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seil zone 6b MI

You need not be ashamed at all! You got a lovely rose and a great deal!

No, it's not too late to plant potted roses at all. Bare roots, yes...maybe, lol...but potted roses should go right into the ground or transplant without a blink. Just try not to disturb the existing root ball. It probably doesn't even need to go into the shade. I'm sure it's been out in full sun at the nursery for weeks already. Treat it just like all your other roses and it should do fine.

I would say you can plant potted roses all through June and maybe into July depending on how hot your weather is. If it's scorching hot it's probably not the best time to plant anything but if not go for it. I've dug out vigorous and healthy roses and transplanted them in mid July and other than a touch of transplant wilt, which some good watering took care of, they took off and did great. Know your roses and your weather and play it by that.

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farmerduck

Also, I think that some of the DA potted roses are actually own roots. As far as I can tell, the latest (and last, I hope) DA potted rose I got is own root.

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dragonfly_field(8)

Thank you that is good to know! We are renting now and hopefully will have our own home in a year or two and eventually they will probably be planted in the ground, but for a year or two at the least they will stay in pots. It's very wet where I am and rains most of the year except july and August. June and September are usually dry as well, the rest of the years is often soggy. Not sure if that makes any difference.

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seil zone 6b MI

Except when you're gradually potting up very tiny seedlings or cuttings bigger is usually better for roses. They can't grow to their true potential if they don't have the pot room to build a big enough root ball to support the top growth.

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gr8heather(6b)

The mini could be rainbows end... I'll have to watch it and see how the colors develop. :) thanks

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roseseek(9)

Yes, you can cross large roses with minis. Kim

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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

Okay, so they aren't a problem for me then. Thanks everyone!

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iris_gal(z9 CA)

I have wondered about these so did a little search. From Wikipedia:

In the adult form, it eats and damages leaves of many crops, including cucumbers, soybeans, cotton, beans, and many others. In the larval form, which is known as the southern corn rootworm, it tunnels through the roots of young plants, stunting or killing them. These native pests have a wide range of host plants, but will readily infest a field of crop plants, most notoriously corn.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Do you have some hot weather expected? A stretch of cool over cast weather is best for transplanting. Disturbing the rootball as little as possible, and possibly some temporary shade can help for a smoother transition.

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seil zone 6b MI

Go ahead and move them. Dig and prep the new homes first, dig BIG root balls and try not to lose any soil or roots if possible when moving it, replant in new spots and WATER! And keep them watered but not soggy wet. They may wilt a tad at first but should soon perk back up. Don't fertilize them until you see new growth on them. They should be AOK!

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gardenbug(8b)

Okay, this is awesome. You folks are so helpful. Thank you. Since I'm fairly new to rose growing, I think I'll put a couple of stakes in where the branches have drooped to the ground. Tie them to the stakes and when the roses are faded, I'll cut the branch back. I'm just not sure where to make a cut or how far back? Thanks again for helping me.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Cut back to where it can stand up by itself. Maybe halfway.

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what is this problem?Not sure what is causing this problem?
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

The fungus is botrytis. This condition is also called "balling." In the garden, fungicides will have little or no effect. The problem will subside in warm or dry weather.

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gardenlady48(z5 IL)

Thank u michaelg !

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pembroke(6--Louisville KY)

has been in pot about a month. Should I see roots coming out bottom of pot and then transplant to larger pot? Pembroke

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

The rose will have visible roots in its own time. A month is a very short time for a good root system. 6-8 weeks is more typical. but I've had some take much longer.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Take into consideration that, if this is Dr. Huey (and I suspect Kippy's right) it will be an enormous once-blooming rambler with "iffy" disease-resistance.

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Not sure what zone you are in, but if it was very cold, the tree rose might have been doomed so don't feel too bad. But Doc Huey can become a beast.

When I moved to my apartment (my garden is at moms) the previous manager had a rose she LOVED. I had to promise to care for it. It had a giant half rotten trellis. The seasons where Rust, Mildew, Sawflies (the little holes), and red blooms that lasted for what seemed like a few days. After a couple of years I had enough of that beast and cut it out. It had a root like my arm under the patio. I dug and dug and clawed and scratched and finally got the beast out.

I now know that her prized rose was Dr Huey..... There is more growing on the other side of the wall that I keep trying to explain to the gardener to remove it is a weed....but he leaves the palm trees too so what can I do

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I bought a band a few months ago and pretty much just put it right in the ground. it is near where the old chicken coop was years ago so guessing that soil has some extra oomph, but it is growing like a weed.

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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Westerland is still fighting to recover from a long cold winter here. Many of the canes which survived seem weakened. The new growth from the ground is quite vigorous however. One cane has already grown 4'.

My problem is worsened because the Venosa Violacea clematis which shares the arbor is now 8' and reaching the top with a thick mat of vines. I have to knit vines each morning in order to give Westerland enough sun to continue growing.

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Ispahan Zone6a Chicago

My own root 'Westerland', growing in much more shade than it would like and in an intensively planted bed with a lot of competition, had a good amount of winter die back this year. It was left with only about 12 inches of green cane after spending the winter with no mulch or protection. It is now looking extremely healthy and is growing vigorously, currently about 4 feet by 4 feet and just about to open its first blooms. While not my favorite rose, I enjoy its searing orange color, sweet fragrance and health.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

As mentioned, Blushing Knock Out (and Pink Knock Out) is a mutation, or "sport", of the original Knock Out. Known to do this from time to time. I currently have one cane with blooms mixed light pink and cherry red, and this year, one cane that is solid cherry red. Fun to see!

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seil zone 6b MI

It's charming and I hope it will happen again from time to time for you!

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I don't know if this will make you feel better or not, but Gypsy Carnival is a real disease-magnet and a very weak grower--in my garden at least. The blooms are gorgeous, but the plant always looks like it isn't going to survive to the next blooming cycle--although it has managed to survive for 5-6 years now.

As a whole, it is the weakest and most disease-ridden plant in my entire garden.

Kate

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lelamsk(9a)

Thanks everyone for your feedback. I actually still have a replacement coming and since it is so hot not sure how a bare root will do at this time. I quess best thing to do is soak it overnight and keep it in the coolest place until it can develop some roots. Means there is something else that I will have to baby for a while. But I really did get some great feed back from everyone.. so thanks again.

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reemcook(8a PNW)

Mr. Kim Rupert: Roses are evergreen with little to no blackspot issues (or other diseases). Prolific blooms throughout the season.

Kordes: Generally very healthy in the 8a (Pacific Northwest) climate.

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nastarana(5a)

Francois Lacharme, for his magnificent Bourbon/Noisettes which, alas, I can't grow here.

I can now add Jacobus, now that 'Morning Stars', 'Autumn Bouquet' and 'Dream Girl' are growing back; I thought I had lost them.

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sara_ann-z6bok

Ken - Glad to know that your roses are doing good. Would love to see pictures when they bloom. I love it when my roses surprise me in a good way.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Great to hear sara Ann and ken! Things going good here!
We are actually still in our first flushes for the season...

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