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sandandsun(9a FL)

Classic old sweetness and spice too!

We're getting up, ahem, above 80 now here and nearing that other more familiar number that won't be mentioned now. However, I do hope that means that at least milder temperatures are visiting zones 4, 5 and you.

Thank you for the fragrance report.

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 12:12AM
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boncrow66

Here is my Nacodoches from Chamblees from 3 yrs ago. It is a healthy, thriving rose. Strike it rich is behind it. So far all my roses from Chamblees are doing great. I got Evelyn and Golden Celebration this year. They are doing good but I hope they out grow their octopus arms in a few years.

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 5:27PM
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cathie3078(6b MA)

I am looking for suggestions for hardy Austins that would combine well with an established border of predominantly orange daylilies. I am planning a bed along a newly-installed white picket fence and want Austin roses to anchor it on the inside of the fence. The daylilies are on the outside near the road and are thriving, despite the abuse from winter road sanding and salting. In doing my research, I am finding my favorites to be some of the pinks, such as Alnwick and Queen of Sweden, that I don't think would work that well with the orange daylilies. What do you think? Would you limit the rose color choices to those that would combine well with the daylilies or just move the lilies? My nursery advisor says not to let the lilies dictate my choices but admits she's not a big fan of them. The area is about 40' long and receives full sun in coastal southern New England.
Thanks.

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 10:33AM
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msrose(TX8)

I have Peach Drift and Sweet Drift. All I can say is these are some tough roses. The blooms don't look as pretty as the pictures in my hot Texas summers, but they grow in my raised beds where so many other plants have dwindled away. I just saw Red Drift and Pink Drift at the nursery and was coming to this forum to see if anyone grows them. I need something for my front yard that is lower growing than Peach and Sweet and Red looks like it might be a smaller plant. Pink has such cute flowers.

Peach Drift

Sweet Drift

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 2:47PM
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kingcobbtx9b

Thanks for the tips. Yeah I got the big in back little in front, it was more a question of color arrangement I struggle with. I like to underplant with a variety of plants, but specifically like using lavenders.

Here is the list of all my roses:
2 Graham Thomas
1 Heritage
1 Falstaff
1 Scepter D'Isle
1 Lady of Shallot
1 Princess Anne
1 Abraham Darby
Non Austins:
2 Belinda's Dreams
Don Juan
Golden Showers
In the Mood
Lady Hillingdon
Lady Hillingdon Cl
Ducher Rose
Olympiad
Easy Living
Easy going
Chrysler Imperial
Stainless Steel
Nacodoches Rose(Sorry Texas A&M I refuse to call it Grandma's Yellow)
Grande Dame
Love Song
Tahitian Sunset
Legends
Julia Child
Peace
Memorial Day
China Doll
Lasting Love
Serendipity
Ebb Tide
Twilight Zone
Yellow Lady Banks
America Cl
Rosarium Uetersen
Sexy Rexy
JFK
Mr. Lincoln
Zepherin Druhin
5 or 6 unknown roses.

I believe that is all of them.

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 11:16AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I tend to group differently

The front yard street side has a section that is mostly pinks and pink tones and one that mom can see from the dining room window that is purples and whites with yellow and purple companion plants. There are a couple that I plan on moving in the fall because they are wrong for the bed. Almost all of these are plants I received from friends or neighbors so I think of them every time I walk thru the garden.

In the mauve garden I have...mauves. Moms favorite color. I would like to keep this bed more mauve, shades of purples and white. But Don Juan was there first so he is my pop of color. Many of these are also from friends.

I put the Austins together, I do wish I had swapped Crocus and Bishops castle so the warm Austins would be together and the cool ones together.

In the Veggie Lower Garden I have the Antiques and the rest of the collection-still working on those

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 12:11PM
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mirendajean(Donegal, Ireland)

Thank you! That's the fun, understanding reaction I've been looking for. You guys are feb. :-)

I'd totally forgotten that I had a similar situation last May. While spring tidying the flower beds I'd discovered rose leaves peeking out of some leafmould. Apparently I'd tossed a long cane behind the bed and it's rooted over the winter. Here's its pic from May 13...

Here's pics I took today...

Ignoring and forgetting cuttings must be my special talent. :-)

M

Here is a link that might be useful: Last years post about my surprise rooted cutting.

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 11:06AM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Congratulations. That is something I have yet to make happen. Mine have all died. The trade off is that I have magic sucker dust in my soil. I nurse sucker children to maturity. This spring I have added a new Earth Song plant.

You've got me inspired to try some cuttings again this spring!

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 11:41AM
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kittymoonbeam

Grandifloras

Mount Shasta
White Lightnin

Climbers

Butterscotch
Casino
Cl. Pasadena Tournament
Rosarium Utersen
Cl. Winnifred Coulter

Shrub Roses

Heart n Soul
Huntington Hero
Mountain Music
Paul Ecke Jr.
Rabble Rouser

    Bookmark     January 7, 2014 at 11:42PM
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bonsaimaster1

can anyone please win me a hocus pocus rose! I will pay of course for your troubles, please contact me back at Dallischurch@rocketmail.com

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 5:04AM
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iris_gal(z9 CA)

duplicate

    Bookmark     April 26, 2014 at 2:08AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Go for it! :) I'd just use 'Iceberg's. They are so classic.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 12:20PM
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martinca_gw

Icebergs! Yes!! How funny...... so ubiquitous they've become invisible to me.
Put n big, fat, tall green something in pots, iceberg between the pots. Wonder if they'd object to the jasmine at their feet. Be a pretty combo.
:) Will post once it's done. You have helped me!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 11:34PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

No fertilizer. Wait until after you plant it, and after it blooms to apply any fertilizer.

If you expect a good rain tomorrow, then sit the plant out and let the rain water the plant. If not, then make sure to water the plant well. Make sure that the holes in the pot are open, don't sit it in a saucer or anything where the pot can sit in standing water.

Two weeks is fine to wait to repot.

If the leaves are totally dried out, then remove them. If they are still green and supple, then leave them, they are working.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 8:31PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

As long as the pot has drainage, you cannot get it too wet! I love Peace. I would wait for an overcast day or give it a lot of shade for a day or two, before you transplant to another pot. Then keep it shaded for a few days after that if it is hot!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 8:33PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

so wonderful

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 8:28PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I know I've seen this before on here but can't remember what the cause was. With as weird as this winter and spring have been we might be seeing a lot of unusual things popping up though.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 4:24PM
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pat_bamaz7

Okay...Thanks, Seil! I'm just going to ignore it unless the rose seems to start suffering.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 5:00PM
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KarenPA_6b

Thank you curdle. I have been bewildered by this for awhile. Thanks for clearing up for me.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 3:19PM
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thedogsLL(6B)

I like bareFoot! They are, right?! ;)

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 3:23PM
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thedogsLL(6B)

I was so excited that I forgot to thank you all again, for convincing me not to dig it up a couple weeks ago!
Lynn T

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 3:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It doesn't matter what brand as long as it's a good light potting mix that will drain well. I've used some with water crystals and others with fertilizers and some just plain potting soil. They all work as long as they drain well. I don't usually get the ones with fertilizer because I prefer to control what kind and how much of that they get but if that's what you find it will work. I've used many different brands. Miracle Grow is good but there are good ones out there that are cheaper.

I know I've stressed a lot about drainage but that's very important. Roses hate to sit with their roots in water. That being said, potted roses will need to be watered more often than roses in the ground. Pots dry out quicker. So it's kind of a catch 22. You don't want the roots to be soggy but you need to make sure they don't dry out either. You have to find the balance that works for you, in your climate and with the roses you purchase.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 10:34PM
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gardenper(8)

There are smaller varieties of roses also, in case the growth size in containers was something that you were concerned about, even though containers do help to control the overall size.

This year, I added miniature roses to my plants-in-containers, and I also saw something at Lowes or HD described as ground-cover roses. They seem to be very low-growing but still put out a great look of roses blooming.

And as for what others said -- I agree, grow what you want to grow! The pot size and your pruning will help keep it in check.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 2:15PM
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jockewing(9a)

Glad to hear that others are trying this and getting results. I have a lot of wood chips left over from the 2 trucks the tree trimmers dumped for me last summer. I put the remainder of that pile in the backyard to cook further, and I have been putting kitchen scraps, coffee grounds and I ground up all my fall leaves and added it to the pile. It is turning black and full of those white and yellow beneficial fungus 'threads'. Every time I scoop out of the pile several giant earthworms can be seen wriggling everywhere.

I have a relatively small yard so I laid the woodchips and horse manure all over the yard--basically anywhere there wasn't lawn. It is turning previously barren areas into soft luscious dirt. This is still the first spring for my roses but they are putting out vigorous growth. I am sort of concerned about one thing--

When I started my initial big rose bed, it was before I discovered the woodchips. I created this bed by layering grass clippings, newspaper, shredded leaves, ground pine bark, some bagged soil, and horse manure. This 'soil' is very rich and is absolutely chock full of worms, but it is ALWAYS wet. I never water it and even after a week of no rain it is still quite moist. Is there too much organic matter? this may all be related to the horrible drainage problem in my backyard. It holds a ton of water every time it rains, but I am almost finished installing a drainage system to hopefully move most of the water from the back to the ditch along the street in the front yard. Maybe this will help to allow the soil to dry out some. Another potential issue is that I have a well in my backyard, and the pipe is located inside the rose bed. I wonder if this is leaking?

My Bronze Star rose is closest to the well pipe and a lot of the leave have been yellowing and falling off. But I don't know if these are just the old leaves from last year just giving up. It is the leaves closest to the bottom. The new leaves seem fine and the plant is blooming.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2014 at 4:03PM
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gardenper(8)

This is one reason I prefer the wood mulches over the rubber or artificial mulches. Over time, I have to replenish, but that is because the mulch is replenishing nutrients to the soil, for which I'm glad.

Now I had not thought of it as "Back to Eden" style, but yes, I add mulch to the rose area or landscaping every year also. When I dig to put in new plants, I see how nice and moist the ground is. It's always moist, black and I always see worms even in the first few spades or shovels of dirt.

So I'm definitely sold on annually mulching or in this case, using the method of "Back to Eden".

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 1:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Suckers would be root stock that has come up on a grafted rose or an own root rose that sends up a shoot from the roots at some distance from the main plant.

I think Mad has it right. That's the graft sending up new canes from below ground.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 11:05AM
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charleney(8a PNW)

Wow that gives me even more hope for my OLD OLD Peace rose.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2014 at 1:24PM
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