22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
That's very kind of you.
Let me research whether I can de-virus it, and get back to you.
Though I suppose if it were simple, you'd have done it already?
No matter, I enjoy learning, and actually my friend has a tree rose that has a virus and I've been meaning to look into it. I think it is the mosaic virus (if that's a virus name).
I have no info on the rose, but was going to tell you that I made decorative picket fences next to the walk-ways to hide a hand rail on. Mom can use to steady herself and it looks like a picket fence. I put the rail for the pickets on the back of the post and then put the handrail on the front of the post. When mom fussed she did not need the handrail, I said they were for her friend _________ who was unsteady on her feet :) It helps to keep mom out of that planter bed too (helps because she is determined to get exactly where she should least be to "pull a weed" Oddly she does not pull the weeds close to the walk)
Nancy,
I'm not familiar with OSO Happy Smoothie, but I've grown OSO Easy Paprika for several years. My Paprika bushes have been carefree and completely disease free without spraying here where even knockouts are bad to blackspot. Our humidity level hovers in the 90s and temps average in the mid 90s throughout the summer months, but these bushes never shut down. They provide constant color spring through fall and ask nothing in exchange. The Paprikas are thorny, but they are not marketed as thornless. I wouldnâÂÂt think OSO Happy Smoothie would be advertised as thornless if it wasnâÂÂt at least very nearly so, and I would assume Smoothie to have similar disease resistance and bloom power as the others in the OSO series. I only have personal experience with Paprika, but have seen some of the others grown locally, and they seem to be winners, too. I also grow Apricot Drift and Coral Drift. They are carefree, very disease resistant and constant bloomers, as well, but both do have thorns (Coral is very thorny; Apricot doesnâÂÂt have many thorns, but enough to prick you if not careful). The Drift roses stay much shorter in my climate than the Paprika bushes (and other OSOs that IâÂÂve seen). I prune back my Paprikas each winter to keep them at about 3 feet X 3 feet, but the Drift roses never get over 2 to 3 feet in height (and at least 3 ft wide) here without any pruning. Both the Drifts and the Paprikas will look better and give you a greater quantity of blooms with some deadheading, but both will continue to flower reasonably even if you donâÂÂt. I donâÂÂt think you could go wrong with any from either series as far as ease of care, but I'm not sure on the thornless part. HereâÂÂs a picture of Paprika this weekâ¦loaded with buds and some blooms beginning to open:
Without a picture it would be hard to say for sure but, yes, there are roses that spread called ground cover roses. More likely though is that this is one of the miniature roses they use for these "gift" roses. All roses grow in their own way and yours just likes to grow sideways instead of up. If it is healthy and blooming I wouldn't worry about it.
You can keep it in the pot if you wish but it would probably be happier in the ground. Roses are always happiest outside in the ground.
I don't know if there is a way to set up any shade for them, just till they perk back up? It genuinely works for roses that need to establish or reestablish their root systems.....but it's so toasty where you are the shade may not help all that much : /
Wait. It hasn't been very warm (we're still at least 10 degrees below average) for very long yet and I think it's too soon to give up hope. The soil hasn't warmed up very much. I don't know how it's been in KY but we haven't had all that much sun either. Be patient.
Oh! I used to live there, I'm 5 miles north now.
The Jersey Shore RS helps with a no spray garden (no climbers) in Eatontown, it is on Rt. 35 just south of the old Fort Monmouth. Also, if she is up to it, our next meeting is 5/31 @ 1:00 at Kensington Assisted Living off of Shrewsbury Ave, there will be quite a few CRs there to answer questions.
What a fun idea! If you don't like the idea of minifloras, there's always Kentucky Derby, a reasonably hardy red HT that I think Rogue Valley sells. There's also Elvis and Miss Elvis that I haven't tried that are Edwards HTs, available from Roseland. You have a lot of music related options for hardy easy care roses from Buck - some that have thrived with no BS to speak of in my zone 4 pocket include Pearlie Mae (named for Minnie Pearl), Mountain Music, and Folksinger. Allamand Ho and Country Dancer would also be good options from Buck with music/Nashville connections.
Minis and minifloras are pretty easy to winter protect if you want to go that route - Blue Suede Shoes is one I noted, and there are probably other options from other Elvis songs. "Falling in Love" (with you) is one that comes to mind that is pretty hardy for me.
Have fun and let us know what you decide!
Cynthia
Thanks for the ideas. I might take my chances on Kentucky Derby, it is out of my zone, but will definitely get Zepharine Drouhin (get it a "Bourbon" rose). I am also looking at mountain music, duet, tootsie (the name of a bar in Nashville we went to) or Dolly's forever rose. In my search, I came up with some for past trips: Golden Buddha for the time I spent in India, Seattle Sunrise where my son now lives, and Belle Epoque which is the name of the hotel we stayed in Venice last year.
Angel Face is wonderful here in SoCal but it was not vigorous or hardy enough for Z6b CT. Almost everything would get denuded by BS back in CT so the answer for me was to spray at least every other week with BannerMaxx. Iceberg also gets BS but it is amazingly vigorous and way hardy enough for your zone. Its' biggest advantage here in SoCal is that it stands up to heat and dry conditions so you see it everywhere here. I think it must be the state flower of California.
Sometimes the Green Velvet boxwood that I use are available at Home Depot for $5+ dollars a gallon. My edging has perennials (in the picture becky daisies and geranium) between the boxwood and the rose. We also get 50+ inches of rain a year so that keeps everyone happy and in their place too!
eastTXmeg, the trellis are made from a piece of found scrap metal that I had a metal guy put side rails on--so not available anywhere...
Thanks Diane! We have plenty of water now - it has been raining for 3 days. Now we need some sun and warmer temps. It was supposed to be in the lower 70's today, never got past 55....I'll just wait until it blooms to start fertilizing. I have some water soluable ferts - do you think that would be ok to use - maybe 1/2 strength?
Lori
The Bayer pellets or the drench don't really do a good job on blackspot. At least not here in Georgia :) You are better off using separate products. Bayer does make a fungicide spray that works very well on black spot. You can find it in Lowes. Normally you only need to spray every 2-3 weeks, but since you already have some blackspot, you may want to do it weekly until you don't see any new spots.
Combination products are not a good idea. You wind up putting down chemicals you don't need an they aren't effective for disease. I've attached a link to what you should buy. Bayer has so many products and the bottles look similar. Make sure you get the one that just says 'Disease Control. You can use it on the roses now. Just follow the directions about avoiding skin contact.
Here is a link that might be useful: Bayer Disease Control
Or use some organic Plant-Tone or Rose-Tone (available at HD)--it has some alfalfa in it (may have some Epsom salts in it too--I don't remember right off hand). Spread out to the drip line, but not too close to the base. Water in well with a strong spray of water and cover with mulch.
Don't know about where you live, but in my area, you have to buy a 50 lb bag if you want alfalfa--so I started using the --Tone fertilizers instead since they have some alfalfa in them. Not a lot, but some.
I do believe alfalfa promotes basal break growth.
Kate
Kate - for what it's worth, if you ever want to give something a shot of pure alfalfa and want a smaller quantity, go to the small animal section of a pet store. In the bags of Timothy Hay for guinea pig/rabbits, there will also be small bags of Alfalfa hay. They run about $7-8, which is relatively reasonable for adding alfalfa to small gardens. I'd estimate those bags could supplement 7-10 roses depending on dosage.
Of course if the "tones" work for you, you're getting the alfalfa and a lot of other good stuff. Just wanted to clarify some options.
Cynthia