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Icebergs! Yes!! How funny...... so ubiquitous they've become invisible to me.
Put n big, fat, tall green something in pots, iceberg between the pots. Wonder if they'd object to the jasmine at their feet. Be a pretty combo.
:) Will post once it's done. You have helped me!
No fertilizer. Wait until after you plant it, and after it blooms to apply any fertilizer.
If you expect a good rain tomorrow, then sit the plant out and let the rain water the plant. If not, then make sure to water the plant well. Make sure that the holes in the pot are open, don't sit it in a saucer or anything where the pot can sit in standing water.
Two weeks is fine to wait to repot.
If the leaves are totally dried out, then remove them. If they are still green and supple, then leave them, they are working.
As long as the pot has drainage, you cannot get it too wet! I love Peace. I would wait for an overcast day or give it a lot of shade for a day or two, before you transplant to another pot. Then keep it shaded for a few days after that if it is hot!
It doesn't matter what brand as long as it's a good light potting mix that will drain well. I've used some with water crystals and others with fertilizers and some just plain potting soil. They all work as long as they drain well. I don't usually get the ones with fertilizer because I prefer to control what kind and how much of that they get but if that's what you find it will work. I've used many different brands. Miracle Grow is good but there are good ones out there that are cheaper.
I know I've stressed a lot about drainage but that's very important. Roses hate to sit with their roots in water. That being said, potted roses will need to be watered more often than roses in the ground. Pots dry out quicker. So it's kind of a catch 22. You don't want the roots to be soggy but you need to make sure they don't dry out either. You have to find the balance that works for you, in your climate and with the roses you purchase.
There are smaller varieties of roses also, in case the growth size in containers was something that you were concerned about, even though containers do help to control the overall size.
This year, I added miniature roses to my plants-in-containers, and I also saw something at Lowes or HD described as ground-cover roses. They seem to be very low-growing but still put out a great look of roses blooming.
And as for what others said -- I agree, grow what you want to grow! The pot size and your pruning will help keep it in check.
Glad to hear that others are trying this and getting results. I have a lot of wood chips left over from the 2 trucks the tree trimmers dumped for me last summer. I put the remainder of that pile in the backyard to cook further, and I have been putting kitchen scraps, coffee grounds and I ground up all my fall leaves and added it to the pile. It is turning black and full of those white and yellow beneficial fungus 'threads'. Every time I scoop out of the pile several giant earthworms can be seen wriggling everywhere.
I have a relatively small yard so I laid the woodchips and horse manure all over the yard--basically anywhere there wasn't lawn. It is turning previously barren areas into soft luscious dirt. This is still the first spring for my roses but they are putting out vigorous growth. I am sort of concerned about one thing--
When I started my initial big rose bed, it was before I discovered the woodchips. I created this bed by layering grass clippings, newspaper, shredded leaves, ground pine bark, some bagged soil, and horse manure. This 'soil' is very rich and is absolutely chock full of worms, but it is ALWAYS wet. I never water it and even after a week of no rain it is still quite moist. Is there too much organic matter? this may all be related to the horrible drainage problem in my backyard. It holds a ton of water every time it rains, but I am almost finished installing a drainage system to hopefully move most of the water from the back to the ditch along the street in the front yard. Maybe this will help to allow the soil to dry out some. Another potential issue is that I have a well in my backyard, and the pipe is located inside the rose bed. I wonder if this is leaking?
My Bronze Star rose is closest to the well pipe and a lot of the leave have been yellowing and falling off. But I don't know if these are just the old leaves from last year just giving up. It is the leaves closest to the bottom. The new leaves seem fine and the plant is blooming.
This is one reason I prefer the wood mulches over the rubber or artificial mulches. Over time, I have to replenish, but that is because the mulch is replenishing nutrients to the soil, for which I'm glad.
Now I had not thought of it as "Back to Eden" style, but yes, I add mulch to the rose area or landscaping every year also. When I dig to put in new plants, I see how nice and moist the ground is. It's always moist, black and I always see worms even in the first few spades or shovels of dirt.
So I'm definitely sold on annually mulching or in this case, using the method of "Back to Eden".
I think the black canes are from cold damage. It could have happened at the store or at your home. You mention 2 varieties so the 2nd one may have been more resistant to the cold or you got it later when temps were warmer.
Definitely cut them off, otherwise it seems to travel down the cane and make the entire cane go bad. Some say about 1" below the black part to where you have a healthy stem (inside the stem should look healthy also).
I had this happen this year, before knowing about the frost damage. My bare-root had about 6 canes coming out and I thought I had chosen such a good one, compared to the others that were in the store. But then I lost 4 of them before understanding what this is.
So I was down to 2 canes but like many plants, as long as the roots or crown are good, then your plant will return just fine -- in some cases, even better.
I also had another different variety already established in my yard, so while I had roses growing outdoors for many years, I had not experienced this kind of frost damage, so it was new to me. It could also be, as you said, one that is more established already.
Sammy, try taking a cutting. My Weeping China Doll rooted easily.
I have one as a standard in the front yard and the cutting. I plan on putting the cutting in a fairly large plastic pot inside of a green ceramic pot on the patio. I think it will look nice cascading over the sides of the pot.
aquaeyes - Red, Oranges, yellows. They all look terrible in pictures to me.
No good camera. Just my phone. And clever manipulation of its settings and the lighting to try and capture the truest colour.
Canadian rose - Black baccara can be truly black. Though I have to say I've seen photos as of late where it's quite the opposite in their yard. It seems to appear just as any other red would here.
But in my yard out seems to be striving to achieve its blackest black.
Gorgeous isn't it?
I was looking at it in the light of the sunrise, and thought I would snap a picture.
It's lost much of its black, and has taken on the very dark red tone.
It should remain this colour.
But I'm pleased to say. I actually managed to capture true to life colours in this photo.
Probably because the bloom had lightened so much.
This post was edited by Ordphien on Fri, Apr 25, 14 at 11:19
Pat -- Those roses are a really nice orange!
I just looked up narrow-leaf zinnias, and I have no idea why our nursery didn't have them -- they sound perfect for our area! They are mildly drought-tolerant and like the sun. They sound like a good companion for marigolds, which also don't like it too wet and like the sun.
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