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seil zone 6b MI

Got back to the nursery today and picked up Valencia and Veterans' Honor! I think I'm going to leave it at that for now and order some in the fall for next spring.

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buford(7 NE GA)

ARS Featured Sugar Moon on it's facebook page. WOW. I've seen it in person and it is that white and smells delicious.

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campv 8b AZ

I think it is a wonderful rose.

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chris_in_wv

I do like the ruffled petal edges and the scent is nice.

Thanks, everyone!

Chris

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

How deep is the horse manure? If they are growing in mostly manure instead of soil, that's a pretty unnatural situation.

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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

I got the horse manure last spring 2013 from a coworkers farm and she said it had been piled up and left all winter long before I got a hold of it. I used it in my compost bin to compost even more over last summer and just laid the compost on top of the soil as a top dressing.
I will try to get a close up of a leaf if I can, it's raining right now.

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seil zone 6b MI

That's sounds fine, Nick. You just want to be careful with the fertilizer when you first plant roses so you don't burn the roots. Besides, when you first plant them it takes them a bit to settle in and start to take up nutrients anyway. Seeing new growth start on top will tell you that roots are ready to feed more top growth so you can go ahead and start to fertilize.

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

seil,
Well hopefully I did not burn the roots cuz like I said, after we dug the hole, I added a tablespoon of the Roses Miracle Grow to the hole. Then I watered the hole so the rose miracle grow would get wet & disperse into the soil. Then added the bush & covered & watered again.

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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

*chuckles* No worries. I already cried into a pillow. :P

Now, I think, the question is what can be done with it right now? *entertains thoughts of putting Tuscany in the freezer for a few weeks during the winter months* XD

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Moose, try the Propagation and Exchange Forum linked above. Or maybe somebody here will email you an offer. Old Tea or China roses would be good for you.

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jacqueline9CA

mad_gallica is correct. DO NOT dig up your rose and replant it. Just tie it to the trellis. If there are any canes of any appreciable length, gently tie them as horizontally as you can.

Jackie

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shellfleur(z7a Long Island, NY)

I agree, your roses will sort themselves out and the blooms will ultimately face toward sunlight rather than toward the wall. I have an amusing example of such a thing. Years ago when my husband and I first bought our house, he planted a huge row of giant sunflowers against our fence. We were so excited for them to bloom. Well, they bloomed alright...but they all faced toward our neighbor's yard and away from ours. That was the direction of the sun. Lesson learned! lol
PS: our neighbors loved them.

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professorroush(6A)

It may be beneficial and eating aphids. It looks an awful lot like a ladybug larva.

Here is a link that might be useful: ladybug larva article.

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charleney(8a PNW)

okay prof. that is what I also think. Leave him alone. They do look evil, but they are one of the good guys. And that is why you may be seeing all the aphid corpses around!

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johnstarnes(Zone 9)

I can find VERY few pics of Peter Frank's Hulthemias. Pics of Jim Sproul's make me drool, especially his new seedlings derived from "Darlowe's Enigma".

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pat_bamaz7

This is my third year with Ketchup & Mustard. My DH is very supportive of my gardening, but really doesnâÂÂt get too excited about anything other than our vegetables. Ketchup & Mustard is one of only two roses heâÂÂs ever picked out and requested that I plant. He loves this rose, so it stays in my garden. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't grow it. ItâÂÂs a rather good rose except that it blackspots terribly here. IâÂÂm just not crazy about the blooms. I think itâÂÂs the contradiction of the harsh coloring verses the small frilly bloom form that doesnâÂÂt appeal to me. It is a prolific bloomer; the blooms last a long time and then self clean; the red never fades or burns in all day full sun here (the yellow does soften some as the blooms age); it stays short which is fairly uncommon for a rose here (mine is still under 4 ft in its third year and about as wide); the foliage is a bright, shiny green (when not covered in BS); no fragrance whatsoever to my nose; weak canes that droop badly in our stormy spring; the blooms will nod after a rain, but the petals themselves are very rain tolerant.

My camera doesn't capture the brightness of the tomato red & yellow very well, but here are a couple of pictures anyway:

I prefer the blooms when they are nodding after a rain:

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cecily(7 VA)

I've grown MT in coastal NC and two locations in VA: he is about 6x6 here with very little winter kill and zero blackspot. Repeat is about 30 days. He's bulletproof.

Haven't grown FD because of the BS reports.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Here they are both very good repeaters. Some mildew on MT when young. The main difference is size of the plant. Also place FD with some afternoon shade as the dark color of the flowers can blacken and toast in hot weather. Can't comment on BS.

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anntn6b(z6b TN)

That still has parts alive....so is worth a removal of winter dead parts to let the live parts fill in the voids.

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Cher(6 SW OH)

Thanks so much for your answers everyone. I kind of thought that but was thrown off by all those thorn clusters. Thanks again.
Cher

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Here is a picture of a crab spider on my Betty White. I usually take my finger and flick it off, since they can eat bees. I don't kill them, because they can do good things too.
And yes! They can camouflage themselves by turning color. I've seen one yellow.
Carol

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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Thrips season is late this year in Tennessee because Hay cutting is way late.

Once the grasses dry out, the Thrips move on and the predaceous Thrips follow. Only the predaceous ones need some time for their populations to build.

Thrips just began to bother my white roses about four days ago (east of Knoxville 1100').

Sometimes I can salvage blooms by removing outer layers of petals and move them inside for enjoyment.

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rosydreams(10a SoCal sunset zone 19)

Hmmm, looking closely at the original posters foliage, you're quite right. My perfume delights leaves are different, very matte. Also my Perfume Delight doesn't keep it's color, it fades... a lot. I still love it for sheer vigor though. :)

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cjrosaphile(z8 Pacific NW)

Hmmm. The fragrance is medium to my smeller -- but then I have Austins. I'm really on the fence becuz it does look like Perfume Delight, has large dark green matte leaves and red thorns. Very vigorous. But it also really looks like Pink Peace. . .counted the petals 52. . .when I go to HMF and look at the photos, it resembles Pink Peace more.

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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Purple and pink are great together. You could get more bold and alternate a few yellow roses.

There are many clematis to choose from. I have had good luck with Viticella types like Venosa Violacea.

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iris_gal(z9 CA)

I gave New Dawn climbing rose to a gardening buddy to plant with her climbing red rose. I had seen a picture of this combo with the viticella clematis 'Etiole Violette' (purple) and it was gorgeous. Not in person. We were both very disappointed. The foliage of this viticella clematis was so profuse it eclipsed both of the strong growing climbers.

I recommend the Boulevard Collection clematis by Evison. They grow 4ft. to 8 ft. depending upon cultivar. And bloom repeatedly! I have the 4ft. 'Cezanne' which is a pastel blue-lav. (not pinky like some pictures) and has a gorgeous satiny quality. At pruning time they are cut down to 10-12inches. Very unfussy. And these all are suitable to pot culture as well so you can 'design' before you plant.

Are you wanting pastel, med. or dark pink roses?

Here is a link that might be useful: Evison Boulevard collection

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roseseek(9)

I like the sound of that Suzan. PLEASE post photos when it explodes! Thanks. Kim

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johnstarnes(Zone 9)

I love Jim Sproul's new seedlings based on "Darlowe's Enignma"!

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ordphien(9)

Water.
Easiest solution. Every morning go out and spritz your leaves.

Powdery mildew needs dry leaves in order to survive.

If you do this from the start you won't have to deal with pm ever.

With an already infected plant, it won't cure the pm. But it will stop it from spreading.

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ordphien(9)

Water.
Easiest solution. Every morning go out and spritz your leaves.

Powdery mildew needs dry leaves in order to survive.

If you do this from the start you won't have to deal with pm ever.

With an already infected plant, it won't cure the pm. But it will stop it from spreading.

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