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I got one at our Lowe's in Jan. It's already sprouting out and looking good so far. Will be interesting to see what it does. I'm really enjoying the Hulthemias. I tried numerous times to get EUPHRATES years ago, and never could manage to get it. I don't even remember where I tried to get it, but it was at a couple different sources that listed it back in the 90's. I'm glad to see so many new, similar, and apparently better roses. I got BULL'S EYE two yrs ago, and this yr got EYECONIC MELON LEMONADE and EYES FOR YOU. Also got a few yrs ago PERSIAN SUNSET as an own root, but it hasn't done much. It'll be fun to see everybody's pics of these this season.

I would go a long way to get my hands on the little yellow Chewtingle, that's for sure.

Is Pickering no longer in business? No one has mentioned them. I bought good plants from them a few years back.

Harryshoe - Pickering is still in business and let it be known that they would be shipping to the US this year. I have placed an order with them and it is scheduled to be shipped in a few days. I ordered from them in 2011 and was pleased.

I have to agree with Quadra too, even over the others mordenman listed, for a zone 4 climber. In my zone 5 yard, I would have put Illusion and Quadra in the same camp, but in this bitterly cold and snowless winter, Illusion survived fine but is getting pruned down to about 6" but Quadra sailed through the winter with only cosmetic pruning. It's supposed to be hardy to zone 3, and blooms for me all summer. The blooms are more crimson-pink than a true red but that's true of most "red" roses, particularly climbers.

Make sure it's a big and sturdy trellis that can hold a lot of weight. Quadra gets big canes and can tip over free-standing pillars, and it grows to second-story window height pretty easily, even with pruning.

Cynthia

thank you all for all the help

I only use cedar mulch as well. No problems. I did notice that it cuts down on bug activity, which is good

If you're going to spray soapy water to kill aphids, do it early in the morning, and then rinse off the roses with plain water before the mid-day heat sets in. And don't use any oil when temps are above 85F.

:-)

~Christopher

I agree with everything Seil said about your roses, and this may be one of those learning experiences to see what roses like in your zone. Nowhere do they like being without air circulation, which is what those rose cones and some other kinds of protection can provide, so the canes that are black are dead and need to be cut off. Whether the rose itself is dead remains to be seen. As Seil said, cut off cane until you see creamy white/tan insides of the cane, but don't cut below the knobby chunk at the bottom of the rose - assuming it's a grafted rose, this knobby part is where the rose you want starts, and pruning below it will only leave a different root stock behind. As long as some cane is still alive above that graft, or even at the graft itself, the rose will come back and you might never know it was cut back by mid-summer.

For fall protection next time, you may want to check some old threads or post a new one in September or October and we can coach you in some relatively straightforward ways to protect roses with better odds for survival. Of course, in cold zones there are some roses that won't survive regardless, so it might not be the cone's fault.

Cynthia

Thanks to you both for the advice. I will try the cuttings to see if I have any good rose left.

Last rose, Chrysler Imperial, planted.

As predicted, PFG is making a comeback from just outside the hole I dug to about three feet.
I'll give it some more time to show itself and then get a paintbrush and roundup.

Meye heavens, I'm still trying to get used to all the name changing as a rose crosses borders. I'm beginning to think the rose industry gives MI-5 a good go in a who-has-more-aliases challenge. Of course, there's nothing cagey about rose names.

I shouldn't be too critical of such habits. After they've been in my garden a few years, roses become "this one," "that one," or "the one back there," etc. Hopefully, none will ever be known as "that old thing?"

Anyway, thank you to kstrong in the thread linked below for letting me know that if I want to find Peace and Love I have to get some Eyes on Me.

Here is a link that might be useful: European Posters?? -- Eyes on Me

Honestly, a rose has three (3) names already and is registered for exhibition in the US with a fourth but is being sold in North America with a fifth?

Let's see if we can follow this.

CHEsumsigns becomes 'Love and Peace' which becomes 'Bright as a Button (or was it the other way around?) which becomes 'Eyes on Me.' 'Eyes on Me' is now AKA (also known as) 'Raspberry Kiss.'

I guess the CIA said it didn't like the reference to MI-5 and insisted that North Americans prove they could have more aliases!

Actually with my brief web search, it appears that Mr. Warner's rose is now primarily known as 'Raspberry Kiss.' So, it would probably be more accurate to say that it is also known as any and all of the other names as well as a certain magazine's promotional name.

And it turns out that ole Amos Pettingill either thinks it is exceptional somehow or believes that it's actually white with deeper and deeper pink shading. No telling which.

Latest name change announcement in the thread linked below:

Here is a link that might be useful: Raspberry Kiss (Eyes on Me)

I would recommend "John Davis". It's a beautiful pink hardy climbing rose from the Canadian explorer series.

Thank you all for your suggestions!

I think I am going to go with Alchymist from High Country. It achieves the height I need, along with being hardy to zone 4. It only blooms once, but those huge apricot blooms look amazing. The clematis and side garden should fill in the gap as well. I've come to realize that thorns are a part of roses, so I'll just have to give those pruners an extra workout! :)

Thanks for all the suggestions. I ended up putting the Gemini in the pot. I have read in a lot of places that roses on fortuniana can do well in pots, so I thought it was worth a try. I just wish I had more spots in the yard to put them in the ground. Makes me want to move to a place with a bigger yard.

Good choice. The blooms will be easier to see (more contrast) than the Neptune roses.
Carol

Thanks you all. That's a real shame...I only ordered Austins from Pickering (Palatine doesn't sell them) and a few others that Palatine didn't have as I have ordered from Palatine before and been thrilled with the quality!
I was in HD today and saw body bags with canes 3 X the size of the Pickering roses.
I'm glad to hear that the Pickering roses do ok. I was really, really disappointed. Not just in the size but in the health.
Susan

Susan, the body bag plants you saw were most likely budded on Dr. Huey from Texas or California. Comparing them to anything on multiflora, particularly from anywhere in a cold climate (compared to the south or south west) is not really fair. Both may eventually resemble each other, but very few will initially. Kim

My lavenders are pushing out new growth now. So, go ahead now, but in future years do it after a round of bloom (those that repeat) or right after bloom (those that bloom once in spring).

All lavenders are not the same, if you can find a Goodwin Creek Grey mine seem to just keep on blooming non stop. The one that is getting too much water is bigger than the one that is getting less. Mine have spread to the 3 foot size (and yes I planted them thinking they were going to be 2 footers....)

I love the greens and deeper tones of Hidecote, it blooms less so far for me, but I will be adding more of this one. It is also much smaller.

My Munsteads are growing much slower so I really can't tell you much about them.

If you have space and want non stop flowers...Goodwin Creek Grey is a winner.

You guys look at that photo and ask "How can I grow pillar roses like that?"

I look at the same picture and all I can ask is "Why do I waste my time weeding and mulching?"

Zaphod, the concept is similar to the Essex Trellis but it must be much sturdier with larger spacing for the canes. The "umbrella" top would need to droop a bit more too.
Susan

Here's a picture of a large rose of mine called Valencia. It's a fantastic rose. So far it has no scent - but it's supposed to. Sometimes my roses don't get scent until year four and then wow!! This is a rose I think would be great for your mom. There are lots of gorgeous roses on this plant. And the flowers last for weeks on the bush.
Carol

Here's another picture of Valencia.
Carol