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henryinct

Years ago I did the same thing. Pile on some good soil so that the graft is buried one inch such that the mound has a bowl in the middle. Then put on 1-2 inches of mulch.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 9:41PM
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henry_kuska

If you can bend one of the canes so that that part of the cane can buried for several inches, it wiil form roots at that point. See:

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/hil-8701.html

Here is a link that might be useful: link for layering article

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 9:52PM
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boncrow66

I have planted some virigated vinca in between my roses. It spreads but isn't invasive and has pretty lavender flowers.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 3:24PM
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farmerduck

I used various hardy low-growing genarniums (e.g, Geranium Rozanne) and ceroposes (e.g., Mercury Rising) and lots and losts of laveders to fill in the empty spot between my roses. It has worked well for me so far (about two years) as none of these appears to an agressive competitor to the roses. (The bonus point is that they are supposed to be "deer proof"/"deer resistant" although "my" deer seem to eat anyting and everything when hungry....) I have a very small gardening space (thanks to the roaming deer) so I try to fit in as many plants as possible in my fenced front yard. I dislike mulch as space fillers, but my ideal garden could be a weedy eyesore for those more organized.. This year, I am adding chives among the roses, which is supposed to repell pests.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 4:29PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Let us know Susan how it works for you. Good luck!!

Oh too bad redwolf. Maybe you could play paint with the white stuff. Paint a happy face on your hand. Make it "talk" etc. Then paint one on her hand. Don't make any notice of the splinter. In fact do a face on each of your hands and each of hers (starting with the nonsplintered hand). You could maybe even put in some food coloring in it so that it doesn't look white - then maybe she won't connect it with the first white stuff. Hope you can get it out this way for her. :)

Redribbons - yes make sure you have baking soda for the thorns.

Seil - it's STILL snowing. :(
Carol

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 2:39AM
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charleney(8a PNW)

Is it baking powder or soda, or both together?

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 1:51PM
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seil zone 6b MI

We were down into the low 20s two nights running and snow on Tuesday morning. Probably in the 30s tonight. I really hope this is the last of it!

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 6:54PM
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erasmus_gw

The dry cleaner bags are probably the most lightweight plastic. I might try that sometime, thanks.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 11:57AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Just snap or rub them off with your fingers. The plants will grow new shoots, no problem. There is a good reason to remove them. They are using carbohydrates stored in the canes rather than getting their nutrients from the root system and sunlight (because the root system isn't doing anything right now), so they are stressing the canes a bit.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 10:58AM
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redribbons

It looks a lot like Mr. Lincoln to me.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 7:14PM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Is this a climber, handg? If so, could it be Crimson Glory, Climbing?

Here is a link that might be useful: Full photo

    Bookmark     April 17, 2014 at 1:55AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Beth - I received my Hortico order yesterday, also. Frederic Mistral, Alec's Red and Peter Mayle. They look healthy, but compared to Palatine, big difference. Mine looked like it had been opened too, but they were well packed. I was wondering how much difference overall the plant size makes? I was expecting them to be on the small side, so that wasn't a surprise. However, the International fees I was charged totaled around $14.00, they were less than a $1.00 each on Palatine and Pickering orders.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 3:27PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Still waiting on Hortico. What a HORRIBLE place to do business. I only ordered because I couldn't find the roses I wanted anywhere else.
Palatine roses are HUGE. Pickerings were lousy this year. Have one Chandos Beauty that is dead. The rest were pretty pitiful.
I will let you know if I get an order....
Susan

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 9:02PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I don't want any visitors to my garden! The rabbits are bad enough. There are supposed to be coyotes ranging along the lake shore here but I've never seen any. There's been a big uproar about it because of people's pets but for my money they're welcome to all the rabbits,squirrels and other vermin they can catch! We do have some hawks around once in a while too. Really cool to see one land in one of my trees!

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 7:03PM
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andreark

The wild life is as beautiful as our roses.

Last year I thought I heard a massive dog fight going on. Scared the life out of me. I ran to all of my second floor windows trying to find out where they were so I could TRY to do something. But I couldn't see them anywhere. THEN, I LOOKED UP ON MY NEIGHBORS ROOF, AND IF WAS COVERED WITH TURKEYS.
What a wonderful racket they made. My pups just ran around in
circles and barked....They were very confused!

Have a great spring all.

andreark

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 7:09PM
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henryinct

This is not the time of year for beetles in most of the country. In CT I never sprayed because it didn't work and I didn't want to kill the honey bees. Here in Pasadena right now we have no beetles so I wonder what you are talking about. Perhaps you could describe these beetles.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 3:28PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Without a picture of the insect in question there is no way to correctly ID it. Without a positive ID there is no way we can tell you how to deal with it.

Do not just use insect spray without knowing what insect you have. You may be wasting your time and money on a product not meant for the problem at hand. And you may be killing your predators as others have said. That will only lead to a greater problem down the road.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 6:49PM
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henryinct

Back in CT I pruned as early as late February and as late as mid April. Do it before they start to sprout and you probably will have to do it again later anyway. When you do it too soon you sometimes don't know what is dead and what isn't and if you do it too late you have to cut off new growth on canes that aren't worth keeping. If the forsythia is blooming in z6 that is a month late and about as late as I remember it ever blooming in z6b sw CT. I would do the pruning no matter how cold it is.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 5:03PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Go for it! If the forsythia and grass are growing the roses will be too. I don't think this cold snap will last long before it goes back to spring temps and your roses will be all ready to take off.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 6:27PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Listen to hoov and be patient. It's been a really nasty winter for us and the roses. The soil is taking much longer to warm than usual and the roots can't support new top growth until they can easily absorb and send water and nutrients up to keep it going. The larger the plant the more energy that takes and I'm betting your Cecile is a good size after six year. Make sure you prune off any dead cane or tip die back and then wait for the weather to catch things up.

    Bookmark     April 15, 2014 at 12:29PM
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trospero(8)

I have a 15 year old specimen of Mlle. Cecile, large enough to hide a small house under. This year, 90% of the canes are dead, thanks to the Polar Vortex. What few canes survived, I will leave till after (IF) they flower and then cut the whole mess down and make it start over. I expect you will find you have to do the same. If it hasn't leafed out by now, its not likely going to. This rose doesn't tolerate temps as low as what we got this year.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 11:16AM
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alameda/zone 8

Mine is growing in a round flowerbed around a birdhouse. Right now, it is smothered in poppies - once they bloom and are pulled out, I can tell more. Seems to be a pretty tough rose - it might need a bit more sun, and I might repot it to give it some extra care. I have Chipmonk growing in a pot, has been for a few years - is blooming now, very healthy. I love these mauve/tan roses too. Were it me, think I would pot it in good soil in a nice sized pot, give it good morning, early afternoon sun and wait for it to grow a bit. Good luck!
Judith

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 2:52AM
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susan4952(5)

waited two years for this rose. this is her second spring in the ground. She did well last summer and appears to have survived our winter. got to about 15 inches. i have her in full morning sun, dappled afternnon. i love the color, too. i will post a pic when she blooms.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 10:08AM
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boncrow66

Wascally wabbits

    Bookmark     April 14, 2014 at 3:36PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Rabbits chewed most of our young own root roses to the ground the winter before last. They all came back.

I started putting wire fencing around them during the winter time and they have been leaving them alone.

Had to laugh though when the snow got deep this winter and I forgot to remove the snow around the roses and I looked out one day and rabbits were walking on top of the snow which was higher than my wire fencing and rabbits were munching... So had to keep the snow cleared away after that...lol

I just took this pic a few minutes ago...

    Bookmark     April 16, 2014 at 9:35AM
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charleney(8a PNW)

I really think the organics do help a lot. Good luck!

    Bookmark     April 15, 2014 at 4:56PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Patience and organics, a winning combo! Glad it's coming back for you!

    Bookmark     April 15, 2014 at 7:16PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Depends on how hungry the deer may be .... I have actually seen them jumping up to grab stuff way over their heads for something to eat.

It's probably best that when you build your deer protection at the base of the plant, to make it as wide and tall as you can. I have actually had roses use my deer cages for support as they continued to climb.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark     April 15, 2014 at 12:59PM
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deervssteve(9)

My cages are free standing and not attached to the ground.
Deer would have a hard time climbing and are too stupid to push them over.

    Bookmark     April 15, 2014 at 3:28PM
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