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momtoollie

Thank you so much for all of your recommendations. I researched every single one and there are some great choices. Even though these trellises are well anchored, I'm afraid that in years to come, the weight of most any rose is going to present problems. So - I'm headed over to the clematis forum for suggestions. Really appreciate your advice. Thanks!

    Bookmark     March 26, 2014 at 4:29AM
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alameda/zone 8

A rose AND a clematis would look wonderful. All you need do is dig 3 holes, sink 3 landscape timbers in with cement and anchor your trellis to those then paint same color as trellis. Any larger trellis should be anchored thusly. Moderate climbing roses are not like wisteria in that they don't destroy the structures they are on so if your trellis is strongly anchored with posts cemented in the ground, you should have no worry. If canes become larger than you want, prune them. I am in Texas, so cant comment on what would be hardy in your area. A red rose would be striking on that trellis, with a lavender Elsa Spath clematis - there are so many clematis varieties.....a large white Candida would look great with a red rose. Do keep in mind that clematis, depending on what variety you choose, will only bloom certain times of the year - a rose will bloom in flushes. Depending on how far your home is from the trellis, you will need something eyecatching - small clematis blooms might not be seen well. With a rose and a clematis, you could double your bloom times. Lovely border.......a large spot of color would really make it pop.
Judith

    Bookmark     March 26, 2014 at 1:46PM
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andreark

Your babies look healthy and happy. My PJP has 2 dozen buds
that are ready to pop...

Have a lovely spring,

andreark

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 7:39PM
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sunflowersrus222(7a Pa)

wow beautiful! where are all of you that you're getting blooms now? We're still getting snow :(

    Bookmark     March 26, 2014 at 1:25PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

So sorry about that sub. But if they are own root, they may come back. We also had a hard frost last night. I brought in what I could, and tried to cover the ones that has very tender new growth with leaves and mondo grass clippings I had. I checked a few this morning and they looked ok. But I'm with you, this winter has to END now!

    Bookmark     March 26, 2014 at 11:43AM
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lookin4you2xist(9b)

We even got chilly in St. Pete Fl this morning. Well, chilly for us at this time of year! I Hope you do not have as many causalities as you think.
Regards,
Andrew

    Bookmark     March 26, 2014 at 12:02PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Send it back! You don't want it around and they should know about it so they can check their stock.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 10:38PM
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Karolina11(6b Central PA)

Thank you everyone. I emailed them again and they did the noble thing and issued me a refund. I am glad I didn't plant it. I greatly appreciate the sound advice!

    Bookmark     March 26, 2014 at 7:00AM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Thanks! Are all these critters being sprayed for BS etc?
Foliage looks amazing.
Susan

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 6:46PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks for sharing all those lovely blooms. it will be interesting to see the differences throughout the rose season.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 7:50PM
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roseseek(9)

The odd flower either didn't receive exactly the same levels of the necessary nutrients as the darker one, and/or the temperatures were sufficiently different when they were formed to cause the difference. Grow more roses a while longer, you'll see it happen every once in a while. Nothing to worry about, unless the whole bush starts doing it all the time. Then, something is amiss! The odd stem or flower here and there are nothing to worry about. Kim

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 2:43AM
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tammygreenwood

Thankyou Kim :)

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 5:12AM
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John

You only have 1 week until April.
I have always done it around this time of year up here around Toledo.

Yes these are 6 or 7 years old.

It was a very cold Winter this year -26 at times.

The deer also liked them.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 7:46PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It's a bit early but it's done. I'm just north of Detroit and I won't prune for a while yet. I usually wait until the forsythias bloom. The problem with pruning so early is that we are still going to get some really cold weather and heavy frosts and freezes. Unless they're well mulched you could still lose more cane to that and end up with nothing left. Pruning also encourages them to grow and they may try to put out a lot of new growth that won't survive any freezes. this just uses up the plants energy for when the weather really does break. The roses can only do that so many times before they end up dying.

I just lost my snow cover last week and the ground is definitely still frozen. I would wait to fertilize them though. They're not growing yet and can't take it up anyway so it will probably just wash away before the rose can get any of it.

Don't worry about them coming back. They'll be fine. They may even come back better than ever. As long as there was still some green cane left on them above the graft they'll grow once things warm up enough.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2014 at 12:03AM
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Melissa Mc (6b)

uh-oh. I just ordered this since it is supposed to have good disease resistance. Maybe it will have to go in a different place I had in mind.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 2:23PM
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twinkletoad(7B)

This just shows how much you can research but really it all comes down to just "go for it and see what happens." vampy, I'm still trying to figure out where I'm going to put mine, too. Sounds like she may get much bigger than I expected. I'm still excited- those gardenia-looking blooms are beautiful in photos. The coral red centers are really interesting.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 8:56PM
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Delphinium zone5

You really have a lovely house, and your yard looks great in the summer. My suggestion is to replace those evergreens (yews?) With conifers that make more of a statement. Perhaps a weeping variety or something tall and narrow (junipers) or something similar to flank the front door. Check out the conifer forum for more ideas.

I love hydrangeas and agree that a hydrangea tree would work well to the left of your window. I also think a garden in front of your large tree would jazz up your yard. Hydrangeas would be perfect there with ferns and hostas if they work in your zone.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 7:09PM
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toolbelt68(7)

I know you are looking for something between spring and fall but since you don't like your flower bed during the winter have you considered planting a Harry Lauder's Walking Stick? They do get good sized so plan on that when you plant. They are neat all year long. Maybe plant it out in the yard all by itself.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 7:44PM
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eprepr

Thanks guys, I am going to wait a little bit then.
Seil, yes the plant has been in the pot for a year, and I plan to keep it there.

    Bookmark     March 23, 2014 at 11:31PM
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roseseek(9)

I agree with Seil. Leave every leaf that plant grows alone until it shows you it's finished with it. Every leaf produces food it needs to do what you want it to do. All the remaining growth contains stored nutrients from last year. Any you remove, removes its share of food reserve. If the plant was large and well established, that wouldn't make a lot of difference. At this stage, it can make a great deal of difference. Kim

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 6:33PM
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andreark

Sara-Ann,

I will be posting photos as soon as my first flush happens. Last year at this time, I had only one bed of 6 plants and don't remember the incredible number of buds. I had some flowers of course, but not that many. I think I have learned a lot from my rosy buddies here on the forum, and that's why my roses are so healthy and happy now.

My beautiful babies send you all a wish for a very wonderful spring.

andreark

    Bookmark     March 23, 2014 at 9:06PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you Andrea. I am looking forward to your photos and hope you enjoy your roses immensely!

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 5:27PM
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kidhorn(7a MD)

Tilling up the entire bed and mixing in some compost is what I would do if I could do it easily. Putting a good layer of mulch on the surface every spring helps too. It breaks down over time and helps the soil and it helps keep the soil moist.

RRD is probably more common in knockout than other roses since knockouts tend to be bushier and healthier than other roses. I've found RRD to be more common on healthy roses than sick ones. If you spot RRD early, you typically don't need to get rid of the entire bush. Cut the infected cane down about a foot below where the RRD symptoms appear and most of the time the bush will be OK. If you have it in more than one location, then get rid of the bush as the infection is probably systemic.

I was at a pagoda in Northern Virginia a couple of weeks ago and they had maybe 15 rose bushes. All of them had RRD. Some were almost 100% infected. I tried to tell them they needed to get rid of all the bushes and then wait a few weeks before planting new ones. They just smiled. I'm not sure if they'll do anything.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 2:24PM
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saldut

I have abt. 8 KO roses and count on them for constant color...however, be aware that they are a magnet for Chili-thrips... they are my 'canary in the coal-mine', and it gets so bad in the summer I was ready to rip them out! I attended a meeting at FSC in Lakeland of the rose society, and we discussed what to do, the advice was Imidicloprid...Bayer makes a product both liquid and granular that you apply in March, it's good for 12 months...so I am going to try it..on the KOs also Belinda's Dream and the Don Juans, and several other roses that Chili-thrips love....it's strange because I now have roses that are not bothered by them, mostly China, Noisette, some old Teas.... so we shall see how it goes, I sure hope this stuff works I don't want to dig up any of my garden....sally

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 3:46PM
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msjam2

I have Felco 2 and 6. I like 2 better because of the longer blade.

I also have the Felco 21 Lopper and 611 saw (I use this saw a lot).

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 1:44PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

Yes. Get a good set of Felco's if you can afford it.

Also, last year Costco's was selling a package of imitation Felco's that even came with replacement blades, hardware and a sharpener. The quality was good for the price, so see if they carry them again this spring.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 2:04PM
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floridarosez9

I throw mine a scoop of alfalfa pellets several times a year--the kind without added salt. Get it at the farm store.

    Bookmark     March 22, 2014 at 7:43PM
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swedeone

Hello,

Thank you all for the suggestions, I will be getting some dry fertilizer and feeding them soon! I do live in south Florida where the soil is sandy and we get a lot of rain, I'll see how they do but don't want to over fertilize.

Thank you again!

Lisa

    Bookmark     March 24, 2014 at 10:48AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

After I spread the pellets around the rose, I turn the hose on to a stiff strong spray and water in the pellets thoroughly. They will start to disintegrate as a result--speed up the process and keeps the hard pellets from just laying there and attracting who knows what kind of critters (including ants?). Then I put mulch on top of the pellets--helps protect them and discourage the critters--and obviously is good for the future retention of moisture when the weather heats up.

Just make sure there is no salt in the alfalfa--that iwould be a recipe for garden disaster!

Kate

    Bookmark     March 23, 2014 at 9:29AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Ask the feed store if there is salt in there. Return it if there is, or donate to a hungry horse.

    Bookmark     March 23, 2014 at 8:58PM
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