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(Expletive), who'd a thunk that Chili Thrips would get to San Antonio that fast?

Sorry for y'all.

Urg. They must be on their way here then. :/

I do not have an answer for you but I sure do wish you better luck with the new ones you planted and hopefully the ones you pruned grow back much better!

I think for us in the SE, it was the combination of the cool wet summer we had and then the brutal winter. Everyone I know has lost not only roses, but all kinds of shrubs. On of my neighbors has a nice bed of hollies that have not come back. Usually these don't even lose their leaves.

I hear you about the Dr Huey roots. I had to dig up some dead roses and the roots (which were alive and well) were HUGE. I am sure I didn't get them all and will be fighting off suckers for awhile.

I have 5 new tree roses on my back deck and I noticed all 5 of them have half eaten holes on the leaves. I've read here it's the cutter bees doing the damage. I sprayed something on the trees for insects so now I'm worried I may have hurt the bee and given it poison to take back to the nest. Any answers for me?

>> what I wouldn't give to have a leaf cutter this year. ... VERY few bees. I plant a few things to bring them in

Some sources say they can be enticed to stay around by supplying housing like one would do for mason bees.

Thanks, everyone!

Jazzmom -- Here are my own roots, all of the others on the first list were grafted.

did NOT survive

Raspberry Cream Twirl Climber (really surprising since it had almost no winter die back the previous year)
Nicola Parade mini
Promise
Natasha Monet

DID make it :)

Denali (weak)
Steppin' Out (weak)
Memoriam
Pope John Paul II
Candyland
mini pink Kordana
Baby Paradise
Cupcake
Cafe Ole
Green/White Victory grocery store potted rose
Lagerfeld
Peppermint Parfait
Hot pink kordana mini
multiple pink grocery store minis
Vulcano Kordana mini
Smile Kordana mini
Irish Cream (tiny band from Burlington that survived in ground, very surprised!!)
Rainbow (weak)
Grimaldi
Henri Matisse
Dick Clark
Julio Iglesias (weak)
Headliner
Pop Warner
Harry Wheatcroft (weak)
Michelangelo the Painter
Strawberry Ice
Mexicana (weak)
Gene Boerner (weak)

I lost almost all of my Vintage Garden roses I purchased last year and were stored in my garage. Never before was my garage so cold that water bottles froze solid. WAs always a safe way to protect new roses until this past winter.

Thank you sow_what for the good advice.

I gave up on being overly patient. Their are certain things I expect from a rose or any plant/shrub in our garden so they either perform or they get the ax. Lifes to short.... ;-)

Many garden centers, home improvement stores which have "garden departments", even Dollar Store type outlets sell packages of thin bamboo stakes, usually stained green. They range from a foot to six feet in length, are packaged in plastic bags and sell usually for under $5. Often the shortest lengths contain about a dozen with the longer ones containing six. They're perfect for staking the errant single stems of plants such as you describe. Kim

Unless this is a miniature rose -- or even if it is -- a 10" pot isn't big enough for your rose. And Terra Cotta pots aren't good choices for roses.

It probably won't produce mature growth unless it has some room to grow roots.

Thanks for all the help, folks! That's a good point that the striped roses tend to be variable in color and not to over judge the one bloom, particularly on a brand new band. I'm happy with any descendants of Ferdinand Pichard, Christopher, since I can't seem to keep the parent himself alive in my yard.

So far, there seems to be consensus that Papageno is a good working name for this one. I actually like the prospect of these mystery roses, mgleason, since it could be literally anything in their catalog and it tends to stretch me to try roses I wouldn't normally buy. A few years ago, the mystery rose was "Rookie", a compact short flori/mini white rose, and it really has turned out to be a nice steady bloomer and great bloom form. I probably wouldn't have bought Robin Hood or Sophisticate (from two and three years ago) on their own, but they ramble nicely in the part shade, and they really make a statement in the neighbor's yard where they asked me to expand my shade area into their side of the yard.

You're right that I might be able to ask Rogue Valley, though I find that their phone personnel are lovely people and helpful with orders, but they don't seem to know the details of the roses if they're not labeled. I don't know if Rogue Valley sends mystery plants because the labels have been lost or misplaced in propagation (hence they don't know any more than we do), or because they're overstocked. On my side, it would be more convenient to call these "our choice" rather than "mystery" roses and leave the tags in if it's the latter situation, but I don't mind the unknown for the first year. My only dilemma comes in where to plant something that hasn't bloomed and I have no clue what it is. The unknown mini from this year was easy to place, but I have a vaguely HT looking bush that I had to guess where to put, since I rarely if ever move roses once planted.

Besides, I have all you lovely helpful folks to help me identify the roses each year! I challenge any rose company, except maybe Burlington and the dearly departed Vintage, to have the breadth of expertise in identifying a wide range of roses that we have here on GW!

Cynthia

It looks like PAPAGENO to me too. I'd have to go check and see how many thorns mine has. I don't recall it having very many tho.

Carol, for me the point was having an evocative planting scheme. The emotional experience derived from the composition; not from any single plant. Honey Dijon was like the sofa sized painting that color coordinates with all your living room furniture. Perfect for the setting, but no soul. And I was hesitant to shovel prune Honey because she was so perfect -- how sad. I would have missed the experience of being swept off my feet by a rose that touches my soul.

We're spoiled brats Jim, shovel pruning roses that are good enough. It's such a waste. Why do we do this?

In our intimate relationships, do we settle for someone who is good enough . . . or do we seek head-over-heels in love?

Maybe we need the same magic in our precious personal spaces; for inspiration, for renewal, for the expression of who we are. Or maybe we just need an excuse to go plant shopping.

jannike

I found myself not taking as much attention to the ones that I didn't particularly like. Now that I am paying attention, I find that they are pleasing me so much more. I told myself that I would not have planted them, if they were not beautiful. So in long run, I am now a better rose person for it!

The link below takes one to an abstract that allows one to link to Supplementary Material (1).

The Supplementary Material (1) is a WordPad document that describes the virus symptoms observed for each virused rose that they observed. It would of been nice if they included pictures. but until someone does that for all 17 known rose viruses this is probably the best information available. Also, please notice the number of roses that have more than one infection.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13313-012-0191-x

Here is a link that might be useful: link to abstract - needed to look at supplement

Just a note to everyone. Thank you all so much for your thoughts, ideas, suggestions and knowledge. The rose in question has lots of buds on it now so after reading everything I can, I've decided to keep it as long as I'm happy with its' performance. I'm excited to see the blooms! Again, thank you to each of you who took the time to help me.

Thanks all, I'm learning a lot. What a depressing problem, though. Behind my fence my neighbor is growing roses a few feet away. I'm not sure if she'll treat hers so I worry that this will be a constant battle. Sounds like Bayer is the way to go if I don't just give up rose gardening altogether :/

I also use Bayer Complete Insect Killer, you can get it at Lowe's.