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Since your not getting much sun right now anyway just leave it out to get as much as it can. IF it starts to get very hot and sunny and the rose is still struggling then you might want to give it shade in the hottest part of the day. If it looks healthy and growing well don't worry about it. Just leave it in the sun and keep it watered. That's a good healthy mix and your rose should be very happy with it without adding more fertilizer for some time. Disneyland is a really beautiful rose so sit back and enjoy it!


So i actually have 3 of these, 1 is sick....its leaves are limey-yellow compared with the other two. It has ivy growing around it unlike the other two but the ivy has always been
there and this is the first year it has changed color., it looks like maybe some kind of deficiency...any ideas?

Iron deficiency. Next to the foundation, the pH may be too high, preventing the rose from getting at the iron that is in the soil. Miracid in lieu of other fertilizers has lots of available iron and nitrogen that will help. I would buy some plain sulfur (at the garden center). 1/2 cup per square yard will lower the pH by about 1 point, but it takes a season to work.


My Ebb Tides (three) do the same thing, no matter their location in my garden The one in part shade is smaller, but the blooms fry just the same as the two in more sun. Frustratingly, ET doesn't do well in vases for me, and I love the way it looks and smells in the house. I have one Twilight Zone which keeps its color better in the heat, but doesn't do well in bouquets, and it just doesn't smell as good as ET, either. Diane

Thank you Karen. I am very tough with my roses. I only buy the healthiest plants from good rose nurseries. Anything that do not perform or provide enough olfactory satisfaction will get SP'd and replaced with better specimens.
Ebb Tide changes colour depending on sun and heat. In summer it ranges from light to bright pink to light purple. The fragrance is consistently good though. In my Summer it is only fragrant in the morning. In Winter it is fragrant from mid morning till late afternoon.


I was 4 yrs old and my Nana had a dark red climber going up the porch of her bunglow. The roses were quite prolific and every day I would grab a handfull of petals and put them in her mail box. I would ring the door and when my sweet Nana came to see who was there I would tell her the postman had come and she had mail. Believe it or not everytime she would act surprized!!!
Later on I found out her favorite rose was "Sterling Silver"...mine too!

Many of DAs newer roses are much more bs resistant than the old "favorites." After checking around carefully with others on this forum, I say you should order two or three of the newer ones and try them out. It is possible that the newer ones might, in some cases, work fairly well for you.
Here are a couple of my newer and best (bs-resistant) DAs.
Lady of Shalott

Queen of Sweden

Munstead Wood (dark red) and behind it (to the left), Wedgewood Climber (pink/pastel).

Those DAs are quite bs-resistant in my region 6--some of the "tougher" DAs I've tried to grow in the past. Can't guarantee what they will do in your area--but one or two might be worth a try.
Good luck.
Kate

I agree it depends on the climate. Up here where I live (Canada), the Austins available here does pretty well. It won't get monstrous (like our neighbours down south) and it is quite manageable on its own. The Austins I have grown does get bs later in the season, same as my other non-Austins but they are more shrubby which I like. In general, there is a rose for most growing zones. What may do well in may area may not in yours and vice versa. That is why forums like this one exist so we can find out what does well in similar zones.
Re: Teasing Georgia. I would definitely mass plant this one if I have the space. It is very fragrant in my garden. I can smell the tea fragrance before the buds even open. Since I live in a cold zone, I don't have to worry about it being a monster.

Wisconsin Roses does custom budding on multiflora.

I don't see why not. Over half of my 100 bush garden is on fortuniana. I live in the N.E. GA. mountains, zone 7a/7b. I have never lost a rose to rootstock failure yet. Trust me, it gets cold here in the winters. I have all my grafted roses planted with the graft at ground level.

I think Mad is right. This looks like one of the grocery store type minis. They're very hard to ID because the grower doesn't supply the names to the sellers, just generic colors tags. And that's probably how the sellers order them, a gross of red, a gross of yellow, etc. They're meant as gift roses, instead of getting a dozen roses, and they're actually meant to be disposable. However, if planted in the ground they grow and bloom for years. Enjoy your rose and don't worry about it's name. Name it after your sister!


Yes, give them a couple years to settle in and mature--then assess how well they are doing.
That said, I've grown Jubilee Celebration for 7-8 years now--lovely blooms, but not the most vigorous plant, and while not a blackspot magnet, it periodically has some BS problems.
I haven't grown Boscobel, but would it I had room for it. It is supposed to be very bs resistant, so definitely give it time to settle in before you make a final judgment.
A number of gardeners have praised Golden Celebrations beauty, but I seem to remember that nearly all of them admitted she had periodic BS problems, even after she was quite mature.
That's all I can help you with on those roses, but in the future, look each one up on the David Austin site (and on helpmefind.com) to see how bs-resistant they are--but be careful with DA roses. He rarely mentions anything as negative as "disease." Instead, he will comment on how "healthy" the roses are--which means they may be fairly good on bs-resistance. If he says nothing about "health" or "disease," that probably means it is a bs magnet and you will have to spray.
Hope that helps.
Kate

I don't have a huge garden area and test 12 to 15 roses per year -- rotating them out and selling my duds on craigslist. I never pay any attention to DA's catalog or any catalog and thoroughly check out all my roses on HMF. DA's catalog and others soul objective is to get you to buy their roses, whether they are good or not. That's why I get on here to ask people who have actually got experience with the particular roses I'm asking about. All areas of the country are different and I factor that in . The catalog photos and descriptions are usually photoshopped and have erroneous info on smell and other particulars. Good advice though. Thx cj

Don't use baking soda on plants, they don't like sodium. I use 1 tspn potassium bicarbonate and a little dishwashing soap in a spray bottle, you can buy potassium bicarbonate on Amazon. Plants like potassium and fungus doesn't like the high pH in the bicarbonate. The soap will also kill aphids and whiteflies on contact, something I've had a lot of this year.
You can also buy GreenCure on Amazon or your local garden center, it's main ingredient is potassium bicarbonate. Of course there's Bayer 3-in-1 if you like pesticides.




Gary, I know what you mean by bags of mulch being easier to use sometimes... We shovel the mulch out of the truck on to our front sidewalk then I have to wheelbarrow it out into the yard about 80ft -90ft away...
Bet your glad that job is done....
We have areas in our yard that can be mulched and other areas that can not because of it keeping the soil to wet... Our soil type varies...
When I brought the first 60 bags of bark mulch home, I stacked them in my two-car garage -- looked like a thousand bags -- until I got my garden ready for the mulch. Now that all of the mulch is in my garden, I even cleaned up my garage and it's spacious again. Now, I need another "project" (aka "chore") to tackle.