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amandahugg(SS19 CA)

Be prepared for Laguna & Rozanna to be monstrous growers that only bloom in spring. Many of the Kordes roses will grow out of bounds in your 9b climate.

    Bookmark   November 28, 2013 at 9:47PM
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andreark

Thanks Amanda. I will steer clear of those 2. I don't need very large plants.

andrea

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 1:44PM
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chilliwin(EU DK 7)

hoovb and seil, thank you for the advice.

Caelian

    Bookmark   November 24, 2013 at 12:44PM
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kittymoonbeam

That's a pretty rose. You can get some good compost and put that down in the spring. Some people here like to push straw around the plants after the ground freezes but before the snow piles up around the stems to save more green wood for spring.

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 8:56AM
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roseseek

Thank you! And to all the other forum members, I hope your holiday was even better than you hoped! Kim

    Bookmark   November 28, 2013 at 10:17PM
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kittymoonbeam

Those Thanksgiving roses look like beautiful sunset colors. Beth is a true rose lover because she loves them all, big and small, in all the colors. I did find one Charlotte, which I put in a bud vase and the yellow was cheerful.

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 8:47AM
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Jim_in_AV

Well, this is a first year rose that I purchased from Hortico. Some of you know, when you get roses from Hortico and open the package, you say, "What are these twigs?" For whatever reason, these roses flourish in my awful desert soil. Old Fragrance (now 3 years old) was 7 feet tall this season. Back to CDG, it had 10 blossoms this season with good repeat and okay fragrance. I expect a better scent next season but, this being the desert, roses smell nothing like they did when I lived on the East Coast. On the plus side, no BS here as there is little humidity. I would heartily recommend this rose if you want a stunning lavender.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 6:49PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oooh!! Sounds lovely. Hopefully the fragrance will improve as the rose bush matures.
Carol

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 2:22AM
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NeptuneFarewell, Neptune. Until next year, of course!
Posted by Jim_in_AV November 27, 2013
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

I love my Neptune too - however it's not as beautiful as THAT rose!!! Well done!!
Carol

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 1:28PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely! I need to get this rose.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 5:29PM
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kstrong(10 So Cal)

Getting rid of roses is really easy for me. Take the pot, bag or just a pile of dirt laying on a black garbage bag, put it at the street end of the driveway, and a sign that says "free rose bush" It won't be there ten minutes later.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 2:27PM
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view1ny NY 6-7

kstrong, great idea. I love it. It won't hurt as much if I know it went to a good home.

I'm already looking thru catalogs to figure out what to order to take the place of the discards. Of course if my cuttings all take, I'll have to leave room for them as well but probably have nothing to worry about since I've never successfully rooted a cutting.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 4:41PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I had a soil test done and it showed our soil already was rich in most nutrients so I usually just top dress with wood mulch & cow manure once a year or every other year.
Now I do have slight Nitrogen problems which I correct with some Alfalfa Meal when needed...

So its hard to tell about different soils unless a soil test is done.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 2:59PM
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henryinct

Jim, I define good soil as rich dark humus at least one foot deep and eventually up to two feet deep. You can't get this unless you make it and once you do you don't need to make soil tests.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 4:14PM
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kittymoonbeam

Happy Birthday Boris and Natasha!

Thanks Diane for the help about the size of the bush. I am going to try to get mine to own root in a 15 gallon can. Fun to get a bareroot after buying bands recently. I loved the old days when the nursery got the Weeks rose shipment in and we sorted them and put them in long rows in the shadehouse.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 2:40AM
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everyrose(z7-8 pnw)

Hoovb--I just got my Ascot from Palatine too! Along with 8 other roses. They all look to be great plants with parsnip like roots.

Diane--Thanks on the size of Ascot. Helpmefind has it as being 0.0065' to 1" high! I figured it would be a small rose (but not that small!) maybe 2 to 3 feet high. I will be sure to give it plenty of room now.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 11:28AM
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henry_kuska

"The virus used in this study was obtained from naturally
infected plants of Rosa rugosa âÂÂCharles AlbanelâÂÂ."

This is all that I could find in the full paper. It does refer to a 2011 paper:

  1. Lockhart B, Zlesak D, Fetzer J (2011) Identification and partial characterization of six new viruses of cultivated roses in the USA.
    Acta Hortic 901:139��"147
    Since the 2011 paper has Jodi Fetzer's of the New York Botanical Garden name as one of the authors, perhaps the sample came from there. Please notice that this is only a "PERHAPS".

"Recently, we described a virus with spherical particles [8] associated with one of several new foliar diseases of rose. The virus was named Rosa rugosa leaf distortion virus (RrLDV) after the typical symptoms associated with infection by this virus. Both the disease and the virus were graft transmitted from diseased to healthy R. rugosa, suggesting that RrLDV is likely the causal agent of the disease (our unpublished results). The objectives of this study were to characterize the RrLDV genome and
determine its taxonomic and phylogenetic relationship to
known viruses."
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H.Kuska comment; I am frustrated that so many of these individual papers offer so little information of usefullness to the average rose grower. Possibly the editors pressure the authors to be as consise as possible.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 3:39PM
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henry_kuska

Dave Zlesak has commented on a future publication that appears to be more consumer orientated.

http://www.rosebreeders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54298

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 7:47PM
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nicholas_delo

Understood about the not pruning now. I was planning on spring for maintenance, as this is normally when I prune my roses.

I was just looking at them the other day as was thinking "hmmmm I wonder what to with them this spring." And so, I posted the question.

Thanks for all the replies!

    Bookmark   November 24, 2013 at 8:26AM
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kittymoonbeam

I agree with the feed and water the first year before heavy pruning in later years. Enjoy your plants. Iceberg should get a So. CA flower special award. It has a huge popularity here.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 6:58PM
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pat_bamaz7

I absolutely love that bug!!! Thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 10:33AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Hopefully thats a good insect...lol
Cool item! :-)

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 11:00AM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Obviously, now isn't ideal planting time, particularly if the ground is starting to freeze like ours and it's hard to dig the holes. If you have to plant a rose this late in the season, at least it's a bare root that's dormant and hopefully can just stay dormant during the winter. In essence, you're keeping them in the deep cold condition that Palatine had them in before shipping. Mounding some soil around them helps protect the graft, and make sure you plant that graft (the knobby part with the canes growing from it) at least 2-4" below the natural soil level.

In future years, you'll have less hassle if you request that the roses be delivered in spring. Bareroot roses should be planted in whatever is early spring in your zone, as the crocus and early daffodils are blooming, if not before. For me, that's early April or in a good year, late March.

Cynthia

    Bookmark   November 22, 2013 at 4:04PM
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susan4952(5)

Agree with Cynthia. 100 percent as usual.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 12:11AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Come on, camp--tell us how you really feel, why don't you?

LOL

Kate

    Bookmark   November 25, 2013 at 6:35PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

LOL
Okay, you win. :)
Carol

    Bookmark   November 25, 2013 at 9:28PM
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