Queen oakleaf hydrangea. You can see that it gets big, as the fence is 6 feet and these are only a few branches of the well-established Awakening bush. Any climber in part shade is going to flower less and have more disease risk than in full sun, but for me this one is mostly plant and forget (unless I need to climb near the fence - not a happy prospect). Other part-shade climbers that do fine for me include Blossomtime, Compassion, Laguna, Dixieland Linda, Madame Bovary, Clair Matin, and Darlow's Enigma (not really a climber for me but a huge shrub, but he's also in mostly shade).

Lynette, your photo is gorgeous of Awakening and shows the discrepancy between a climber in full sun and mine in part shade. Hrose, one of the reasons we don't post full bush shots of most roses is that most of them just get too big to fit in the shot with any level of detail. Even though I was trying to capture the whole Awakening bush, I was nowhere close - particularly with a climber.

Cynthia

If those of us in high heat, aridity and drought areas were to do that, few others would grow roses right now. I have the occasional really nice bloom on the most wretched looking plants...Kim