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Yes, this is the marketing group that brought us the Dream Roses. Their most successful rose promotion was Flower Carpet but that's losing steam now. They have to find a new nitch to stay in roses. They also have promoted other successes and failures. Tropicana canna being one of the better.


At this point, the owners of the J&P name are in fast & furious mode, bent on cashing-in to the max on the last, tattered vestiges of what once was a premium brand.
It's past time for all of us to recognize (and to inform others) that Jackson & Perkins is no longer a reputable source for roses.
Karolina11: ". . . (W)hy would their experts advise differently"?, you asked. There are no experts of the kind you have in mind left at J&P.


If you are having soil problems, try putting in a raised bed with good soil. Your ph needs to be 6.3-6.5. IF you can't get it there you will have discolored leaves. There are ph charts you can see that shows you what nutrients get locked up at what ph level.

I have a small no spray garden,so I am very selective about what roses I plant as I live in the southeastern mountains. After much research, I planted a big three gallon Cinco De Mayo from a local nursery, knowing full well it black spots in some southeastern gardens and not in others. I also know the first year is not a true measure of the success of a rose in my area, but I'm happy to say the first year has been a great success. It has bloomed literally non stop, has some black spot, but everyone else does, too. The leaves are still full and healthy this late in the season. I love the color and the fragrance; she's a big flouncy party girl, always swirling and dancing in the wind.

Reading this reference on HMF,
"Monographie du Genre RosierEDIT
Book (1824) Page(s) 155.
R. sulfurea Var. minor. Pourpre jaune. This variety does not bloom unless grafted, and that rarely; it is double the former [R. sulpfurea]." R. Hemisphaerica is a synonym for sufphueera. Perhaps what you're looking for might be might be Sulpheraea flore plena? Kim
Here is a link that might be useful: R. Hemisphaerica flore plena




I have gotten packages where the boxes were cut up and used as spacers, etc. Seemed wasteful to me to use instead of crushed paper, etc. Maybe since it was a flat rate, they figured why not sacrifice the free clean boxes as packing material. But it makes it tough for the person who wants a box and can't find one. I like to reuse boxes when I can. Sometimes flat rate is a good thing, but its always best to be sure you're not overspending.



Try googling rose recipes. I just did and the general topic had many recipes listed, plus a breakdown into more specialized topics, such as rose cakes, rose wine, etc. If you search for rose gumdrop recipes, you will come up with more of a "how to make a gumdrop rose" series of listings. You might have to do a little bit more rigorous searching for gumdrop recipes. I have made lemon and orange gumdrops, so it seems like using a rose oil or extract as the flavoring would be very possible. Diane


They have sale pricing on the link below. Perhaps what you found was an older link? Kim
Here is a link that might be useful: Highcountry Roses sale

Jackie, I was suggested to look into two sports of "Bel Ange": "Angel Girl", 1973, U.S.
and "Colin's Salmon", 1970, Australia.
The second one ("Colin's Salmon") seems to be quite a good option! I wonder why it is sold in South America as 'Salmon Ange' and still appears this way in the American Rose Society. I would love to grow the three plants all together to compare.
Here I attach a picture of "Salmon Ange".
Thanks for your reply!


Wow, you have so much space! MG is right on -- Knock Outs that are pruned to the ground in spring here (northern Virginia) are 6x6 in August. I'm counting the tree trunks in your photo thinking that there will be a lot of root competition and I still vote for nandina or nandina plus perennials. Is there another spot in your yard where you could make an island bed for roses?

Okay, nandina it is. I can put the roses on the other side of my property. Unfortunately, I put them in a perennial bed thinking they wouldn't get much bigger than three feet. Oh well. What perennials do you suggest with the firepower nandina? I'm thinking of geraniums, coreopsis, and heuchera. Maybe also putting in a climbing vine on one or both the corner trees.
Thanks so much!


I have decided on the Mellow Yellow rose. There were a lot of great suggestions, THANK YOU. I really don't care much for the grafted roses so I looked at Heirloom's selection (all own root). Heirloom has some real nice roses to choose from and their delivery is fantastic, Mellow Yellow has been delivered and in the ground with not one leaf removed thanks to their packaging & looks to be strong and healthy. Thanks again. Pembroke




HollyKline,
They are very easy to miss so recheck the bush in about 3 days as you may have to blast/pick them again.
Then keep rechecking from time to time...
Yes, more eggs may be hatching in addition to the wee ones that you probably missed.
Sprays of soap or oil only work if you coat the worm with the spray.