22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

I usually don't use pesticides - just the garden hose. This year, though, I did use Bayer All-In-One, a systemic, about the end of February. I don't exhibit so a few bugs are welcomed. Aphids are food for several small birds, lacewings and other assorted critters. We've battled heat, cold and wind already during the past 3 weeks so haven't even had to deal much with powdery mildew this spring. Using a spray with imadicloprid will usually keep the aphids and thrips under control but, like Jim said, it isn't picky about which bugs it kills. Malathion, like carbaryl, can actually encourage summer pests, like whitefly and spider mites, because they kill off the predatory bugs.

The spray damage in your pictures probably was from the neighborhood spray application. The job of the leaf is to protect the cane and convert sunlight. If the leaf took the hit and the cane didn't, then the leaf did it's job. Most likely they were spraying glyphosate (RoundUp) for weeds and there was some spray drift. I'd just ignore the minor damage.

Thanks everyone for the input. The thrips here are the worst. Some of my roses buds are so distorted. As for the other critters I am pretty much ok with them. I am using Bayer 2n1 with systemic granules applied per the instructions. Last year it work great this year not so much.

To pinch or not to pinch...personal choice. If the plants are developing to your satisfaction, don't pinch. If they aren't, pinch. As for how long, until they seem to be growing and maturing to your satisfaction. I don't pinch everything because not everything NEEDS pinching. Those which begrudgingly produce growth, preferring to flower instead, I pinch until they appear to be growing as I wish them to. It's really that simple. Kim

Thanks for all the good advice! On the ones I have just planted in the ground or potted, I have pinched all buds. On my precious bands I got from Vintage last year and just repotted - I am pinching all but one bud. It is really important to me to have good root growth - so will definitely do it on the new roses. Ya'll's advice makes good sense - I just wasn't sure how many bud cycles to pinch.....now will look at the rose, and think I have enough sense to know when to and when not to.

I am finally seeing a bunch of buds in the last week - like, almost overnight they are pumping them out! Just cant wait to see the first ones start blooming!
Judith

Got it! That rose is outta here.
Thanks again,
Sylvia

Dr Huey..for sure.

I use the MG lawn food every once in a while on certain roses--just the ones that look like they are extra hungry for N. (Here the soil has plenty of everything except N.) Works great. Not something I do regularly.

I am of the opinion that Miracle Grow has so much nitrogen and one gets alot of growth but then the roses fall over. I think it really forces them when they are not ready. I prefer organics..good soil..BUT..if I get impatient I have used it to give my roses a boost..since I am in the PNW I get tired of waiting for blooms..but it comes at a price. The guy at the nursery said it is "Crack for roses". Lots of energy..but a crash at the end. If I was having a big party or something in my backyard and wanted to have lots of blooms I would give it a Miracle Grow bath...

I still think it would be a good idea to clean the crepe myrtle up a bit before putting in a rose.It would be so messy if the tree dies and gets knocked down once the rose is nice and big and mature. I think I'd prune and fertilize it ,not so much with the idea of nursing it back into shape for it's own sake, but with the concept that I'd want to create a valid support for my rose. Just my 2 cents....bart

I second Viking queen
I have a ten year old one that I keep around ten feet tall.

Possibly related thread linked below. BTW, FdB is:

Francis Dubreuil

Here is a link that might be useful: Most fragrant red hybrid tea

I vote.......from my garden here in south central Kansas:

1st place- Veteran's Honor

2nd place-Beloved

3rd place-Olympiad

And cutting will stimulate new growth. That looks like a hybrid tea of some kind. It will bloom in cycles all season long and cutting the blooms to take in or dead heading the spent ones is exactly what you want to do to keep it blooming. If you can post a few pictures of the blooms in different stages we might be able to name it for you.

Thanks,

I will take a few more pictures. I did see a picture of the front of my house before I bought it. And the roses were about 7' tall if that helps. when I trimmed them in January you could see that they put about 4 bare roots together. I can see at least two types.

While an exhibitor might change her mind after reading my posts in the thread linked below, this gardener sticks with 28F as being the temperature of concern IF the roses are NOT dormant.

Southern California knows very little about such lows.

There are always MANY variables to consider.

Best wishes.

Here is a link that might be useful: weather conditions

This post was edited by sandandsun on Mon, Apr 7, 14 at 15:08

I got them all planted today! I had to relocate a number of narcissus & tulips that were just starting to come up - guess I wasn't thinking about the rose hole sizes last fall ð My neighbors all came over to help (watch me dig!) & we got to visit for a while. Isn't it great to just be outside again?
Thanks for being willing to share your experience & knowledge!

Bierkreek, in the Netherlands has it (oh the tempting starts)!

Thanks to both of you.

And laughing out loud!

It could be shooting up like that because its trying to reach for the light...you tend to get long, leggy and rather sappy growth in low light conditions. Being inside in Nottingham in March, it probably wouldn't help much even if you put it on a windowsill. And that's apart from all the humidity lack of air circulation issues. Is there any where you have a back porch or a sheltered corner you can put it out on?

I guess you guys are right :(
Nah, there is no such place.
I bought canes and twine so I am going to place it outside as there's no more risk of frost. :D

Tiffany on October 29th. Temperature ranges in the high 50's - low 60's.

I think colour in roses also has to do with intensity/quality of light, as well as the heat ( and especially so for roses like Double Delight). during the month of heatwaves we had this summer, I moved a lot of potted roses under the carport; not the best as they didnt get any direct sunlight, but better than them frying. Just Joey went into summer colouration mode (pale delicate salmon), but Double Delight produced a few cool weather blooms (creamy white, with barely any red at all).

Subke,

I, too love the way you have woven New Dawn through your trellis. It is obviously a lot of work.

I have never grown New Dawn but recall she is a strong grower. I wonder if it is your intention that your rose grows over the roof? Would there be some advantage in removing more from the top in order to encourage new growth from the bottom? My climber tends to get top heavy if I don't shorten it considerably each spring..

Harry

Thanks for all the kind words. I love to hear what everybody else is up to. It's great to see beautiful pictures of roses, but those always seem like the "after" pictures to me and not the nitty gritty "before" and "during" pictures!

Just to clarify the trellises are/were scrap pieces recovered from a steel shop, trimmed to sized, then rails added that sink about 3' into the ground. True example of "trash to treasure"!

Harry, I would love for the New Dawn to grow over the stoop roofs, but so far any canes that have gotten above the galvanized aluminum roof has fried, so I'm not sure that's going to work. The rose is going in to it's fourth year and so far I have not had much issue with it getting good bloom down low, but this is the first year I've ended spring pruning with canes above the trellis so we shall see--this is very much a learning experience for me.

FYI: Anyone finding this thread after a search for "New Dawn": I would not--knowing what I know today--select this rose again! It is more thorny, less blackspot resistant and a poorer rebloomer than advertised, although it is glorious for about 3 weeks of the year.

I would prune off all the distorted leaves and see what happens. If the distorted leaves do not return, then I wouldn't worry about it.

I don't know about the weather in Vegas--especially during this weird polar winter we had this year, but in Kansas, if those distorted leaves appeared in early spring, I would assume they were suffering from a late night freeze--which is why I'd cut them off. As the weather warms up, no other leaves would be affected..

Kate

You might want to contact your ag extension agent and ask if Chili Thrips have been reported in your area.