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We had 24 KO double red planted in April by a nursery we have dealt with for over 20 years. 3 plants were replaced because they didn't grow. They didn't die either, they just didn't do anything. Several of the remaining plants have very narrow leaves. Some have red leaves and canes but no thorns so I can't confirm RRD. Note neighbors have mature KO hedges with no apparent problems. I have another plant that has neither grown nor died. Any suggestions?

Couldn't attach 2 pics. This is the lazy rose that don't do anything. The whitish stuff is a surficant in Liquid Fence.

The color and form is really striking. Too bad about the light fragrance. You ought to take a look at VIKING QUEEN. It has wonderfully scented voluptuous blooms similar in form to those in your pic. It is also fairly mannerly in its growth habit, has reliable repeat bloom and the foliage is disease resistant. Would be just about perfect if it weren't for the vicious thorns.

Here is a link that might be useful: Viking Queen at HelpMeFind Roses

Great picture. It reminds me of the climber, Rosarium Uetersen.

Oh yes. I've been feeding every 2 weeks.

My Love Song bushes have good repeat bloom, maybe it just needs a little more time to adjust. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Thank you so much for your suggestions.
Also I wanted to say I found the Tom Carrruth breeding for Fragrance very interesting. Thank you for posting a link

Sharon

Jasminerose, double thanks for the great link to Tom Carruth's presentation & the reminder of Jardins de Bagatelle! Delicious in every way, grew it in the late 80's in a colder more exposed garden where it succumbed to cold. Thinking this garden would be more hospitable, would happily welcome it and again inhale that heavenly perfume.

Here is a link that might be useful: Jardins de Bagatelle

Those are growing, healthy and happy roses! Relax and enjoy them!

Thanks Seil. I really did suspect I was overreacting but I needed people who were more experienced than me to give me that reassurance. :)

The plant looks healthy so I think you just need some patience. It likely is working on it's root system. Make sure it is getting enogh water and sun. Is it in a location that it will get at least 6 hours of sun a day?

IâÂÂve had my Falling in Love (grafted on Dr Huey) for about 5 years. Seems like it was slow to repeat its first year, but I canâÂÂt remember if it was slow to grow, as well. It is one of my later roses to bloom each spring, but once it starts, it has flushes that repeat fairly quickly with scattered blooms in between. The bush itself isnâÂÂt very prettyâ¦EXTREMELY thorny and rather awkward growth (mine grows more on one side of the bush than the other)â¦but itâÂÂs not slow to grow. Right now, mine is about 5 ý ft tall and 4 feet wide, and will get a bit bigger by the time our season ends. The blooms themselves are big, beautiful, fragrant, long lasting and plentiful. They last a good while on the bush and in a vaseâ¦one of my very favorites for cutting. I'm in a hot and humid climate, and FIL will blackspot some here...no better or worse than most of my roses...about average blackspot resistance for me.
Here are few pictures of mine..

This is the only bush shot I could find...from early June after days of very heavy rain:

Other than color, the leaves look fine to me. It looks like the red of new growth fading to the chartreuse of chlorosis. Try getting some granular Ironite and sprinkling it around the roses showing this. I saw this a bit on some of my roses with heavy Multiflora background -- Polyanthas and Hybrid Musks, 'Bleu Magenta' and the related 'Purple Skyliner' -- soon after the first set of leaves in Spring, and also following any bouts of heavy rain. It's as though the leaves are forming faster than the roots can suck up iron to get them fully green. I got a big bag of Ironite for lawns and kept it on-hand for whenever I noticed it happen again.

:-)

~Christopher

It's extreme iron deficiency chlorosis where the plant is unable to produce chlorophyll at all. Causes could include high (alkaline) PH, waterlogging, or if the pattern of growth is abnormal, herbicide damage or rose rosette disease. Please provide clear images from the side showing the thorns and how the stems branch--the upper foot or two of the affected stems. Tell us anything that might bear on the possible causes listed above. (Water, use of lime, possible herbicide exposure--even a stray droplet).

Thanks so much guys. I will fertilize today and put my pruning shears under lock and key :)

I'll check back in a few weeks with an update!

Great! And insufficient water could also be an issue, if this is a drier year than you are used to having. In the summer months, roses need either about an inch of rain a week or thorough irrigation. A rose 3' wide could use 4 gallons a week in zone 8 Portland, 5 gallons in zone 8 Charleston, or 6 gallons in zone 8 Dallas.

Please do let us know how it goes.

If you can't find Rose Tone, I've been very happy with Jobe's Organic Knock-Out fertilizer. But as Kate said, "roses aren't really overly fussy." If you find cheaper organic fertilizers with similar ratios (the N-P-K is listed as #-#-# on the bags), they'll work as well. Feed the soil, and the soil will feed the plants.

:-)

~Christopher

Roses are heavy feeders, and if you have not been fertilizing at all this is definitly where you need to start. I use 10-10-10 with very good results so if that's what you have at home use that. If the plants only have a few leaves you definitly don't want to cut any off, so since you didn't prune this year I would just wait til next Feb. to prune. Theres great online videos to show you how to prune if you need some tips. Heres one I like. http://www.youtube.com/user/AshdownRoses

Here is a link that might be useful: Ashdown Roses

That's beautiful!

I wouldn't call Vancouver Island ideal because of all the rain it gets. It certainly is the acid test for roses.

Thank you:)

Lynn

Thank you!

You got a mislabeled rose which is not uncommon for the cheap bagged roses as Christopher said. It could be just about anything that the producer had on hand when they shipped those roses out. With out pictures of it there's no way we can even attempt to ID it.

If you want roses with scent you need to deal with reputable nurseries either locally or on line and choose the one you want.

Also -- 5 ft. tall isn't at all unusual for a big Hybrid Tea Rose. And in hot weather, red roses may very well bloom pink.

Then, too, fragrance is a very individual sense. There are many "fragrant" roses I cannot smell . . . And there are a few NON-fragrant roses which I CAN smell.

Gardens can be full of surprises.