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If you water enough they will all look good all summer. You simply have to water. Even now it can take a lot of water to keep them fresh if it gets too hot. Back east I cut them down because of the insect pests primarily oriental beetles that destroyed everything anyway.
Thamk you both! As for water, perhaps I rely too much on the auto watering thats's for grass , trees, etc. I will be vigilant this season to hand water root area daily, along with a good spray for any diseases. I only have twelve (thus far!), so easy to do. As for nutrients, I've only used Bayer and Miracle Grow. Adding small bit of coffee grounds this year. My only really tall bush is Gene Bourner...a 7-8 footer. Oh! I once read ( here?) that cutting long stems ( at the 3 leaf juncture) delays blooms. True?
Again, TIA !!
P.s. all my roses are rated excellent for disease resistance.
First off, don't necessarily give up hope on all the roses. Some might start growing late. Different roses can have different growing rates.
Secondly, if there is growth near the base, prune back to where there is healthy growth. Then water and feed as usual. Right now--unless you are in some extremely northern zone where there is still freezing weather forcasted.
(What gardening zone are you in? It would help us direct more specific advice for your roses.)
Let us know in about one month how things are going. I'll bet you will have good things to report.
Kate
I think I am going to wait another week or 2 then cut them hard and fertilize them heavy. Since they are grown on their own roots the new growth should not be effected by this winter. I am very surprised at how hard all varieties of knockout have been effected though.
I think I am going to wait another week or 2 then cut them hard and fertilize them heavy. Since they are grown on their own roots the new growth should not be effected by this winter. I am very surprised at how hard all varieties of knockout have been effected though.
Thanks for all the responses! I don't think any of the canes are bending so badly that they're likely to break. But I'll keep an eye on them. And I'll definitely cut off extra when it's time to deadhead.
Here's a closer picture of the suspected iceberg.
Late to the thread, but at my old house, Madame Isaac Pereire from an Heirloom band grew to about a foot the first year, about 2 feet the second year and over 5 feet tall and wide the third year, very bushy and not the long graceful canes I was hoping for. She was planted on a west wall, with about 6 hours of sun a day. A perfect example of 'First they sleep, then they creep, then they leap.' I took her out because she took over the space, and the flowers came out just when the summer heat arrived, and I only had crispy little balls of magenta unless I cut them in the morning. I should have just figured a way to give her some afternoon shade.
Here is a link that might be useful: Garden at the Modern House
Thank you for responding, actually MIP is doing well in that spot with very little sun. She is about 3ft now and has some blooms that haven't bloomed yet. Its the Prince that has given me one bloom since being planted next to her in a corner spot. Burgundy Iceburg and Stormy Weather bloomed well for me in the shaded area as well.
The roses themselves will chase them away.
"Abstract
In warm weather, Macrosiphum rosae (L.) walks off buds of hydrid tea roses during a 'critical period' coinciding with the opening of the sepals. This behaviour could not be related to histologically detectable barriers to feeding, nor to changes in the water content of the tissues or in their composition with respect to total soluble carbohydrate, amino nitrogen or phenolic compounds; major changes in tissue chemistry, effected by spraying the bushes with urea, did not affect the time at which the aphids left the buds.
'Tissue sap' expressed from stems and sepals showed a significant increase in catechin content after rather than during the critical period. Once expressed, however, sap from buds at the critical stage showed a sharp in vitro rise in catechin content over a few hours, up to levels approximating those against which the insects discriminated in choice tests. It is proposed that the insects could well be sensitive to a developing capacity of tissue to accumulate catechin, possibly in response to their feeding activity."
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
Yep. Adding to the Get Ladybugs vote. . .I get them every year, and they do a wonderful job of clearing out the aphids before they can become a real problem. Spider mites, too. Amazon has them. Make a small spray bottle with 1/2 Coke and water, and spray it on the ladybugs to keep them from flying away. It'll wear off in a day or so. Also, do keep them in the fridge at least a couple of hours before the release, and release at dusk. The fridge will make them sleepy, and they'll wake up in your garden to eat.
This post was edited by HollyKline on Sun, Apr 20, 14 at 10:53
I would put them in the ground by the end of this weekend. Do what mad gallica says and if the canes aren't waxed and you have something like wilt-pruf, spray it on the roses just to be safe..
I think they'll be fine.
This post was edited by kidhorn on Fri, Apr 18, 14 at 13:35
I've gotten bare roots in the past that broke dormancy. Just plant as soon as you can. I've also dosed them with B1 to help the roots lessen the shock a bit and never had a problem. Just make sure to water them deeply after they are in the ground and keep an eye on them over the next few weeks, if we get a good rain with a few cloudy days, I feel like it helps them establish as well.
Also I asked for the shipment earlier than the vendors preferred but that way I could control when to plant.
That looks great Christopher. You are going to be rewarded for your hard work with great soil and roses.
One of the dead roses I had to dig up was in a spot I've been amending with just compost and mulch for a few years. The previous red clay was more like fluffy cake mix when I dug into it. It was so nice......
My mulch is so beautiful.....About 5 or so yards of horse manure in my driveway. Will wait to spread till after kiddies have Easter Egg hunt. It smells like roses to me. But to some of the Mommies it may not. Best gift, I have gotten in years. Wow! Am I just dancing. Yeah it will bring up a few weeds, but I am prepared for them.
We have plenty of moisture being in PNW, but I still like 3 to 4 in. down.
Love to you all, you MULCHERS!
You can cut back to the graft (if it's grafted) or to the root ball. This winter was very hard on my roses and even after pruning off what I thought was all the dead stuff, I would see new brown and black on canes that looked healthy before. Just keep cutting back until you see white pith (the filling in side the cane. Anything brown or black or reddish should come off. Roses are very resilient. Some that I cut down to nothing a few weeks ago pumped out new growth and have buds already.
I cut a Tropicana down as far as I could, thinking to dig it out since it's such a miserable mildew magnet. I did not have the strength to dig it and just left it to rot in the ground, which of course it did not do. Instead it sprouted healthy new growth. It's not sucker growth either, its Tropicana. Give it a try.
jasminerose, that's such a gorgeous picture. Would you please tell me the name of these beautiful roses? It looks somewhat like Annie Laurie McDonnell, but of course there are umpteen fluffy pink roses. The lilac-pink colored roses and blue vase are perfect partners.
Ingrid
Thank you, Kate. Went to the nursery today to buy Bacto soil for the bare roots that are ordered. Well, didn't the potted roses arrive? Just planted a Sterling Silver and a, hmmm, Dark Night. I hope that's the name of it. Jeez, old age must be setting in.
Scott
Beautiful roses! I am in zone 6 & I am looking for a lavender/purple rose that is disease resistant, fragrant & can survive our New England winters. Am I dreaming or is there a rose that fits that description? Ty :)
"MUCH better than Stinky Babs" Kim
LOL, don't make me come down there, Kim. I LOVE my Bab's here. But you're right--NEPTUNE is a REALLY good one in my garden!
Thanks for sharing your photos of this delightful rose with us, Jim_in_AV , and harryshoe!!