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stir_fryi

seil -- it is a doubel ko rose bought at Costco for $15. They had a ton of them and they were all good size.

I neglected to mention that we dug up and moved that sad little rose over a foot to better space the new one. I just hope I didn't kill it. That would be a whole waste of a year.

I am going to trim it, fertilize, and hope for the best!

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 8:24AM
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farmerduck

You did not kill it. It is tough to kill a knockout. I initially hated mine, and subject them to various abuses (e.g., move in the middle of summer, worst garden real estate). They just hang tough and were barely bothered. Now, I have new appreciation for them and enjoy them a lot more. Other than a little winter kill, yours look fine.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 8:35AM
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NOACCEPTANCE772(8a)

As Kate, I prefer Black Baccara too :)
It has those bouquet flowers :D
It is a prolific bloomer too and has a nice fragrance to it. The fragrance is not noticable but when ou smell it, you'll be amazed :P
I cannot wait till it starts giving me longer stems!

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 8:25PM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

If not black-red, then some other compact hardy roses to grow in central-west Massachusetts??

For roses that if I were growing them in your area, I would NEITHER protect nor pamper and still expect to be fabulous in a couple of years, then please see the list of roses in the post by

the_morden_man

in the thread linked below:

Here is a link that might be useful: most blackspot resistant hybrid tea?

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 12:04AM
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redribbons

Oh, I see they were sold to another company. I know when I ordered from them years ago, they had great customer service. I finally got the roses, they look fine, except one of them had a cane that was ripped so badly, I had to cut it off. I believe I am going to stick with J&P.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 7:24PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

J and P? Jeez they are the worst. They were sold as well. Try Palantine and Pickering and Roses unlimited. Much better

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 11:48PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Yes, if it is something you normally do to good results. The coffee grounds and banana peels contain trace amounts of nutrients (at most). What they mostly add is organic material. They contain little in the way of NPK or micronutrients.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 5:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

What hoov said and besides that those grounds and peels are gonna take a long time to break down and release anything. Feed them something they can take up right away.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 11:41PM
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vettin(z6b Northern VA)

Thank you! Do you know if these are own root or grafted, and if grafted onto what rootstock. Looked at their website and they have a large selection

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 7:47PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Vettin - They are grafted, I'm sure they are on Dr. Huey. I didn't order anything from Witherspoon this year, but I wish I had. Another very good US company is Regan, they have a very good selection, also on Dr. Huey. They ship very healthy plants. Those are the two companies I can think of that carry a good selection of non-patented roses. I'm usually pleased with Edmunds, but their quality wasn't quite as good this year. I received my Roses Unlimited order today, of course theirs are own root. I ordered La France, Royal Highness and Lemon Spice Hybrid Teas, they look healthy. They all had blooms on them. The La France and Lemon Spice smell wonderful, the blooms looked full size.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 10:00PM
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deervssteve(9)

I'm going through the same thing with my HT. The cluster of cages may be affecting air flow. I didn't have the problem last year with rust and PM. I had fewer roses and fewer cages. I sprayed, fertilized and increased my watering. My old garden roses on the slope are clean.

My opinion now is roses are easy, HT roses not so easy.
Deer, fungus, insects.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 4:42PM
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nastarana(5a)

I am constantly amazed by folks who believe in the Rights of Private Property EXCEPT the rights of their adjacent neighbors!

bboy, surely, you should not have to put up with your neighbor's trespass. Might you, for example, be able to make a financial contribution to the fence, combined with plantings up to the 1 foot boundary? If the behavior you describe is typical of the neighbor's general attitude, they cannot have very much public support unless they are related to some locally important family. I would think you could contact the relevant local authorities and find out exactly what your rights and obligations are. Maybe show photos and videos which clearly show the 1' area and the trespass beyond that line. I wonder if erecting some sort of inexpensive marking, even survey poles, along the length of the 1 ft. line might deter the worst of the neighbor's trespass? And I believe we do all have the right to tape and photograph any activity on our own property.

Me, I would probably install a 1' wide walkway along the length of the phantom fence, combined with plantings up to the edge of the walkway and a sign proclaiming in English and Spanish that my yard is organically maintained. If you, for example, are growing roses, you do need to be able to prune and trim from every side, hence the need for the walkway.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 11:04AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I like Nastarana's idea of the walk. Makes it obvious what side is theirs and just what they need to maintain up too.

I am redoing an area and have a similar issue, I am going to leave that 12" and then level my side with a low stack block wall. I have a section that is wider than the 12" behind one of our fenced gardens. I can maintain my side no problem and have gates.

I do have a question for those in the know, if your neighbor has left themselves NO access other than trespassing across all of your property to maintain their fence, do you have to allow or should they purchase their own ladder? The bad neighbors will have their fence fall any old time, surprised it is still standing to be honest, and we have our own chainlink fence on our side. But the over watering towntown group has left themselves no way to access except thru our side I have lots of things planted on our side of the line, most by 2 or more feet so there is work room, just no way to reach it. That fence will probably be the first to fall because of the winds even though it is in better shape. (but only by a little bit)

And is there anything that can be done if they leave the old concrete around where their fence was before? They built one guessing on the wrong line and rebuilt a new one more on their side but I have trip hazards all over on our side of the fence but I think mostly on their side of the property line.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 3:10PM
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joopster

We had a very rough winter so I was surprise that only 1 died, Pink Promise. But I planted her very late, like October and didn't cover her. The rest (Chicago Peace, Love & Peace, Angel Face, Princess Margaret, and Port Sunlight) I covered them with leaves and they are now coming back strong.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 9:18AM
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missmary(6b/7a MD)

So when a rose plant "died" from our bouts of polar vortex this winter, but is coming back with fresh new growth from the roots, is it like starting all over with a new, young rose? I mean in terms of I how big and/or strong it will get this year? Many of my roses were bands in the summer of 2011.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 2:21PM
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henryinct

It is difficult to say anything without knowing the conditions you have for growing roses where you are in India. It is hard enough in the US where conditions vary so much. If you give a complete description of the growing conditions you have beginning with zone, weather and soil and how you have cared for the rose and whether or not you spray and with what then someone might have an idea.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 2:10PM
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deeepak

I should have mentioned environment condition also:

At present my roses remains in sun from 11am-4pm and tempretaure is around 39-40 degrees celsius (ya i know temp remain quite high in my area during summer)
My roses are not in pots and I try to water them thrice in a week or when ever the surface of the soil appears to be dry. I also spray water on the leaves as summers are there.

I have applied only a small amount of granular fertilizer recently that contains (humic acid 39%,ascorbic acid 20%, Amino Acids 9%,Thiamine 2%,Alpha-tocopherol 1% ,basicaly a root stimulant)

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 12:45PM
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seil zone 6b MI

There isn't much left to protect on mine so it should be fairly easy.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 11:01AM
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welltraveled(z5Mid Mich)

Fifty David Austin roses have had to be cut from about 6 feet or higher to the ground.. Huge job and still not sure many of my favorites will survive

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 9:18AM
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kathy9norcal

One possibility is Snowbird. I have seen it as a climber (in southern Cal) but mine is a small bush. Tiny buds open into gorgeous blooms.

Easy to root, blooms like crazy when still a tiny plant. I love this rose.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 8:52PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

where did you get your 'snowbird' Kathy?

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 11:39PM
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bluegirl_gw

Besides all the other good comments & advice:

Dang, this year is awful! I'm nw of SA. Besides all of the freeze damage & drought, this season's flush got fried on the canes with all the hot dry winds. I had a couple of weeks of gorgeous blooms, then the temps soared into the 90s before the canes had time to harden up.

Oh, well, I snagged 30 bags of oak leaves, mulched the heck out of everything & have fingers crossed for rain the next couple of days.

Really, things have been rough for plants all over the past couple of years & most especially so for young plants. I'm gonna assume things can only improve, with watering & mulch.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 9:31PM
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bluegirl_gw

removed double post

This post was edited by bluegirl on Wed, May 7, 14 at 21:34

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 9:33PM
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bonsaimaster1

i love the simsalabim rose beth. Would you consider selling it or rooting a cutting for me?

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 3:04PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

WRT to Caramella: not sure what you consider "continuous". I get 3 - 4 flushes a year. I make sure to give it an all over haircut after each bloom cycle. As the blooms have a lot of petals, it does not rebloom as fast as Blushing knock Out. I suppose that some creative pruning could provide the appearance of continuous bloom, but I haven't made the attempt to try.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 7:47PM
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redribbons

Thanks Hoov. I have lost so many rose tags. I looked at those after they bloomed, and thought they were Peace. I am going to start putting my own garden markers beside all my roses, so I will know what they are when I loose the original tags.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 7:28PM
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campv

They look like my peace roses

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 7:38PM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

Roses Unlimited sells potted roses as we know.

The concern here is only about bare roots. Although I've never ordered freshly dug bare root roses, there are some specialty nurseries that dig and ship bare root plants - usually shrubs and trees, on demand. I would NOT advise extended soaking for them.

The extended soaking discussed above applies specifically to roses that were dug in the fall and kept in cold storage for spring shipment which is the industry norm.

Freshly dug or potted roses, I (personally) would schedule for delivery near the last perennial frost date.

An exception to all of this would be roses that were greenhouse grown - like Roses Unlimited. These I would schedule nearer the last ANNUAL frost date.

This post was edited by sandandsun on Tue, Mar 25, 14 at 15:01

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 2:56PM
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emrogers

So I ordered a Day Breaker rose from spring hill nurseries and received it today but bare root! I'm new at gardening and just have no clue what to do with it. So I guess from all the reading I've done I'll soak it to the graft for 24 hrs then is it ready to be planted outside I'm the ground? We're already warm here in Dallas with the temps getting in the 90s by Friday so not sure if it's ok to plant or not and if so is there anything special I need to do to it? I've read a few of you guys mentioning mounding; what is that?
Thanks and sorry for the ignorance
Elce

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 7:09PM
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