21,400 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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mirendajean(Donegal, Ireland)

I love the color.

M

    Bookmark   October 12, 2013 at 2:50AM
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windeaux

That IS lovely, bkutz! And Jeri's right, ignore what Amandahugg said about the patent police. That's nonsense. As a matter of fact, you should consider sending photos of the rose to Star Roses. There's a good possibility that THEY might want to purchase the rights to propagate and market this new variety from YOU.

Let's hope that the sport remains stable over time (ie, doesn't readily revert), and that it retains the disease resistance of its sport parent (my guess is that it will).

Congratulations on your find, Bkutz! Keep us posted, okay?

    Bookmark   October 12, 2013 at 7:27AM
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rosespecialist(6b)

Be nice if someone recorded it placed on web.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 6:24PM
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Maryl zone 7a

It's been my experience (unfortunate as it is) that the difference in spray drift from Herbicides and RRD can often be differentiated by the amount of initial damage exhibited. If one lone cane (or a small part thereof) is deformed I usually think RRD. If more then one cane seems to be affected I think of the possibility of Herbicide damage. The next test (although a bit risky) is easy. Cut back the offending cane (canes) and if new growth sprouts with symptomatic foliage it's RRD.....Interestingly enough, I took out an Austin rose this spring that exhibited RRD growth. Further confirmation of its RRD appeared 2 months later when a leftover piece of the root sprouted showing RRD symptoms on even the tiny new leaves. I will not replant in this spot for a couple of years just for this reason - unseen leftover virus infected roots........The plight of the elm tree in America I hope isn't indicative of where roses will be in 50 years. But if the mite can't be widely controlled (including in the wilds), it may be a sad ending to a glorious hobby........Maryl

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 4:07PM
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henry_kuska

maryl, not all herbicide damage is spray drift. Herbicide can also be absorbed by the roots.

Here is a link that might be useful: link to my rose rosette virus web page

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 4:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Welcome back, Ken! Any pictures of those fall beauties?

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 1:54PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Welcome back!
Susan

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 3:31PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I don't have experience with using Wilt Pruf for that purpose, but I can tell you that WP itself can burn rose foliage under some circumstances. Be sure plants are well hydrated, and apply in the cool of the morning. Don't apply to wilting transplants, but apply days in advance of transplanting.

By reducing transpiration, anti-transpirants cause leaves to "run hotter" than they would otherwise, because transpiration cools the leaf. But this is not to say your idea would never work. I really don't know.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 10:07AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I am not seeing the image.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 9:55AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks for the heads up Amberroses. I reserved a few yesterday.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 6:33AM
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amberroses(10a)

I'm not as tempted by Wisconsin roses or any of the Canadian companies because they graft on rootstocks that wouldn't like it here in Florida. Truthfully though, I've even considered trying multiflora rootstock for rare varieties. Maybe I could build a tiny air conditioned greenhouse or put ice cubes on the roots......
I have a rose "problem." :)

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 6:59AM
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nastarana(5a)

Very good blog. I shall try castor oil for the voles this year. Now if only he would come up with a solution for rabbit damage!

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 11:36PM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

Thanks for sharing!

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 5:37AM
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susan4952(5)

My SM is as Harry described. Mine is a standard, one tall bloom ...nothing nearly as spectacular as kitty's. Wow!

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 10:03PM
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shellfleur(z7a Long Island, NY)

Thanks for all the information. Hopefully I will get lucky w my Sugar Moon since one of the things that attracted me was that there were several blooms and a bunch of buds yet to open. And I loved the scent. Today I found a spot for it and will plant it this weekend. I planted my Liv Tyler in a nice, sunny location earlier today. I'm already excited for next spring!

    Bookmark   October 11, 2013 at 12:25AM
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susan4952(5)

I have Harlekin and Nahema in our zone and they do very well for me also. I think our Harlekin would be very pretty with an existing crimson.
Three Weddings is beautiful in our zone, but not great on rebloom. I also love my climbing Abe Darby and SDLM.

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 10:37PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

Throwing in a non-rose climber that you may like for your gazebo, I'd suggest you look into the wisteria 'Blue Moon'. It's a cultivar of one of our native species of wisteria, so no worries about it taking over (or possibly not even being winter-hardy) for you. It also reblooms lightly and intermittently. It might make a nice complimentary climbing companion to whatever roses you select.

Some clematis might be a good idea as well -- many offer blooms during the Summer when many climbing roses aren't doing much.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 11:42PM
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sadie_pnw

hi, Charleney,
I live in the central Puget Sound area and have been here for about 4 years now. I am glad you are feeling better and want to garden.

Like everything else, there is a lot of different advice given on fall pruning that I've read. The Olympic Rose Society recommends cutting back moderns 1/3 about Thanksgiving, but they are a tad bit colder and probably windier than Seattle. I think Olympia is 7b. Other regional ARS groups (Seattle and Tacoma) only mention spring pruning that I've seen. What I come away with from the different opinions is that if you prune your roses now you won't kill them. Likewise, If you don't prune your roses now, you won't lose anything.

Practically speaking, what Lyn mentions, is also what I've read. The leaves transfer their stored sugars into the canes before they drop so if you cut back too much too soon into the moderns, you can possibly cut into their energy reservoir. My leaves (prob zone 8a) haven't ever fully dropped, though, so I am not sure that the transfer is taking place completely. I expect your leaves don't fully drop, either.

But to be safe, what I would do is cut out the dead wood and do some light trimming of thin canes or ones that are going to whip around in the wind and then wait until February or so. You won't hurt anything by waiting and we really might have a very cold winter, in which case the roses might actually need what's in the canes.

Just another opinion! Gean

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 11:06AM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Gean ...

Good to see you posting !

I usually have to wait until the end of March or early April before I can begin to prune. However, my 8a zone is located at a higher elevation than yours and I think we have winter temps longer than you do in your garden.

You are correct in that a modern rose pruned at the wrong time will survive. Mrs. J's roses were deer-pruned for three years before I got them caged. My deer just pruned whenever they wanted to feed on the rose and did not prune correctly. The roses lived in spite of them.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 5:09PM
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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

Well I'm sorry to have doubted y'all if it's that apparent! I will have to consider moving this at some point. Glad to have an idea of what we have.

I could possibly train it up a Coral Tree if/when it gets large enough in its current location. The Coral Tree has been on the removal list for a few years, but I don't know how keen my mother is to have it removed.

There's also a red/pink striped rose she got from Home Depot this year that I cannot identify. I assume it's either a Coiner creation or something else not listed on their website. This picture isn't great, but it's a classic hybrid tea in habit. Reminds me of Red Intuition somewhat, but it had no label. This is the only picture of a bloom I've taken since they don't really do the flowers justice. It was right after she got it earlier this year. Any idea? I emailed Coiner Nursery months ago, but have never gotten a response to my knowledge.

Thanks again,
Jay

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 2:12AM
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kstrong(10 So Cal)

Well, that looks like Pink Intuition, the lighter sport of Red Intuition. But I've never know Home Depot to carry either one -- Red or Pink Intuition.

Here is a link that might be useful: My Pink Intuition

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 3:26PM
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milleruszk(z6 NJ)

Belinda's Dream is one of the best roses in my garden. I have had it for two years and it has really grown. I have a no spray garden and it does just fine.

    Bookmark   October 9, 2013 at 7:33PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I recall a couple of zone 5 growers writing that it was not cane-hardy for them.

    Bookmark   October 10, 2013 at 9:35AM
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Kes Z 7a E Tn

Oops, my bad. Turns out white licorice is:
Distant Drums x Singin' in the Rain

Now I wonder what rose was Distant Drums x Sunsprite? Maybe i dreamt it.

Anyway, sorry for the misinformation. It would still be pretty with Distant Drums.

    Bookmark   October 7, 2013 at 11:57AM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

Thanks for the suggestions, many good ideas. My DD is new this year. It's grafted and is about 3 1/2' tall and is a vigorous grower. I bought it for the love of the color and just stuck it into a new empty bed. My dilemma is that I'd like to fill that bed with OGRs and possibly Austins. I just don't see DD fitting in with it's upright growth and shiny foliage. So I have some rearranging to do. I have a bed with modern roses that is red/yellow/orange and I'm thinking I could expand that and use DD as a transition to mauve and purple. It's tough to get a good sense of the shape of a rose bush based on online information.

    Bookmark   October 9, 2013 at 8:50PM
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AliSidewinder06

Yes we have many many many projects going on. Thanks for the info on posting pics. Guess I'll have to get photo bucket up and running again lol. Yes I will post pics of the finished project or as close to it as possible. Working on it today infact trying to move my desert rose from inside to out and same with one very stubborn aloe. We also have an orange tree growing in the back yard we recently found out. When we bought the house there was a vine choking what I thought was a dead tree. Well we trimmed the vines back and found out it was still alive the bottom was flourishing away from the vines and producing fruit. Needless to say we quickly did away with the vines to rescue the tree. The fruit it bares however is sour oranges.

    Bookmark   October 9, 2013 at 4:42PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Best of luck with your projects... :-)
Can't wait to see more of it someday...

    Bookmark   October 9, 2013 at 7:16PM
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