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Here's a link to the thread Carol mentioned: Finally got my Broceliande wanna be to bloom
Well. Those beautiful new leaves turned crisp and died off one leaf at a time. The black on tip of cane spread down and black spread up from ground. I think she is dead. The first 2 photos are of what was Command Performance.
The next 2 photos show Shreveport. Shreveport arrived weak and had green little caterpillars I later found out were probably sawfly larvae. I checked foliage under & over & it seemed to recover & even made a bud. Then I had a few bad days and wasn't outside. When I went out, I found Shreveport seeming to be going the way of CP.
The last two photos are of roses on either side, Veldfire and Lasting Peace (with a few chewed leaves). They appear to be doing ok.
Our weather has been mild for August, and there has been regular rain. I don't know what to think, but decided to post in case someone recognizes something which could spread to Veldfire and Lasting Peace.
This little bed is a bit of a mess, and I took photos before tidying it up. There is one more rose not pictured, Sunset Celebration, which is going gangbusters next to Veldfire. These were all planted from bands in June and are own root.
Thanks for any feedback!
Thanks guys. Yes, this breed is known as guard dogs, killing wolves protecting livestock.......but I don't have a farm, only roses, it would be nice to have some goats for milk. :-)
The liquid fence smells really bad, I don't want to spray it any more, hope this fence is not too expensive and it works on rabbits too.
rosecanadian, Boz Shepherds ARE huge, and I also agree that they look really cool (they also aren't droolers). I talked to one of the breeders who introduced them to America (I first heard of the breed on the forum the person frequented), and their personalities are pretty cool, too. They aren't for the faint of heart, though!
nanadoll, I hope you guys can get control of those fires soon! It must be awful to be so close to them. I live fairly close to the Great Dismal Swamp, and when that caught fire a few years ago the scent of smoke in the air made me sick whenever I went outside.
summersrythm, those are some cute dogs! What are their names? I didn't realize pet Komondors were kept clipped rather than matted. It makes sense, and in my opinion they look much more handsome, too. Also, here's a tip for measuring dogs (and any animal, in general): officially they are measured from their shoulders to the ground, not from their heads to the ground. The nice thing is it's a lot easier to measure them that way!
Haha I just realized I don't even know what the fence is that started this thread! I can't watch the video--I have limited bandwidth, but I'd like to at least see what it is if anyone can give me its name.
I use the stinky stuff which works pretty well to keep deer away, but is expensive and repulsive, especially on edibles. Emily, do you find that the bags scare away the birds, too? My feeders aren't too far from the tomatoes, and I'm afraid there will be problems with the bags and the birds. I would love to try the bag solution, if possible. Diane
I was just at one of my local Lowe's and they had one rose that looked like some kind of mini. I mean they had one rose. that was it. Most of the local Lowe's and Home Depots have just had lots of knockouts with very few other roses, if any. Fourth of July is on my wish list.
I now have a rose garden with an actual design, all thanks to a happy accident. We bought a house with a small round aboveground pool right outside the breakfast nook bay window. It was circled with bark mulch and a nice edging on one side, and a stone patio on another. Took up the pool, dug a big doughnut-shaped bed with a small circle bed in the center. You enter off the patio and can walk on the bark among all the roses. The back half is somewhat shady and consists of the Fairy, Vanity, Darlow's Enigma, Blush Noisette. I have one big plant of Lavender Dream in the center. The back is against a split rail fence, and one side has a wood panel fence. I have pots lined up opposite the bay window for extra color-- Carefree Sunshine, Cubana, Rita Levi Montalcini. I'd like to add South Africa and Valencia but not sure they'd be happy with my no-spray.
I was leaning towards that...but now I think it might be Sleeping Beauty.
Sleeping Beauty has white at the base of the petals, and when the flower is open you can see white.
Now mine happened to fall apart before I could see a white center...BUT...each petal had a little bit of white at the base.
Does anyone have The McCartney Rose and notice if the petals are pink all the way down or if it has white at the base?? My new TMR is between blooms right now - so I can't check it.
Thanks!
Carol
Sara-Ann, I got Poseidon this year from Palatine, also. My blooms did not open properly, but are finally improving. I don't know if it was the wetness, lack of sun, and/or thrips? But this evening I was noticing much nicer blooms. Poseidon is thriving, tall, and very healthy.
I'm super excited too Sara Ann. We too got lots of rain and everything looks gorgeous. Roses are loaded with buds. My Poseidon has been super strange all year. Im getting some pretty blooms this year but good gravy its been a strange year for it. Hoping your net flush of them is nice because its gorgeous. I'm getting a good flush right now. Judy
Hi Sharon,
I have used the Montery spray with good results. I would try that before doing anything else. They sell it on Amazon and the small bottle is good for maybe 4 doses, depending on how large your garden is.
I would then use the Bayer granules to help prevent a re-infestation. I don't think it lists chili thrips on the list of insects, but Geoff from Cool Roses recommends it as a means to control them, maybe not eliminate them all together, but it keeps them from forming a major infestation.
I have used it with good results, maybe an 80% reduction, not %100, but a number I can definitely live with.
Also, has anyone use the thrip pheromone lures with any success? I read about these on amazon and I think they are a good idea, but they are a bit pricey ($20 for a few strips) and I'm not sure they'll work on Chili Thrips, but it seems like a good idea. I'd like to give it a try soon.
Thanks prairie... Thats the thread that made me look for this rose. What with the last two polar winters I've longed to have some cane left again. I also have a few seriously raised beds that I was having a difficult time finding a hardy enough rose for. So I spent time this winter reading the far north forum. Now we need a Campfire in several other colors. -)
Onewheeler... Maybe it doesn't have to last to awfully long to please me -) Anyway when it opened it's first blooms I wasn't for sure if I would like or not. It grew on me thou enough to get some more. I had her planted in an odd spot because the rose in her new bed had not grown back yet. They clearly could not take the raised nature of this bed. Campfire should do well here thou this was late in the season to have moved her.
I agree about the fall growth spurt starting early. I had a few very hard looks at mine yesterday (even through it didn't feel temp wise like fall).
The stipules just shouldn't do that. Nor should a 1/4" stem be able to support two canes of that size....that's asking a lot of the xylem to push nutrients up to those two stems.
Were it mine, I'd assume a worried RRD yes. And I'd be doing whatever it took to isolate or remove the rose because this is the prime population surge time for the vector mites in our part of the world.
It's pretty terrible that I can tell from his description just what his rose looks like....he writes well and hit the high points head on.
Ann
Based on the stipules I would have removed it also. One thing about rrd is it draws your attention often before there are clear signs. Rrd for some reason has been slow this year to show normal symptoms. We're seeing odd signs first without the hyper thorniness, witches broom and twisted distorted growth. Could it be the excessive rains or a viral mutation. I have not the education to even begin to hazard a guess.
You certainly have the knowledge and expertise. I highly doubt that you're running willy nilly seeing rrd everywhere. You saw something that was off in appearance. By removing the cane you cause no harm and may save the roses life.
Kub, I'm not sure where you're located, but I have learned myself not to mix the fertilizer and whatever chemicals just in case there might be some unforeseen reaction. Also, sometimes too much water causes this in a particular plant. It doesn't look like you have a dry problem?
What I would do to diagnose is to not water, let it get dry (if possible), and then water deeply. Cut the damaged parts and watch what bounces back, moving them to semi-shade as they recover. I would actually retain as much of the green leaves as possible and not do a cut back, but definitely remove the offending leaves so you can monitor the health of the plants.
I had a plant, Distant Drums, completely defoliate on me and I moved him to a place with a little less sun and watered deeply and not often.
Good luck.
SoFL- I've done the dry pot thing with the same result. One of the two Grace De Monacos on Fortuniana that I had suddenly turned yellow because it was in a corner of the yard that wasn't getting enough water. I babied it with deadly results. I also had a Ruby Ice, this one on Dr. Huey, that the same thing happened to and I was able to revive it. This is the draw-back to growing roses in pots.
At first I thought it was an overwatering issue, since my sprinklers go off six days out of the week, but the soil drench of the different roses varied in how much water each had in the pot. As time has passed many of the roses are displaying the browning leaves that are indicative of chemical burn, but some just have dropped all the yellow leaves.
I'm writing it off as an honorary mention of the Dummass & Dummerass award in the area of garden genocide. I haven't lost any roses yet, but time will communicate that clearly.
Okay, MsDorkGirl, you need to share your name/nickname because I'm afraid of insulting you with your screen name, lol. Thanks for the feedback/advice. It had been a long time since I had mixed fertilizer and chemicals in the same sprayer. I did it to try to kill two birds with one stone and try to give the infected roses a boost. I'll make sure to never make that mistake again! I usually baby my sick roses like you say, but I have a yard full of roses in this condition right now. Again, thank you for the advice and thank you for the luck. I'll need it!
I do understand I don't live in the midwest but until you grow something I guess you don't know how it will do in our area. Someone from east TN grows Ramblin Red in her no spray garden with health and vigor. I believe that Tennessee has high black spot pressure, maybe not the same strains as mine but black spot none the less.
TNY78(7a-East TN)
My favorite climber is a red climber....Ramblin Red! Wonderful rose! Vigorous, disease free in my no spray garden, and blooms all the time...love it!
Tammy Several others have stated it is quite hardy and HMF rates it as extremely disease resistant. So all that I can do is consider the various data and take a chance since no one in my state or neighborhood appears to be growing it.
Sharon
Winner's Circle is doing well for me as a climber despite a horrible location and almost no care. It is on the north side of my house with only morning sun. It is shaded by huge mature trees and my house as well as my neighbors. I might fertilize it with some organic knock out fertilizer in spring if I remember. It doesn't get watered. Yet it survives and I even get a flush or two of blooms. It would probably do really well in your location with a lot more sun and what looks like much better soil.