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Moodyblue.
In response to your 'unfragrant' Princess Of Wales rose which incidentally looks gorgeous, there is another similar one that does have a wonderful fragrance. That is A Whiter Shade Of Pale. Although it opens with a blush center that fades to pure white within 2 days.It withstands rain very well without any sign of spoiling. Unfortunately it's only available in the UK at present. This is a photo I took recently after planting in March.
This post was edited by bendipa on Sun, Jul 20, 14 at 14:19
Kosmos, or sometimes known as Kosmos Fairy Tale. It doesn't bloom as prolifically as Iceberg, but it also doesn't BS and defoliate like Iceberg will in most seasons. It is an incredibly charming rose and incredibly disease resistant. Best white I grow.
Escimo is another very good one.
Most of the Rugosa roses do very well with morning sun and afternoon shade. For white, Rosa Rugosa Alba can't be beat. Rosa Rugosa is a beautiful mauve pink. They are almost indestructible. You NEVER have to spray them for anything. Beautiful deep green foliage. The blooms smell great. No animals mess with them. That means no deer, rabbit or anyone else who chew on roses for a meal.The trick is your planting hole. If you have decent drainage, dig a hole 18" deep, 36" around. Get rid of most of that soil. Several bags of sand and a couple of bags of Garden Soil. Not top soil. It comes out to a 3 to 1 ratio. 3 or 4 shovels full of the soil you took out tossed in. Mix it all up real good. Water it down and let it settle. Throw some more sand and Garden Soil on top of everything and let it sit for a couple of days then plant your Rugosa's. I feed mine twice a year. Once in early spring right after pruning and once in August. All I feed them with is fish emulsion. The only drawback is the stems are solid thorns. But I can live with that.
I used new soil because I thought I was giving them the best opportunity for growth by buying something - apparently not. It looks like I could have saved a lot of money by not buying dirt - good advertising on the dirt makers part I guess!
I live in zone 8A (lower Alabama on the Gulf Coast) and I have heard of blackspot disease which got me worried. There is no stand still water. I had no idea they needed that little of water. I was way over doing the watering!
I had a part of our yard sink from when I buried our pet dog this winter.
I purchased garden soil from our hardware store in which I filled in the sinking areas. You know I'm having a hard time getting grass to grow in that location...
Anyhow that's my situation and not yours...
Kate and Michaelg advice sounds good to me...
Best wishes and I hope things work out! Post a pic of your blooms someday! Thanks...
Thanks Sammy - as it happened, I put one in the bed and one in a pot in the shed. Both seemed to survive the winter (amazingly) but three weeks after transplanting it to the bed, the potted AF upped and quit. The other one is doing fine, if a little slow to get started. In the future I'll post this sort of thing on Discussions. :)
I planted a potted grafted Bull's Eye this year. Compared with other roses planted at the same time, BE is quite short. So, not very vigorous growth so far. Healthy though, and I really like the flowers. The yellow does fade to white but the eye is prominent and maintains its color.
Seil, have you noticed on yours, that the flowers close up at night and reopen in the day?
I got this one this year too and love it. I like how it fades to white, and how the eye goes from cranberry to violet - I like the effect of different colours of blooms in the same spray.
Can't really comment on the vigour as almost all of my roses are new this year, but I've been pleased with the growth so far. It's not super tall but it is green, bushy, and healthy looking.
Ratdogheads, I do notice that the blooms close up at night and reopen in the day.
Karen
How much summer rain do you receive (in an average year, if there is such a thing...)? My roses have not had a single basal break this year and I'm definitely concerned but we don't get much summer rain and if I put down alfalfa now, the basals won't come until Sept/Oct which is kinda late to harden off before winter. I'm just going to water, water, water.
Cecily's comment is really important for those of us with real cane-killing winters.
I've looked at pictures of my roses in 2013 and I've seen them this year, and the intervening winter did a real job on them. This year, grow/regrow the roots. Next year, the roots will grow the canes.
No roses here yet. :( Still waiting. Not even my peonies have bloomed yet. Sigh.
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Your roses are stunning!!!! Oh wow!!
I just love MIP, Paul Neyron and Love Song. Such full old fashioned blooms. Love, love, love them!!
Joseph's Coat really does have a lot of colors. So pretty!!
Thanks!
Carol
I have kind of the same thing with a store bought "tornement of roses" rose.and I doubt it had rrd or caught one with the other ones untouched.the new leaves look strange,but then I saw some other roses with the same kind of growth.the flowers look fine.i would also wait and see.from what I read,the thing with rrd is that it doesn't change color fro red to green.while yours look green-ish
Karolina, I want to let you know that a few of my roses have been doing the exact same thing this year--I think it's the extreme dry heat we've been getting all spring. When spring started, the roses threw out nice long canes to try to bloom, I took off most buds, after that, they began to grow these short candelabra canes with flower buds on top. I'm pretty sure it's not a disease, I think probably just less than ideal growing condition/environment, I'm hoping we will get a cool and wet fall/winter so the roses can get a break from being constantly pushed to grow and bloom, poor things. Anyways if you go to the webpage I'm attaching here, you can see the leaves on that obviously very healthy rose's candelabra canes are different from the big leaves, I don't think it's anything to worry about. Same with the masses of thorns.
Deer damage can also cause candelabra growth, it happened to my Martina Mondadori.
Here is a link that might be useful: Pruning Candelabras
And thanks for the compliments on the picture! I'll pass them on. My daughter is 7 and definitely an artiste! She doesn't always limit herself to pen and paper, but utilizes anything and everything around the house! I think I'll be keeping the squirrel picture for posterity. :)
Maybe just a barrier around the rose like some cheap fencing wrapped around?