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ivamae(ONT)

I don't have the name but believe it is probably a hybrid tea rose. It has flowered since spring. When one bloom was starting to go, I cut it off and in no time there was another one came from new growth where I had cut it off. Very beautiful. I don't have a pic.

thanks. I''m glad I had not already pruned it.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 4:02PM
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henryinct

As soon as you can in the spring before the new growth starts and then probably one more time. For me in CT it was mid-March.

    Bookmark   November 14, 2013 at 1:19AM
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garyt(z6)

Thank you for your informative reply's. I will start using it in the spring. Moroseaz what is Dispersul? I tried googling it and find any information.
Thanks
Garyt

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 6:33PM
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moroseaz

Dispersul is a locally manufactured chelated sulfur product. I add it with the bone meal (phosphorus) and DPW (dried poultry waste) because each product benefits from the others in our alkaline clay soil. Our soils can range from pH 7.0 and up. If you live in an area with a lower pH average and/or your garden has been amended with humus for quite a while, you can probably get by without additional soil sulfur. A soil test, even one of the simple pH kits sold at big box stores, can usually give a fairly accurate pH of acidic to alkaline. Knowing the basic composition of your local soil can eliminate the need to guess and waste time/money. Any amendment/chemical can throw off a well-balanced growing environment and you don't want to make your gardens toxic. I can't advise you on your local soil but the Master Gardeners, rose societies and agriculture universities in your area can give you a very informative overview...Google is your friend :).

A reminder that bone meal (phosphorus) applied as a top-dressing is pretty much useless since it stays where you put it and even when put into the soil should be applied as a 'clump', not mixed with other amendments or soil. Many soils do not benefit from additional phosphorus. We also add Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate) and chelated iron... again amendments you may not need.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 7:50PM
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susan4952(5)

I successfully overwinter :
Diana, POW, Sweetness, Easter. Basket, burgundy iceberg, majesty, ebb tide
Liv tyler, white licorice, a few I cannot remember their names..lol. These are all tree roses.
Regulars are Cherry parfait, Diana, pow, Gemini, jubilee celebration, papa meilland, lavender lassie, and a few more I cannot remember.
Roses I cannot get to survive anywhere under any circumstances are JUST Joey and PJP 2..... No matter WHAT I do! And thank goodness for the rolling plant trolleys !

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 7:06PM
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susan4952(5)

SCG, hope this helps. I do love being able to nurse a zone 7 thru a zone 5 winter and see them live, year after year.
It is essential to protect the tree roses as their grafts are up in the elements. The regular HTs are just so much bigger the next year when the have less winter kill.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 7:11PM
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sidos_house

Hi, Prairiemoon! I didn't really know what I was buying when I bought it :) It was one of those instant gratification purchases by someone who knew nothing about roses. It is a great rose, though, extremely healthy and cheerful. Since it's right outside a room where I do all my girly things, I work on it a lot. It gets a good pruning in January and then regular deadheading throughout the Spring and Summer, which is a bit of a chore because it's so floriferous. Now if it were only fragrant... ;)

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 5:58PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Exactly! I guess you can't have everything, all though I keep trying. :-) Beautiful rose!

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 6:05PM
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marcindy(z5b, Indianapolis, IN)

Update... after all my research and having finally settled on Jens Munk we walk into Costco in September and spot five gallon Limelight hydrangeas for a killer price. So, we ended up buying 7 of those and planting my screening hedge in front of our bee hives... with veils on of course. :-) The hedge looks good, will look better in coming years, however, the look could be improved upon by a second "hedge" row of shorter roses in front of that... Jens Munk is out, too big for it... but a shorter rugosa rose, or maybe some of the shorter English roses advertised for hedging..hmmm... Choices choices...lol

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 8:45AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Possibilities that come to mind, and assuming roses grow to a fairly predictable size in your zone 5b, are: Tamora, Munstead Wood, maybe The Prince; non Austins might include Bernstein-Rose, Easy Does It (might get too tall), Ebb Tide, or the new Carruth mini Diamond Eyes. DE's blooms are about 1 1/2 inches in diameter, but the bush is about 2 feet tall so far. Here's a pic of Diamond Eyes. Diane

    Bookmark   November 13, 2013 at 2:12PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely bouquets!

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 12:47PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks Seil

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 7:19PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

How cold is a "hard freeze" in your area? It was cold enough here last night that the water in my birdbath froze, but all the roses in bloom still looked more than half way decent today.

Roses can take quite a bit of cold--into the high 20s, like 27-28 degrees.

If I were worried, I might grab a couple handfuls of oak leaves (blown in from my neighbors' yards) and put them around the base of the rose bush. In fact, with 15 Austins all only a few weeks in the ground, I think I'd do that to all of them for sure.

Good luck.

Kate

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 5:54PM
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Adrianne(7b Georgia)

Kate,
25-27 degrees. That's very unusual for November here. I will get to protecting them. Thanks, I appreciate it!
-Adrianne

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 6:14PM
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jockewing(9a)

So if it hasn't really rained in several weeks, do I still need to spray just to be safe?

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 4:53PM
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amberroses(10a)

Black spot can form when there hasn't been any rain in a long time if it is humid enough. I know this from experience.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 4:58PM
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amberroses(10a)

I'd wait until all the stems turned black.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 4:54PM
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henry_kuska

Dan, how did you rule out herbicide damage?

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 11:03AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Okay, this is just so sad. Seeing posts from Illinois with people losing roses to rrd, sad for rose lovers every where. I had already learned of rrd from reading here so when I saw that first bad cane some 15 years ago I felt like vomiting. Standing staring at it, wishing it wasn't but it was rrd. Garden was hit very hard that year losing many, many roses. Still had loses for another two years but nothing since. I also diversified after that bring in clematis and many daylilies. I absolutely need to learn how to root roses. All of mine are own root and some special to me can no longer be purchased own root. Easter Basket whlle not a big deal rose to most is just beautiful to me can't imagine being without her and no longer available own root. Last deadly virus to strike here is cucumber mosaic virus. Killed my ligularias. Vectored by the fuzzy white leaf hopper. Methods of spread (among others) hand to plant contact. Are you kidding me now sterilizing pruners between plants isn't enough. I'll always garden so what will be shall be. Pat

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 11:17AM
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jacqueline9CA

If you can post the names of your roses, we can tell you which would not be hardy in ME, and then you could avoid the trouble of moving those ones, and only move the ones that have the possibility of surviving in your new garden.

Jackie

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 12:42PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

I say, "give it a try". When I moved from S.E. FL. to the N.E. GA. mountains I brought 17 roses with me. All on fortuniana rootstock. I was told they would all die. The first winter up here was COLD (5,7, and many teens with strong winds). I lost 5 roses that winter but the rest are still going strong after 5+ yrs. All you can do is give it a shot. Just winter protect them the best you can.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2013 at 10:47AM
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jacqueline9CA

If you drill down on their web site, it might say, or you could always email them and ask -

Jackie

    Bookmark   April 11, 2013 at 9:38PM
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jamesthepeach(9)

This might be a little late considering the thread is from way back in April. I had the same question and contacted Dewar via email. They responded and told me that Dr. Huey is the primary rootstock they use. I have two Roses purchased from Lowe's that came from Dewar (Olympiad and New Year). They seem to be doing well in containers.

This post was edited by jamesthepeach on Mon, Nov 11, 13 at 23:12

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 11:04PM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

Hello!

I know I'm coming to this thread a bit late, but debinnh, can you give any updates about how your Bull's Eye is faring? I too am in zone 5, and I too covet it!

Thanks in advance!

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 9:51PM
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bethnorcal9

Hah! I had to laff. Campanula, there is a rose named MARGARET THATCHER that I would LOVE to have. It's a Japanese bred Fl that's a beautiful pink and white stripe. I also see there's a Kordes rose with several names including Margaret Thatcher. It goes by FLAMINGO here. (I think I might even have it LOL)

BULLS EYE is a lovely thing. The only fault I see in it is how it changes color so friggin' fast. Goes from lt peachy-yellow to pale pink in just a few hours after opening.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 10:35PM
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henry_kuska

Unfortunately, the article did not say how many tried just removing the infected cane.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 2:45PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Seil and Henry,
Also missing is how many tried removal at first sighting. Most people waffle.
And unsaid is the class/classes of roses that the folks grow. From speaking to that group, I'd guess that the majority grow modern roses because they are rose show centric. I've had little luck saving Hybrid Teas and Floribundas but very good luck saving older roses and shrub roses.

Unfortunately there's nothing in the scientific (or otherwise) rose literature about basic differences in rose classes, pretty much you either read about exterior appearances or differences at the genetic level.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 3:34PM
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henry_kuska

Potassium silicate is the one most often mentioned.

See Mike Rivers post (and others) in the thread linked to below:

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg030010308429.html

Here is a link that might be useful: earlier silicate thread

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 2:43PM
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henry_kuska

The other day I was watching a Nature Channel TV program. Apparently there was (is) a valley near Yellowstone Park where the grass has a high concentration of silicates. Over the centuries the buffalo have learned to avoid that valley (unless near starvation) as the grass very quickly wears down their teeth. I tried Googling the information but apparently did not find the correct combination to get a hit.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2013 at 2:53PM
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