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I agree, it looks normal. On the Antiques forum, someone asked about their 'Crepuscule' and I wrote a post about how my 'Jaune Desprez' grew last year from a similar-looking band. Generally, when you receive an own-root band, the growth it has is what you'd see on the pruned-off-for-cuttings part of a mature plant -- so the thinner outer stems. These "baby canes" will feed the plant, and when the roots have enough reserves, a stouter cane will emerge that's more typical of "from the ground" substance. You may find (as I have, with my bands from last year) that the original growth it had when you received it will gradually fade away as the rose continues to push thick new canes. For many of mine, I simply pruned them off this year if I felt there were enough new shoots coming from the base -- they were flopping on the ground by now, anyway.

:-)

~Christopher

Here is a link that might be useful: What is up with this Crepuscule I received?

Awesome! That gives me so much relief! I will take some deep breaths and relax...until the next thing worries me, haha!

I'll keep in mind what you said, Aquaeyes, and not freak out if that happens to my bands.

I really appreciate this forum and everyone on it! Thank you so much guys!

Just drop-dead gorgeous! How does this one overwinter for you, Seil? I've heard Moonstone is fussy, but it obviously likes you and your care very much.

Cynthia

Sorry to hear it's winter fussy, Cynthia. I just got it this spring so I hope it does like my winter protection! I know there are many people locally that grow it but mine is potted, not in the ground, so I hope it's going to be a survivor.

You're welcome Gean. Glad I could help clear it up. Kim

Mylab123, I realize this is an old thread, but how is your Zepphie now? Did you end up keeping this climber?

International Herald Tribune.

Paprika! low growing, orange and yellow, single or semi single, super hardy and It does fine in zone 8b :)http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.172938

This post was edited by seeingreen on Sun, Jul 13, 14 at 20:08

Are they actually eating the roses? They look rather like predatory wasps which might be eating other small bugs, in which case they might be your friends.

strangalia famelica?? It appears to be a pollinator.

Here is a link that might be useful: google search

And, it makes healthy, vigorous babies with a wide variety of pollen. For anyone considering trying their hand at pollen pimping, this is a good one to start playing with. Kim

Yes, I had that one in a pot. Tons of blooms. Really nice plant - I gave it away once I found my passion for heavily scented roses. :)

Yours looks great!!
Carol

Someone has a Julia Child about 2 blocks from us.
I just looked at it today and the leaves look good so far.
Last year in late August I noticed it had a lot of BS and was retaining 1/2 or better of its leaves.

I have my JC for four years now, and it has been an under-performer: although not the worst offender, it blackspots heavily, and, because it is not the most vigorous bush, it remains quite small in size (probably due to blackspotting). I know it can be a spetacular rose, but haven't figured out how to keep it happy without spray.

Here's an Ascot report from another climate. I have to admit that after reading this and some other discussion, I was second guessing my order of Ascot this spring.

I am thrilled to say that Ascot loves New England. Mine is grafted on Multiflora from Palatine. So far it's a medium-tall, well shaped plant with many, many blooms. I'd describe the habit as more shrub like than Hybrid Tea. First flush is nearly over now, and new buds are forming. Foliage is plentiful and healthy (I do spray for BS).

In my garden where everything that's supposed to be red or purple is pink, Ascot is a standout red. It's on the magenta side of the spectrum but the color stays true and doesn't lighten. The blooms have even held up pretty well to rain, and we've had plenty.

Thank you nanadoll for inspiring my choice. I just may get a couple more for my front yard to replace a certain under-performing David Austin!

Ratdogheads: I was thinking the SAME THOUGHT TODAY:
you said " everything that's supposed to be red or purple is pink, Ascot is a standout red".
I've been disappointed in so many red roses but Ascot is a great one!
Glad it is doing well for you.
Slow on the 2nd flushâ¦seems to be building up size now. The first flush lasted almost 2 months.
Susan

No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night!
Sorry, couldn't resist.

I am curious as to what yur question is. I spent a large part of my Army Reserve career around Dentists in a Dental Unit- I fixed trucks, generators and equipment- not people.

I am a Dentist practicing in Delray Beach, Florida!

Here is a link that might be useful: Delray Beach Dentist

Eeewww! Another reason why I don't care for mulching.

I wish I didn't have to mulch, but I do. I am trying to grow ground cover over a lot of area so I can cut down on mulching. But usually the mulch (even with the stinky fungus) is great for the soil.

You could try painting the infected areas with 3 % drugstore hydrogen peroxide. In addition to possibly actually killing whatever it is, it should help booster the plant's immune system.

Aspirin tablets placed in the ground may also help with the immune system.

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0610421011109.html

Here is a link that might be useful: aspirin thread

Thank you everyone. Since I've already cut it down to the crown I'll be waiting to see what grows back. Will call extension Monday. My guess is that a sample of a rose bush would need to be sent to the University of Illinois.

I'm glad I sparked interest in the little gem! I think it should be more widely grown.

Yes, I grow all my minis in pots and they do great. If you're in a cold zone though you'll need to have a good way to winter protect them.

I'm in zone 8 in East Texas so we don't have really harsh winters. We do get below freezing but not a lot and it's easy to move pots in the garage during those times it does freeze. Seril I'm glad you did post that picture! It's funny how one certain rose can capture your heart thru a picture.

Just a note to Marty's caution: It is not just Knockout roses that can get Rose Rosette Disease (RRD). Just about any rose can get it (in fact, I'd guess ALL roses can get it).

Knock Out Roses are NOT more susceptible to RRD than any other rose.

Keep an eye out and if your rose starts growing really ugly witch's broom type growth or something like that, take a pic and show it here. We can probably help you identify whether or not it is likely to be RRD. No point going into a panic over everything that can happen to a rose and assuming it is RRD. Make sure it is diagnosed correctly first. If it is RRD, then, yes--you will probably have to destroy the plant as Marty says.

I have lost about 1 rose per year to RRD for the past several years. None of the lost roses was a Knock Out.

Kate

The following was stated: "Just a note to Marty's caution: It is not just Knockout roses that can get Rose Rosette Disease (RRD). Just about any rose can get it (in fact, I'd guess ALL roses can get it).
Knock Out Roses are NOT more susceptible to RRD than any other rose. "

H.Kuska comment: The above may be correct, but it also may not be correct. Controlled research is needed. One way that it may not be correct is if a certain type of rose all have another virus. The first virus may make it easier for the rose rosette virus to overcome the immune system. This is a quote from research titled:
"Fate of artificial microRNA-mediated resistance to plant 1 viruses in mixed infections"

"However, when the plants were pre-infected with these viruses, TuMV was able to co31 infect 12-4 plants pre-infected with TRV, CaMV, and, particularly, with CMV. So, pre32 infection by another virus jeopardizes the amiRNA-mediated resistance to TuMV."
http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/93508/1/Martinezetal%20Phytopathology.pdf
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Is there any evidence to suggest that this occurs with successful rose rosette infections?
Yes, there is: 1) Early on infected multiflora rose was found to also be infected by a cryptic virus (H.Kuska comment: which is transferred through the seeds).
http://www.sipav.org/main/jpp/index.php/jpp/article/view/664/451
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2) Recently rose rosette infected roses were reported to also be infected by Blackberry chlorotic ringspot virus (BCRV). See the following quote: "The case of Blackberry chlorotic ringspot virus (BCRV) is of particular interest because the virus has been found to be an integral part of blackberry yellow vein disease and is widespread in rose plants affected by rose rosette disease." (H.Kuska comment: BCRV is also transferred through seeds.)
http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-08-13-0866-RE

Seil, a beautiful bloom! Do they last? Any disease problems? BS? Is it a producer? Love the shape and color of the bloom. Reminds me do Autumn Splendor.

Thanks!

No disease so far. The bloom lasted a couple of days but like I said I missed the beginning some how.

Ky, I have my first Autumn Splendor about to open so I'll be able to compare them!