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Most roses LOVE to grow and bloom! The length of time it takes for them to recycle depends on the variety. Shrubs, polyanthas and floribundas are probably the quickest repeaters but most won't have the exhibition form. Miniatures and Minifloras will repeat quicker than Hybrid Teas or Grandifloras as a rule. As a general rule of thumb an HT will take 6 to 8 weeks to rebloom.


'Aloha' is my best climber in part shade (of course in my zone it doesn't climb; it dies back to 1' in the winter and only gets to 3' tall by fall).
It doesn't need much care, and the blooms have a really nice form and smell nice and last a long time.
Aloha is pink; there's also an Apricot sport called 'Dixieland Linda' that I really want.


Thanks for sharing your roses! I grew Sunsprite many years ago, the color was always so bright and cheerful. You gotta love the floriferous floribundas!
My mother-in-law, now deceased, used to have several older Peace bushes in front of her house. She would tell me that they were the most beautiful rose. I mentally poo-pooed her thinking, never having seen them, in favor of the newer varies pouring out from J & P and other rose breeders in the 1970s. I went to visit her one time when her roses happened to be in bloom. Her Peace roses were magnificent! The color, size, and form were just perfect. Then I knew why Peace was loved by so many. I always meant to put one in my garden, but alas, still haven't...


I'm not sure if this is 100% correct, but when I deadhead, I clip down until I see a new bud swelling at the base of a stipule. Usually, this goes along with "the first set of five leaflets" but sometimes it means further down. In other words, there isn't always a swelling bud at "the first set of five leaflets", and if not, I go down to the second or third.
:-)
~Christopher

First 5-leaflet from the TOP. However, this should not be a firm rule. With young plants, just pulling or snipping the blooms will usually produce the fastest growth--let the rose decide where it wants to grow out. New growth will soon cover the twigginess. Or for maximum neatness, cut above any leaf below the branching structure. Three vs. five doesn't matter.

Bart. can you get Rhapsody in Blue there? It isn't a "bush", but wants to be a semi climber. Here, it halts flowering in high heat (non issue there), otherwise repeating regularly. Great scent and DEEP mauve (violet tones). I initially chose Blue for You because of the "dove gray" tones it was capable of and its continued performance even when triple digits hit; its bush habit as opposed to climbing and its seeming (so far continuing!) freedom from black spot where Rhapsody is supposedly less resistant. However, who knows what it will do with your brands of the fungi? Jiminshermanoaks found it stopped flowering for him when the worst of the heat hit, but after a few years, it seemed to want to continue, so I guess I have to give it a try. Check it out. It might solve your problem. Kim
Here is a link that might be useful: Rhapsody in Blue

Kim, I already do have RinB. It's maybe in it's 3rd year,repeating nicely (but the weather has been quite clement so far; only one week of loathsome heat, and we even got...RAIN!!!!!!!!). For some reason, I don't like it as much as I think I should; a certain lack of delicacy in overall colour effect? not sure,but it doesn't make me almost "swoon" with delight the way Purple Skyliner does,or General Stefanik (too bad that's a once-bloomer. Other favourites: Excellenz Von Schubert, Raymond Privat...I'm trying Lavender Friendship, too, but plants too young still for me to have an opinion.Also, this Rosengarten Zweibrucken looks like a winner,colour-wise at least,but again, plants too young for me to form a real opinion. Instead, I think Perennial Blue may end up as a candidate for The Shovel. Healthy and vigorous, but the flowers lasted so briefly and were fried and ugly-ish; kind of stunted even...and the temperatures were basically pretty moderate here, by recent standards.
There are still so many on my wish list,especially if you start counting the once-bloomers... bart



It's been in the low to high eighties which is pleasant in the shade but in the sun after a few minutes it feels like 105. I can only garden in the evenings and then there's never enough daylight to do much except watering. No rain of course, and the drought conditions make for a blah garden. Wish we could siphon off water from the places that have more than they want or need!
Ingrid

It has been in the high 80's here by the Great Lakes, too hot! The air is like burning, feel like melting as soon as you step outside, riding scooter is no longer cool, zooming under the burning sun....... I want the ice-age back today. :-) Love the weather in the 70's. Gardening at night, it should be in the 60's under the moonlight.

It sounds to me more like winter damage. The canes are healthy enough to leaf out, but not healthy enough to produce healthy leaves and flowers. The remedy is pretty much the same though. Prune it out. However, the description doesn't match either or the two common rootstocks.
Pictures would help us come to a definitely conclusion.

It the non-flowering canes are rootstock, they would have grown from underground this season and would still be growing vigorously without setting flower buds. You would probably see differences in the leaves apart from size and color--different shape or number of leaflets, different degree of gloss. In this case do as Seil said.
If they are winter-damaged canes of the (original) scion variety, they would be old canes from last year that are not supporting good growth this season. Leaves could be paler, smaller and bunchier than normal. The canes would produce short stems that go blind (stop growing without setting a flower bud). In this case, just prune the canes to the ground as Mad Gallica said.





There are a lot of roses that change color with the temperatures and amount of sunlight. Some of them can do so dramatically like Double Delight. Those are called "phototropic". Here are 4 photos of the same bloom on my Double Delight taken over one 24 hr period.
And yet another look for Double Delight
(excuse the greetings, lol!)
As you can see it has many faces.
A lot of people will tell you that their fall roses seem more vibrant in color because of the cooler temps. Many others will tell you how their roses can be pale images of their normal selves in the high heat of summer. There are MANY roses that will do this to some degree or another. It's perfectly normal and, for me anyway, is part of their charm!
Thanks Seil for posting those beautiful pictures. I wish I knew what rose mine is & that I had a camera to send pictures with. Unfortunately, the people who have iphones that could take some pictures I rarely see. Sigh..... Anyway, these particular roses always open with a myriad of colors, Yellow, medium orange & rimmed with a deep orange. As they open more, the get lighter, but never went from all yellow to all cantaloupe. Pretty though.