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seil zone 6b MI

I understand that for you, Lynn, but our January thaw is usually only one day at maybe 50 so I never touch anything until April at the earliest. This year it's really late though.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 7:42PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Seil ...

The buds won't swell in one or two days ... lol. I usually don't prune until April. However, this year, the forsythia had come and gone before the first of April. Spring came a month early to my mountains.

I am just doing a very light prune this year as I don't want to encourage new growth because of the drought.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 12:05AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lol, this is why I gave up on ground markers and started wiring the tags on to the base of the plants. I can't tell you how many markers got lost before I came to this new method. I found some copper tags on line and I just use a PTouch labeler to print the name and stick it on the copper tag. Then I use a nice long piece of green twist tie to secure it to one of the canes. Don't tie it tightly because you don't want to injure the cane but it's worked very well for me. I haven't lost a tag since doing this.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 5:39PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

Good idea Seil. It was just so cheap to do. Now I know a whole lot better.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 11:02PM
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nastarana(5a)

Fields of the Wood is, as you say, harborrose, available from three reputable vendors.

Is it certain that all the Brownell HTs are virused? What a shame, and, really, not much excuse for that negligence.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 7:49PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I just planted my new 'Fields of the Wood' yesterday. It was about 18" tall and ordered from Rogue Valley. It was a nice looking plant.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 9:19PM
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minflick(9b/7, Boulder Creek, CA)

So, after toughing it through our cold snap in early December, housed only in the gallon pot, Kim's little beauty has burst into bloom today. Pretty little thing, isn't it?!

Melinda

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 6:57PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Yes, it is! I like that shade of pink in particular. It's gotten good sized. Is that where you're going to plant it?

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 7:40PM
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dani33

Beautiful roses! I am in zone 6 & I am looking for a lavender/purple rose that is disease resistant, fragrant & can survive our New England winters. Am I dreaming or is there a rose that fits that description? Ty :)

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 8:49AM
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

"MUCH better than Stinky Babs" Kim

LOL, don't make me come down there, Kim. I LOVE my Bab's here. But you're right--NEPTUNE is a REALLY good one in my garden!
Thanks for sharing your photos of this delightful rose with us, Jim_in_AV , and harryshoe!!

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 5:39PM
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henryinct

If you water enough they will all look good all summer. You simply have to water. Even now it can take a lot of water to keep them fresh if it gets too hot. Back east I cut them down because of the insect pests primarily oriental beetles that destroyed everything anyway.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 3:58PM
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martinca_gw

Thamk you both! As for water, perhaps I rely too much on the auto watering thats's for grass , trees, etc. I will be vigilant this season to hand water root area daily, along with a good spray for any diseases. I only have twelve (thus far!), so easy to do. As for nutrients, I've only used Bayer and Miracle Grow. Adding small bit of coffee grounds this year. My only really tall bush is Gene Bourner...a 7-8 footer. Oh! I once read ( here?) that cutting long stems ( at the 3 leaf juncture) delays blooms. True?
Again, TIA !!
P.s. all my roses are rated excellent for disease resistance.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 4:42PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

First off, don't necessarily give up hope on all the roses. Some might start growing late. Different roses can have different growing rates.

Secondly, if there is growth near the base, prune back to where there is healthy growth. Then water and feed as usual. Right now--unless you are in some extremely northern zone where there is still freezing weather forcasted.

(What gardening zone are you in? It would help us direct more specific advice for your roses.)

Let us know in about one month how things are going. I'll bet you will have good things to report.

Kate

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 10:35AM
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henry_kuska

I would be reluctant to recommend adding any fertilizer. Water, of course, is required, but be careful not to to overwater.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 3:59PM
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picea(6A Cinci- Oh)

I think I am going to wait another week or 2 then cut them hard and fertilize them heavy. Since they are grown on their own roots the new growth should not be effected by this winter. I am very surprised at how hard all varieties of knockout have been effected though.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 2:57PM
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picea(6A Cinci- Oh)

I think I am going to wait another week or 2 then cut them hard and fertilize them heavy. Since they are grown on their own roots the new growth should not be effected by this winter. I am very surprised at how hard all varieties of knockout have been effected though.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 3:12PM
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motherjan(z5 N.E. OHIO)

I just received one from Direct Gardening and it looks very much alive. I have put it in water and will put it in a large container. I think it will look wonderful. Will let you know later.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 1:44PM
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motherjan(z5 N.E. OHIO)

I also ordered one from QVC-Cottage Farms. It is due here on the30th of this month. We shall see the difference.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 1:48PM
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dizzylizzy415

Thanks Socks,
I can move the plant around (morning sun on right side of deck and afternoon sun left) if I can just be diligent about it. I am hopeful. Hope you get the mildew under control.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 10:53AM
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trospero(8)

I never met an 'Iceberg' that didn't Blackspot badly. It has a lot to do with climate, of course....

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 1:40PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

It looks like 'Iceberg' alright. After this set of flowers finish, cut off about 2' from each stem--leave the plant a rounded shape. In about six weeks, it will be full of flowers again. Great plant. Enjoy!

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 12:20AM
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satwell

Thanks for all the responses! I don't think any of the canes are bending so badly that they're likely to break. But I'll keep an eye on them. And I'll definitely cut off extra when it's time to deadhead.

Here's a closer picture of the suspected iceberg.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 9:47AM
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noseometer...7A...ABQ

Late to the thread, but at my old house, Madame Isaac Pereire from an Heirloom band grew to about a foot the first year, about 2 feet the second year and over 5 feet tall and wide the third year, very bushy and not the long graceful canes I was hoping for. She was planted on a west wall, with about 6 hours of sun a day. A perfect example of 'First they sleep, then they creep, then they leap.' I took her out because she took over the space, and the flowers came out just when the summer heat arrived, and I only had crispy little balls of magenta unless I cut them in the morning. I should have just figured a way to give her some afternoon shade.

Here is a link that might be useful: Garden at the Modern House

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 1:57PM
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kutekaos

Thank you for responding, actually MIP is doing well in that spot with very little sun. She is about 3ft now and has some blooms that haven't bloomed yet. Its the Prince that has given me one bloom since being planted next to her in a corner spot. Burgundy Iceburg and Stormy Weather bloomed well for me in the shaded area as well.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 11:43PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I'm glad to hear it's working out well for you! I may have to try that on a few of mine when I can finally get out there and work on them.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 6:55PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

Yeah....I was afraid , but figured I had nothing to lose. But I just ordered 6 more roses anyway. Most were austins own root. Will check in again later

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 12:17PM
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henry_kuska

The roses themselves will chase them away.

"Abstract

In warm weather, Macrosiphum rosae (L.) walks off buds of hydrid tea roses during a 'critical period' coinciding with the opening of the sepals. This behaviour could not be related to histologically detectable barriers to feeding, nor to changes in the water content of the tissues or in their composition with respect to total soluble carbohydrate, amino nitrogen or phenolic compounds; major changes in tissue chemistry, effected by spraying the bushes with urea, did not affect the time at which the aphids left the buds.

'Tissue sap' expressed from stems and sepals showed a significant increase in catechin content after rather than during the critical period. Once expressed, however, sap from buds at the critical stage showed a sharp in vitro rise in catechin content over a few hours, up to levels approximating those against which the insects discriminated in choice tests. It is proposed that the insects could well be sensitive to a developing capacity of tissue to accumulate catechin, possibly in response to their feeding activity."

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 10:57AM
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HollyKline

Yep. Adding to the Get Ladybugs vote. . .I get them every year, and they do a wonderful job of clearing out the aphids before they can become a real problem. Spider mites, too. Amazon has them. Make a small spray bottle with 1/2 Coke and water, and spray it on the ladybugs to keep them from flying away. It'll wear off in a day or so. Also, do keep them in the fridge at least a couple of hours before the release, and release at dusk. The fridge will make them sleepy, and they'll wake up in your garden to eat.

This post was edited by HollyKline on Sun, Apr 20, 14 at 10:53

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 10:49AM
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kidhorn(7a MD)

I would put them in the ground by the end of this weekend. Do what mad gallica says and if the canes aren't waxed and you have something like wilt-pruf, spray it on the roses just to be safe..

I think they'll be fine.

This post was edited by kidhorn on Fri, Apr 18, 14 at 13:35

    Bookmark     April 18, 2014 at 1:34PM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

I've gotten bare roots in the past that broke dormancy. Just plant as soon as you can. I've also dosed them with B1 to help the roots lessen the shock a bit and never had a problem. Just make sure to water them deeply after they are in the ground and keep an eye on them over the next few weeks, if we get a good rain with a few cloudy days, I feel like it helps them establish as well.

Also I asked for the shipment earlier than the vendors preferred but that way I could control when to plant.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 9:07AM
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