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view1ny NY 6-7

Carol, hang in there. It wasn't that long ago that we had hail here in Brooklyn. I promise you that spring is on the way.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 5:50PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Carol, how many bloom cycles do you usually get per growing season? Good luck with your new ones.What did you get? Here's you something to laugh at: today I finally broke down and bought another Blue Girl! The bush looked sooo good... I sp'd 2 last year...just love those stingy blooms.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 7:24PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Perhaps a pet cougar......

Love your sense of humor.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 12:50PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

obviously waiting for you to 'Burp Her' after dining out!

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 5:22PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I don't think it's available in N. Amer. at all. Looks lovely!

Here is a link that might be useful: Amandine Chanel at HMF

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 3:00PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I can't think of anything that would get more black spot than Angel Face!

If you can find it I'd recommend Love Song. It had very good health for me last season and bloomed it's head off!

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 2:56PM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Andreark,
I planted a Munstead Wood from Austin, bare-root, this year and had a short but lovely flush. I mean short -- we're talking two weeks.
I talked to a gal who gave a talk on Austins this past weekend at Otto & Sons Rose Days,and she said, "Munstead Wood is not a particularly vigorous rose." I don't mind if the bush stays small -- it's supposed to, and besides it's in a container -- but I sure would like more flowers.
Darcey Bussell, which I bought in a 3-gallon, has been blooming for 3 weeks with no sign of stopping, and its fragrance is almost as nice as Munstead's.
Oh and by the way, my Falstaffs (I have 2) haven't flowered once this year. Not once. They do get partial afternoon shade -- are yours in full sun?
Thanks,
Sylvia

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 10:12PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Andrea--so happy to hear that Munstead Wood came through. Although the pics of the lighter colored MWs were quite attractive, let's face it--what we really adore about MW is its dark moody but glowing shades. It will be interesting to hear whether other owners of MW who complained about lighter initial colors on it discovered the darker shades also as the rose matured.

My MW, planted in the garden, is not a weakling, but in fact quite vigorous for a shorter plant--and was quite prolific last summer. Hasn't bloomed yet this year--just a couple blooms on Home Run so far.

Enjoy your MW--one of the loveliest Austins in my garden and I hope in yours.

Kate

This post was edited by dublinbay on Fri, May 2, 14 at 22:12

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 2:15PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Or use some organic Plant-Tone or Rose-Tone (available at HD)--it has some alfalfa in it (may have some Epsom salts in it too--I don't remember right off hand). Spread out to the drip line, but not too close to the base. Water in well with a strong spray of water and cover with mulch.

Don't know about where you live, but in my area, you have to buy a 50 lb bag if you want alfalfa--so I started using the --Tone fertilizers instead since they have some alfalfa in them. Not a lot, but some.

I do believe alfalfa promotes basal break growth.

Kate

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 1:25PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Kate - for what it's worth, if you ever want to give something a shot of pure alfalfa and want a smaller quantity, go to the small animal section of a pet store. In the bags of Timothy Hay for guinea pig/rabbits, there will also be small bags of Alfalfa hay. They run about $7-8, which is relatively reasonable for adding alfalfa to small gardens. I'd estimate those bags could supplement 7-10 roses depending on dosage.

Of course if the "tones" work for you, you're getting the alfalfa and a lot of other good stuff. Just wanted to clarify some options.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 1:30PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

If you want a virused 'Lemon Spice' you can have mine. Email me if you want it.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 11:35PM
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Need2SeeGreen(10 (SoCal))

That's very kind of you.

Let me research whether I can de-virus it, and get back to you.

Though I suppose if it were simple, you'd have done it already?

No matter, I enjoy learning, and actually my friend has a tree rose that has a virus and I've been meaning to look into it. I think it is the mosaic virus (if that's a virus name).

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 12:21PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I have no info on the rose, but was going to tell you that I made decorative picket fences next to the walk-ways to hide a hand rail on. Mom can use to steady herself and it looks like a picket fence. I put the rail for the pickets on the back of the post and then put the handrail on the front of the post. When mom fussed she did not need the handrail, I said they were for her friend _________ who was unsteady on her feet :) It helps to keep mom out of that planter bed too (helps because she is determined to get exactly where she should least be to "pull a weed" Oddly she does not pull the weeds close to the walk)

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 9:14PM
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pat_bamaz7

Nancy,
I'm not familiar with OSO Happy Smoothie, but I've grown OSO Easy Paprika for several years. My Paprika bushes have been carefree and completely disease free without spraying here where even knockouts are bad to blackspot. Our humidity level hovers in the 90s and temps average in the mid 90s throughout the summer months, but these bushes never shut down. They provide constant color spring through fall and ask nothing in exchange. The Paprikas are thorny, but they are not marketed as thornless. I wouldnâÂÂt think OSO Happy Smoothie would be advertised as thornless if it wasnâÂÂt at least very nearly so, and I would assume Smoothie to have similar disease resistance and bloom power as the others in the OSO series. I only have personal experience with Paprika, but have seen some of the others grown locally, and they seem to be winners, too. I also grow Apricot Drift and Coral Drift. They are carefree, very disease resistant and constant bloomers, as well, but both do have thorns (Coral is very thorny; Apricot doesnâÂÂt have many thorns, but enough to prick you if not careful). The Drift roses stay much shorter in my climate than the Paprika bushes (and other OSOs that IâÂÂve seen). I prune back my Paprikas each winter to keep them at about 3 feet X 3 feet, but the Drift roses never get over 2 to 3 feet in height (and at least 3 ft wide) here without any pruning. Both the Drifts and the Paprikas will look better and give you a greater quantity of blooms with some deadheading, but both will continue to flower reasonably even if you donâÂÂt. I donâÂÂt think you could go wrong with any from either series as far as ease of care, but I'm not sure on the thornless part. HereâÂÂs a picture of Paprika this weekâ¦loaded with buds and some blooms beginning to open:

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 12:05PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Without a picture it would be hard to say for sure but, yes, there are roses that spread called ground cover roses. More likely though is that this is one of the miniature roses they use for these "gift" roses. All roses grow in their own way and yours just likes to grow sideways instead of up. If it is healthy and blooming I wouldn't worry about it.

You can keep it in the pot if you wish but it would probably be happier in the ground. Roses are always happiest outside in the ground.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2014 at 9:01AM
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PIcked a fewJust Joey, Peace, PPJ II.
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seil zone 6b MI

They're lovely, Steve!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 7:21PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

Beautiful deer food!
Ouch!I knew the feeling till we fenced 11' high.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 8:31PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Yes, I've done that! I had a rose I got late one season and I put it in a spot I don't check as often and the next spring I found this rose I had no idea I had! Good thing it came with a label or I wouldn't have had any idea what rose it was, lol.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 7:25PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

I forget some all the time. Bloodhound tore up the paint sticks I had written on. She had such a good time!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 8:29PM
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Seeingreen

I don't know if there is a way to set up any shade for them, just till they perk back up? It genuinely works for roses that need to establish or reestablish their root systems.....but it's so toasty where you are the shade may not help all that much : /

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 8:04PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

Turn over some lawn chairs. Maybe drape a sheet over them.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 8:27PM
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redribbons

Wow, your rose got big, fast. What is your secret :) I have a chrysler imperial, that I planted about 14 years ago. It is one of the first roses I ever planted. I love it. But, half of the canes died over the winter. I kept her though.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 5:42PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It's doing very well and is lovely!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 7:26PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Wait. It hasn't been very warm (we're still at least 10 degrees below average) for very long yet and I think it's too soon to give up hope. The soil hasn't warmed up very much. I don't know how it's been in KY but we haven't had all that much sun either. Be patient.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 7:20PM
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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

Diane, she is in Monmouth County :) Over in Eatontown. Small world!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 3:11PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Oh! I used to live there, I'm 5 miles north now.

The Jersey Shore RS helps with a no spray garden (no climbers) in Eatontown, it is on Rt. 35 just south of the old Fort Monmouth. Also, if she is up to it, our next meeting is 5/31 @ 1:00 at Kensington Assisted Living off of Shrewsbury Ave, there will be quite a few CRs there to answer questions.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2014 at 4:04PM
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