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Hi Cynthia,
I don't really know where one could find Orchard's Pride these days. It doesn't have a source listed on HMF, but it does apparently go under the alternate name Miss Ashley which I didn't know.
My mom has a standard of it in her front yard that she bought at least 4-5 years ago at a hardware chain called 'Orchard Supply Hardware,' I think the rose was named 'Orchard's Pride' to commemorate some anniversary of the hardware chain OSH, but I could be mistaken. I saw a shrub of it available at an OSH almost 2 years ago, but I haven't seen it anywhere in So Cal since.
Jaimes Coiner, the breeder, sells to places like Home Depot, OSH, and others from his wholesale nursery, Coiner Nursery. He breeds his own roses as well as selling older, out of patent floribundas, grandis, and HTs. I don't know if any nurseries carry it that ship, but it could be worth contacting Coiner Nursery if it's a variety that you can't live without. I doubt that, but it is lovely! It has a scent that isn't strong in it's quantity, but to my nose is just perfectly light, sweet, and vaguely citrusy.
Jay
Royal Sunset is a very beautiful climber but it is an old one and has some of the older climbers problems. It is, as said, hardy but unless pruned, it will grow in all directions. The flowers will then not be as full and the leaves sparse. To get the best out of this beauty, it needs to be pruned hard every year to make it grow as a large shrub shape which is normal for it. Keep the nitrogen low so it will put it's strength into flowers not long growth. Then this is what you will see.
Kittymoonbeam,
Good question....Crystal Palace is a mini flora. I just got it this spring. Based on the size of the bloom, I would think it was a floribunda. It will be interesting to see how big it will be this fall. Beautiful bloom that I would love to have in HT size.
Peter, I had Pink Peace many years ago and it died off one winter. This is the one I bought this spring to replace it with.
Yes, it is blooming now. In Michigan it's the height of rose season and most of my roses are blooming. Things are doing pretty well considering the long cold spring we had.
As far as I can tell I do not have spider mites on any of my roses. I do have some pretty big spiders that like to make webs between the pots though. I don't bother much with them because they help keep a lot of the bad bug populations down. But I don't see any in that picture.
If the leaf is still green, even though it has holes in it, it is still capable of feeding the plant so you can leave those. If there's nothing left but a skeleton you can remove those since there isn't enough left to do any good really. Anything that has begun to yellow can be removed because it's no longer functioning. Clean up anything on the ground to keep things neat but it doesn't make much difference as far as preventing diseases. When you dead head you can prune a little deeper to take off some of the damaged areas. The plant should begin to regrow quickly at that time anyway.
What Seil said. Anything green continues feeding and shading the plant. A rose bush (like most other plants) is the perfect "commune". As long as any part contributes at least as much as it requires and benefits the entire organism, the plant retains it. Once any part requires more resources than it provides, the plant sheds it. Thinking of the entire this way should also make it easier when thinking of "blind growth", those shoots which form leaves but no flowers. Every leaf feeds the plant. If the plant forms leaves but no flowers, doesn't it stand to reason it's because the plant needs FOOD or shade, rather than attempts to reproduce? Kim
John Davis. It will be tip hardy for you in your zone and it is very nearly thornless. In addition, it wants to grow more as a large mounding shrub that wants to be wider than tall, although it can be tied up to a support for greater height if desired. Once established, it should have little issue covering the 8-10ft area of fenceline.
Thanks rross.
It not sunny anymore here for the last 3 weeks. I hope this helps my rose.
I was worried about the fused leaflets.... Hope its not some virus! Do you see it with Bellaroma/ Love & peace? I've heard of blind shoots with these 2 roses... but fused leaflets???? And many of them, on different branches!!! I wonder what that means.
I have 3 cl pinkies around my arbor and at least one is in partial shade. They were planted this past spring and have taken off like gang busters. I am amazed at how fast thy have grown, they were in one gallon containers when planted and now are getting close to six feet tall, seems like I am constantly tying a new cane that sprouted up overnight. So far I have had only one big flush of blooms but I figure that's because it's so busy growing. It's supposed to bloom non stop once it's established. Good luck on picking a climber, I really am impressed with cl pinkies vigorous growth and so far have no complaints.
I have a fence with quite a few climbers on it at the edge of my part shade garden, and some of those are worth a try. On the lighter pink side are Blossomtime and Compassion, medium pink would be Madame Bovary, and dark pink so far are Laguna and Cherryade. In another part of my yard, Nahema is reasonably happy in part shade and the blooms are to die for - medium pink and Austin-like full blooms. Clair Matin also seems to like part shade, but she's at most a semi-double. If you want to see at least a few of these in action, I have a thread about my "back 40" circulating with the first picture showing the shade climbers.
As for hybrid musks, they do well in shade and part shade, and Lavender Lassie is by far the best of them for large fluffy blooms. Many of them are pink, and they might climb in your zone - Heavenly Pink is a white/light pink variation as the flowers fade, and Gartendirektor Otto Linne and Excellenz von Schubert are a more bright pink color. They seem to want to climb and all bloom at least off and on for me all season. Wilhelm is a darker pinkish red, but I have mine as a large 6-7 foot shrub - I don't know if it would climb. Awakening definitely climbs, but it tends to go white as it fades and you already have its counterpart New Dawn.
Hope this helps!
Cynthia
How wonderful! A mow and blow guy stepped on a band of Belle Epoque about two months ago that I had planted in the ground for my mom in January. I noticed some shoots popping up from that spot a couple weeks ago. Since no other roses -especially grafted roses- have been in that spot before or are close enough to be a sucker, I assume it is Belle Epoque showing new signs of life. There's always a slight glimmer of hope with roses!
Jay
Thats so great!
Had a similar thing happen w/ me with my new john davis rose this summer, dog stepped on it and broke the cane clean off to the ground. I dug it up and potted. It's already set up new growth from the roots. I am so happy and glad yours survived! Yay for strong rose babies. :o)
Take a look at Ascot, which is highly perfumed dark red. The best thing about the bloom is not "classically" highcentered (which does not appeal to me for purely random personal preference) and is cabage-like. The bush (mine on multiflora rootstock) is extremely vigorous, but does get blackspot. The growth in its two year residence in my garden shows it is mixture of small climber, ht and shrub, which, to me, makes it more interesting. It is cold hardy here in Essex County.
Nadadoll posted spectacular Ascot photos. She faces different disease pressure than us, but the pictures show the potential of this rose.
The only other red HT I have experience growing is Firefighter. I cannot seem to be able to get it going. Still a one cane dwarf after two seasons. Other than not cold hardy here, it ought to be a good HT here, at least on paper.
The only Big Fun rose I see listed at HMF is an orange florist rose, not yellow. It's not available anywhere either.