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dog_wood_2010(7)

I have had a Sun Sprite Rose for several years and have up rooted it and replanted it 3 times. It is a robust and generally trouble free rose. I never had any problems with it. I love the bright yellow blooms and its strong licorice aroma. Mine blooms when it wants to, usually three times throughout the spring and summer. Here is a pic of mine.

    Bookmark   November 15, 2013 at 12:01AM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

My 2 bits:

I've never grown Sunsprite because of reports of health issues.

In another thread, I confessed that "I am quite keen on Kordes," but I should have said then and I should always emphasize that I'm referring to 21st century Kordes roses - particularly 2004 onward. EVERYTHING I've read on these very modern Kordes roses says health is NOT an issue. Criticisms presented are usually a matter of personal preference for certain characteristics. Sunsprite is from 1973 and definitely isn't in the same category.

I wish I could make a specific suggestion, but I don't really grow yellow roses. I have Molineux and at its best Molineux is a delicious changeable blend of pink, apricot, and yellow - a trait shared by some of the most famous Austins - truly beautiful. Molineux was only pure yellow for me in the heat of summer.

Molineux was lovely here, no spray, for about a year and a half - then boom; it completely defoliates annually now. Molineux certainly doesn't get my endorsement for a no spray environment either.

As others have already mentioned, and I agree: if you want a reliably healthy yellow, please look to the more modern yellows.

    Bookmark   November 15, 2013 at 12:01PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

You might get a great deal of information from my favorite rose book:
"TEA ROSES: Old Roses For Warm Gardens."

See:
http://www.amazon.com/Tea-Roses-Old-Warm-Gardens/dp/187705867X

This was THE book that those of us who garden in warm climates hoped for, for years.

You might also like to visit the web sites of the Heritage Roses Group and the Gold Coast Heritage Roses Group to read articles, and to read back issues of Newsletters.

http://www.theheritagerosesgroup.org/
and
http://www.goldcoastrose.org/

You can ask questions through either website. And by all means, visit the Antique Roses forum here.

Jeri

Here is a link that might be useful: TEA ROSE BOOK

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 6:33PM
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Ronn Bonites

Thanks Jeri. Books about rose gardening are hard to come by here so that one's gonna be a treasure! I'll be on the lookout for it next time I go to a book store.

Thanks again for the suggestions and references!

    Bookmark   November 15, 2013 at 10:08AM
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lainey2(7a)

prairiemoon, we do have more bs than you. In my garden, when a rose begins to lose leaves, if I spray with fish emulsion, new leaves pot out within a week. I use a little one quart hand sprayer.

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 11:24PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Diane, that is one vigorous rose! What a lot of rebloom you had with it and especially for a first year. Very pretty photo.

Lainey, I'm so glad you told me that, because I've never tried that and I wouldn't have thought that you could see new foliage that quickly. I have a sprayer I use fish/seaweed emulsion with too. I'm going to have to try that. Thanks.

    Bookmark   November 15, 2013 at 6:28AM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Carol,

I most certainly wouldn't be building the room if it wasn't for already having the materials to do so. The most expensive thing I had to purchase was a specialty thermostat.

What size are the pots you get from Costco?

Beth,

Those are some stunning roses that I am adding to my wish list.

SCG

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 3:59PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Beth - James Biddle!!! GASP - your pictures are wonderful!!!! Oh, I'm glad I ordered it. And Lucille Ball has potential - that's great to know - I don't know much about it except that Digger Dave (once upon a time here) loved that rose. Hmmmm Anna Pavlova - so-so rose. Well, I'll give it a whirl and see who she grows. No, it's supposed to be Jessica with a "c."

SCG - Hubby says about 22" X 17" (WxH) Glad that I helped add to your addiction :)

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 9:43PM
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caldonbeck(UK (8))

re Boscobel. I never spray new releases (until I know how they perform), just because I'd rather not spray if I don't have to and it has remained clean. I don't think I'd call the flowers small, they're smaller than Jubilee Celibration say but bigger than Queen of Sweden. It is an interesting rose colour wise, we had a warm summer this year and it was more orange, I'm expecting it to be slightly more pink in cooler weather. I can see it becoming one of those roses grown by most people who grow austins, if that makes sense, another munstead wood.

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 11:59AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Thank you, caldonbeck, for the additional info. on Boscobel.

I'm out of space for new roses, but just this morning thought of another open spot that could hold a smaller Austin--like Boscobel--just maybe. I'll have to mediate on this a bit, but yes, I'm responding to it like I did to Munstead Wood (which I'm mad about!).

The main thing I'm wondering about now is the orange shades in hot weather. Got lots of hot summer weather here and I'm not usually partial to orange.

Must think some more about this--but anyone who wants to add more info or pics, please do in the meantime.

Kate

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 1:22PM
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henry_kuska

The link below is very complete:

http://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/eyelid-cancer

Mine is a Basal cell carcinoma type.

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 11:48PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I had basal cell skin cancer on my left cheek about 11 years ago. Took 2 operations to remove it all...
I have been careful being in the sun ever since.

But eyelid cancer sounds dreadful....on the eyelid... yeeee

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 1:11PM
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ivamae(ONT)

I don't have the name but believe it is probably a hybrid tea rose. It has flowered since spring. When one bloom was starting to go, I cut it off and in no time there was another one came from new growth where I had cut it off. Very beautiful. I don't have a pic.

thanks. I''m glad I had not already pruned it.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 4:02PM
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henryinct

As soon as you can in the spring before the new growth starts and then probably one more time. For me in CT it was mid-March.

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 1:19AM
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garyt(z6)

Thank you for your informative reply's. I will start using it in the spring. Moroseaz what is Dispersul? I tried googling it and find any information.
Thanks
Garyt

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 6:33PM
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moroseaz

Dispersul is a locally manufactured chelated sulfur product. I add it with the bone meal (phosphorus) and DPW (dried poultry waste) because each product benefits from the others in our alkaline clay soil. Our soils can range from pH 7.0 and up. If you live in an area with a lower pH average and/or your garden has been amended with humus for quite a while, you can probably get by without additional soil sulfur. A soil test, even one of the simple pH kits sold at big box stores, can usually give a fairly accurate pH of acidic to alkaline. Knowing the basic composition of your local soil can eliminate the need to guess and waste time/money. Any amendment/chemical can throw off a well-balanced growing environment and you don't want to make your gardens toxic. I can't advise you on your local soil but the Master Gardeners, rose societies and agriculture universities in your area can give you a very informative overview...Google is your friend :).

A reminder that bone meal (phosphorus) applied as a top-dressing is pretty much useless since it stays where you put it and even when put into the soil should be applied as a 'clump', not mixed with other amendments or soil. Many soils do not benefit from additional phosphorus. We also add Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate) and chelated iron... again amendments you may not need.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 7:50PM
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susan4952(5)

I successfully overwinter :
Diana, POW, Sweetness, Easter. Basket, burgundy iceberg, majesty, ebb tide
Liv tyler, white licorice, a few I cannot remember their names..lol. These are all tree roses.
Regulars are Cherry parfait, Diana, pow, Gemini, jubilee celebration, papa meilland, lavender lassie, and a few more I cannot remember.
Roses I cannot get to survive anywhere under any circumstances are JUST Joey and PJP 2..... No matter WHAT I do! And thank goodness for the rolling plant trolleys !

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 7:06PM
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susan4952(5)

SCG, hope this helps. I do love being able to nurse a zone 7 thru a zone 5 winter and see them live, year after year.
It is essential to protect the tree roses as their grafts are up in the elements. The regular HTs are just so much bigger the next year when the have less winter kill.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 7:11PM
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sidos_house

Hi, Prairiemoon! I didn't really know what I was buying when I bought it :) It was one of those instant gratification purchases by someone who knew nothing about roses. It is a great rose, though, extremely healthy and cheerful. Since it's right outside a room where I do all my girly things, I work on it a lot. It gets a good pruning in January and then regular deadheading throughout the Spring and Summer, which is a bit of a chore because it's so floriferous. Now if it were only fragrant... ;)

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 5:58PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Exactly! I guess you can't have everything, all though I keep trying. :-) Beautiful rose!

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 6:05PM
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marcindy(z5b, Indianapolis, IN)

Update... after all my research and having finally settled on Jens Munk we walk into Costco in September and spot five gallon Limelight hydrangeas for a killer price. So, we ended up buying 7 of those and planting my screening hedge in front of our bee hives... with veils on of course. :-) The hedge looks good, will look better in coming years, however, the look could be improved upon by a second "hedge" row of shorter roses in front of that... Jens Munk is out, too big for it... but a shorter rugosa rose, or maybe some of the shorter English roses advertised for hedging..hmmm... Choices choices...lol

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 8:45AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Possibilities that come to mind, and assuming roses grow to a fairly predictable size in your zone 5b, are: Tamora, Munstead Wood, maybe The Prince; non Austins might include Bernstein-Rose, Easy Does It (might get too tall), Ebb Tide, or the new Carruth mini Diamond Eyes. DE's blooms are about 1 1/2 inches in diameter, but the bush is about 2 feet tall so far. Here's a pic of Diamond Eyes. Diane

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 2:12PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely bouquets!

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 12:47PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks Seil

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 7:19PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

How cold is a "hard freeze" in your area? It was cold enough here last night that the water in my birdbath froze, but all the roses in bloom still looked more than half way decent today.

Roses can take quite a bit of cold--into the high 20s, like 27-28 degrees.

If I were worried, I might grab a couple handfuls of oak leaves (blown in from my neighbors' yards) and put them around the base of the rose bush. In fact, with 15 Austins all only a few weeks in the ground, I think I'd do that to all of them for sure.

Good luck.

Kate

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 5:54PM
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Adrianne(7b Georgia)

Kate,
25-27 degrees. That's very unusual for November here. I will get to protecting them. Thanks, I appreciate it!
-Adrianne

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 6:14PM
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jockewing(9a)

So if it hasn't really rained in several weeks, do I still need to spray just to be safe?

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 4:53PM
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amberroses(10a)

Black spot can form when there hasn't been any rain in a long time if it is humid enough. I know this from experience.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 4:58PM
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amberroses(10a)

I'd wait until all the stems turned black.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 4:54PM
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