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I still think it would be a good idea to clean the crepe myrtle up a bit before putting in a rose.It would be so messy if the tree dies and gets knocked down once the rose is nice and big and mature. I think I'd prune and fertilize it ,not so much with the idea of nursing it back into shape for it's own sake, but with the concept that I'd want to create a valid support for my rose. Just my 2 cents....bart

I second Viking queen
I have a ten year old one that I keep around ten feet tall.

Possibly related thread linked below. BTW, FdB is:

Francis Dubreuil

Here is a link that might be useful: Most fragrant red hybrid tea

I vote.......from my garden here in south central Kansas:

1st place- Veteran's Honor

2nd place-Beloved

3rd place-Olympiad

And cutting will stimulate new growth. That looks like a hybrid tea of some kind. It will bloom in cycles all season long and cutting the blooms to take in or dead heading the spent ones is exactly what you want to do to keep it blooming. If you can post a few pictures of the blooms in different stages we might be able to name it for you.

Thanks,

I will take a few more pictures. I did see a picture of the front of my house before I bought it. And the roses were about 7' tall if that helps. when I trimmed them in January you could see that they put about 4 bare roots together. I can see at least two types.

While an exhibitor might change her mind after reading my posts in the thread linked below, this gardener sticks with 28F as being the temperature of concern IF the roses are NOT dormant.

Southern California knows very little about such lows.

There are always MANY variables to consider.

Best wishes.

Here is a link that might be useful: weather conditions

This post was edited by sandandsun on Mon, Apr 7, 14 at 15:08

I got them all planted today! I had to relocate a number of narcissus & tulips that were just starting to come up - guess I wasn't thinking about the rose hole sizes last fall ð My neighbors all came over to help (watch me dig!) & we got to visit for a while. Isn't it great to just be outside again?
Thanks for being willing to share your experience & knowledge!

Bierkreek, in the Netherlands has it (oh the tempting starts)!

Thanks to both of you.

And laughing out loud!

It could be shooting up like that because its trying to reach for the light...you tend to get long, leggy and rather sappy growth in low light conditions. Being inside in Nottingham in March, it probably wouldn't help much even if you put it on a windowsill. And that's apart from all the humidity lack of air circulation issues. Is there any where you have a back porch or a sheltered corner you can put it out on?

I guess you guys are right :(
Nah, there is no such place.
I bought canes and twine so I am going to place it outside as there's no more risk of frost. :D

Tiffany on October 29th. Temperature ranges in the high 50's - low 60's.

I think colour in roses also has to do with intensity/quality of light, as well as the heat ( and especially so for roses like Double Delight). during the month of heatwaves we had this summer, I moved a lot of potted roses under the carport; not the best as they didnt get any direct sunlight, but better than them frying. Just Joey went into summer colouration mode (pale delicate salmon), but Double Delight produced a few cool weather blooms (creamy white, with barely any red at all).

Subke,

I, too love the way you have woven New Dawn through your trellis. It is obviously a lot of work.

I have never grown New Dawn but recall she is a strong grower. I wonder if it is your intention that your rose grows over the roof? Would there be some advantage in removing more from the top in order to encourage new growth from the bottom? My climber tends to get top heavy if I don't shorten it considerably each spring..

Harry

Thanks for all the kind words. I love to hear what everybody else is up to. It's great to see beautiful pictures of roses, but those always seem like the "after" pictures to me and not the nitty gritty "before" and "during" pictures!

Just to clarify the trellises are/were scrap pieces recovered from a steel shop, trimmed to sized, then rails added that sink about 3' into the ground. True example of "trash to treasure"!

Harry, I would love for the New Dawn to grow over the stoop roofs, but so far any canes that have gotten above the galvanized aluminum roof has fried, so I'm not sure that's going to work. The rose is going in to it's fourth year and so far I have not had much issue with it getting good bloom down low, but this is the first year I've ended spring pruning with canes above the trellis so we shall see--this is very much a learning experience for me.

FYI: Anyone finding this thread after a search for "New Dawn": I would not--knowing what I know today--select this rose again! It is more thorny, less blackspot resistant and a poorer rebloomer than advertised, although it is glorious for about 3 weeks of the year.

I would prune off all the distorted leaves and see what happens. If the distorted leaves do not return, then I wouldn't worry about it.

I don't know about the weather in Vegas--especially during this weird polar winter we had this year, but in Kansas, if those distorted leaves appeared in early spring, I would assume they were suffering from a late night freeze--which is why I'd cut them off. As the weather warms up, no other leaves would be affected..

Kate

You might want to contact your ag extension agent and ask if Chili Thrips have been reported in your area.

A few new things for me in this thread. I didn't know about the potential problems with plastic cover. Had not used it with my previous rose and see that I shouldn't. Also, had never heard of chlorosis. Yeah, this winter was brutal on just about all plants.

My first thought was cold damage too. I know when I've left cane that was marginal when pruning in the past. It almost always dies off anyway and I end up going back and repruning them. Now I just take off anything that looks iffy right from the start. It saves the plant from wasting energy on leaves that will not live and saves me from having to prune again.

Pictures? Always nice to have when asking a question, especially a close-up of the area with a problem.

I will have to send pics later. Cam is needing charge on batteries. Good idea

One more thing -- if the rocks are limestone, they'll make the soil beneath very alkaline. If you don't know, do the vinegar test -- if some spilled onto the rocks starts to fizzle, then you have limestone.

:-)

~Christopher

I know someone who uses white rock mulch in all his rose beds but he's in Colorado where it's cooler. It might be too hot for Texas. I think I'd remove it.

Again thanks for all the comments. We (my wife) has decided to go with KO red and KO Sunny. The nurseryman will be here this morning to check the layout, test the soil etc. He informed us that a double Sunny is now available so we'll go with that and a double red. Sunny being pale to almost white should ease the appearance of 2 strong colors competing.

I misuunderstood about the KO Sunny. The nurseryman (Bill) said he inquired about double Sunny, not that they were available. Anyway he recommended 3 boxwoods in the corner with all red double KO at 5 foot intervals and 3 Sunny in front of the boxwoods. That's what we're going with. Again thanks, all the comments helped us to decide. I will post pix when the hedge is in full bloom