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taboerwinkle

Maryl, have you seen OroGold? That's what I wanted by garden store here only had GM. Gorgeous bright yellow blooms thrived in soutern CA. Hard to duplicate my CA roses in Seattle, rest of garden too, for that matter.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 10:55AM
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steve_gw

A great rose in my top 10. Lots of flowers, great form in both singles and sprays, and some fragrance as well. Needs extra winter protection here in SE WI but well worth it, a good choice for you :)

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 3:15PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Sorry to hear that Jackie. Not a Knock Out Fairy, I just love them. :-) it had a good reason to land in your garden at the first place, if it doesn't work out for your garden, give it to a friend who has a sunny spot, I am sure it will be much happier to be under the sun.. :-) All my Knock Out roses get about 5-6 hours sun. Good luck.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 8:43AM
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jacqueline9CA

Ha! I was just thinking that this is a good opportunity to put one of the old tea roses currently languishing in my pot ghetto in that spot - thanks for the encouragement!

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 1:48PM
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swedeone

Hello Christopher,

Wow, thank you so much for taking your time to share your knowledge with me! I will read the information again and hopefully, have roses that thrive. That is a lot of wonderful information!

Many thanks!

Lisa

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 7:52AM
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swedeone

Hello Ken,

I live in PSL, gardening here is different than up north and I very much appreciate your expertise on Florida and roses. I won't be able to dig anymore, I had to have my landscaper do that but, would it be possible to add pine mulch to the soil about 18 inches down instead? I have pine needles from trees in my yard that I curse every year, haha, but, I put them at the base of the trees and have raised beds around them with what you could call, pine needle compost.

I put garden soil and organic manure compost/soil mix in the trenches, this is a photo of the soil I had in there before I covered just the first inch or so with the sand that was dug out.

And may I ask, have you ever used Epsom salt and/or bone meal when planting bare root at first in the soil? I have read the sandy soil could use some magnesium, I put it around my palm trees and they like it. I'm working on getting my yard landscaped and as nice as I can on my budget and roses always make a yard more beautiful!

The planter on the left has the roses in the soil/compost.

Thank you again!

Lisa

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 8:04AM
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland

I know! I didn't NEED anymore but the SALE! I got Blueberry Hill, Westerland, and Cassie. Couldn't pass it up, ordered gallon size except for Cassie as was out of stock. Had Lyda in my cart and took it out, feeling guilty about the $$ and wasn't sure if I loved the shape of the bloom, but wanted a shade bloomer.... Maybe next year! Love the hydrangeas too :)

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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

Patty I agree with you there. Oh I have not grown Bobo before, it's adorable. Looks like one of the local nurseries I shop at carries them. Might have to pick one up. Hard for me to turn down a hydrangea that stays on the smaller side! Thanks for the suggestion.

Dingo - that is so funny that you got Blueberry Hill... I have put that one in my cart so many times on HR and then I take it out last second. It's such a beautiful rose. Hope you'll report back and let us know how it does for you!

I agree... something that blooms constantly in shade would be impressive! Can't go wrong with a little of both roses & hydrangeas. Well no, a lot of both is what I should say. :P

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 6:30AM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

Oh my goodness, in our August heat it would take three hours every day to water all those pots. When we hit 100 degrees daily watering is necessary. This is the first year I will be doing pot gardening and I know I have to limit my pot numbers because of the watering requirements and yes, today's purchases caused me to exceed that limit so I'm through buying. No more roses this year! I on the other hand call my collection pot paradise.

    Bookmark   March 12, 2015 at 8:51PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks for mentioning it, I will wait for Home Depot/ Lowe's 2 gal. ones, much better than buying a rose band for $20. :-)

    Bookmark   March 15, 2015 at 3:56AM
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seil zone 6b MI

So glad you got it nailed down! Now I'll have to go looking for it, lol!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 3:12PM
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bethnorcal9

Yeah I was pretty sure that's what it was going to be. But, ya never know.... I'm glad you were able to get that positive ID!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 10:46PM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

It is indeed dangerous. I've made two trips this year and will be going back mid April. The rose gardens will be in full flush then and it is a must see. Of course it is absolutely imperative to turn into Chamblee's. It would be a travesty if you didn't make that stop. The good thing is my dear husband will be visiting the gardens with me that trip and he will encourage me to buy more than I would probably get for myself!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 9:52AM
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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

BlueGirl: HEB is indeed giving lots of those roses, and every time I pass through the front I have to control myself not to get one of their roses. XD

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 8:54PM
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the_bustopher z6 MO

Those are some rather spectacular pictures of en masse flowering. Thanks for the look. Got any more?

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 9:40PM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

I have to resurrect this thread again. I found one of those poms and am going to be planting it in the front between me and my neighbor. I think it will be beautiful I did get a variety that has salmon double flowers with a cream edging. Should be very pretty and I am so excited! Would have never known about this tree without the kind folks on this forum! If it gets here in time, the tree should go in on Saturday. YEA!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 7:58PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

But summereve, with this sale, the featured roses are $20 and less. I've found that their bands are so well rooted, they immediately belong in a gallon pot.

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 7:34PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks for letting me know, I will take one more look there. :-)

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 7:38PM
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deervssteve(9)

I have 20 rose bushes; 8 are HT. In March and April, most of the HT get rust, mildew,white flies and Aphids. My plan is to feed the 8 HT with 3 in 1 for two months, everything else regular rose food. If I didn't have the issues, I wouldn't use the product. I tried spot spraying with a squeeze bottle with insecticide or fungicide. When I had 200 roses, I sprayed with an atomist electric sprayer and used a gas mask. 3 in 1 is expensive but I won't be using a lot. My physical abilities are limited and I wanted to be able to look at something beautiful.

Until I planted the 8 HT, I hadn't had any for 25 years. The other roses were only watered and fertilized. I couldn't have HT because of the deer. I wanted to have blooms for most of the season and modern roses are the way to go. They are all caged. I really enjoy my OG roses, but their blooming is sporadic. The approach I am using works for me.

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 11:54AM
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steve_gw

If you're in IL one of the best products to use for black spot is Mancozeb. Sold under product name Bonide. A preventative program is always the best, with a good spraying right after pruning, and weekly or bi-weekly there after....

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 4:29PM
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steve_gw

A friend of mine lives in Palm Springs and has the Climber Butterscotch, its fabulous there!!

Steve...

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 3:59PM
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Marlorena-z8 England-

..I think, if I lived in Palm Springs, and I probably wouldn't say 'no' from Nov-March... then I'd want something other than Austin's, which I can grow quite happily over here...

...I don't know...maybe 'Marechal Niel'...'clg. Lady Hillingdon'... 'Alexander Hill Grey'....?

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 4:00PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Seil have you looked at the Northland Rosarium climbing roses. Since they are zone5 and grow the roses that they sell. She gives information on repeat, health, fragrance and how they grow there. She has some nice ones.

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 8:14AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I know you're right, Patty, and in most winters I will have some surviving canes. What I need to know is that in those "not most" winters the plant itself will survive. And thanks for the tip on Northland. I had forgotten about them and need to go peruse their catalog!

Yes, Mad, I know you're right. Explorers, Explorers, Explorers...but none of them really float my boat as far as blooms are concerned. Most of them are rather ho hum looking. I want big luscious showy blooms!

Thanks, Sara, good info from a kindred zoner! I will check out Celeste's roses.

OK, Kate, will take a look at Ghislaine de Feligonde!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 3:08PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lol, sultry, you are a bad girl! But hey, we've all done it! It looks nice and healthy and the potted ones are usually better than the bagged ones so I'd say good for you!

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 2:49PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Don Juan does pretty well in the heat, but the reflected heat off that patio in the summer will be an issue. Not sure what you can do to solve that.

Our Don Juan is every old and on Doc Huey, he does manage to reach 7 or 8 feet, but stops shortly after that. Maybe if he got more water he would grow more? or maybe not. He is in the ground, near the hose bib and under a lot of mulch.

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 2:56PM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

It looks like Rosa Indica Major to me. Its Chinese name was something sounding like Fun Juan Lo (if you pronounce the J as 'Zh'). This rose was 'discovered' and brought over from China to the West in the early part of the 19th Century. It has had many names and its precise botanic origin is unclear. Being very tough and resilient to heat and drought - though not to cold - and being very easy to root, it has been much used as an understock in warm areas such as South Australia and (apparently) California. It is somewhat prone to mildew, but this doesn't seem to affect overall health if left untreated. It often swamps and then survives the grafted rose, so is a common sight in old neglected gardens here.

It blooms early in spring, with those lovely airy puffballs of ivory irregularly suffused or blotched with pale carmine pink, borne on those similarly airy, gracefully arching canes, for a few weeks only each year. It has been noted that if it were a repeat bloomer, it might rank among the great shrub roses. The scent, to my nose, was only faint.

Whether you want to keep it, and how you want to grow it, is pretty much up to you. I have seen it looking very pretty grown up and over a cottage garden arch. I love its natural fountain shape, however it may produce larger flowers if kept trimmed back. Or you could just take out the oldest, thickest canes at the base each year, immediately after flowering as Jeri and others have said (it doesn't usually set hips). This would keep it a bit smaller without losing its natural graceful shape. Espaliering it against the fence to keep it more 2-dimensional, would be very feasible, maybe still letting it keep its natural curves. If you have room to plant other things in front of it, it should make a nice glossy green background for most of the year, with its annual few weeks of glory to look forward to each spring.

I took mine out (it was here - a rootstock escape - when I bought this house) and I do still miss it...

Comtesse :¬)

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 6:07AM
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jacqueline9CA

Burlingarden - Congratulations! I agree that it is probably 'Rosa Indica Major', a rose which was found in China prior to 1811. If you go to the web site Help Me Find/roses, you will see many pictures of it. Also, you will see that it has 8-10 different names. This happens when roses are so nice & popular that they get re-named all over the many places where they grow. Comtessedelacouche and others above give good advice about pruning it, GENTLY or not at all, and only after it finishes blooming. Tying it up to your fence or on some sort of trellis is also a good idea. Such a beautiful rose!

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 14, 2015 at 9:09AM
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Ruth_9B

Thanks for all the advice. As it happens I'm only moving it a few inches, but to a deeper space and a bit more sun (shade from a nearby bush means a few inches matter). I'll do my best to keep the rootball intact, the roots were very wide originally.

Will wait to fertilize till it comes back and try not to worry ; )

Btw Im in Northern CA, and have a feeling all 3 new roses are a bit too high. I hope the others could be fine with some soil piled up to the bud union.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   March 13, 2015 at 3:49PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

It helps to move them towards evening or in cloudy weather which you probably wouldn't have now. Many people will provide shade while the rose recovers.That could be as simple as a lawn chair. Or shade cloth over a plant support. A product such as wilt proof works well.

    Bookmark   Thanked by Ruth_9B    March 13, 2015 at 5:19PM
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