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Is the gray a substance on the top of the wood or is the bark of the wood a gray color? It it's something on the top it could be mildew, although I don't know if your weather conditions are good for that right now. If it's the bark that's gray it's just an older cane. As canes age they'll get a darker woody/ barky color, sometimes gray , sometimes brown, it depends on the rose. If it's at the top of the can it could be some die back. Clip the tip of the cane and check the pith inside for whiteness.

I showed it to a horticulturist I know and he said it is a canker disease caused by various different fungi.

I thought it kind of looked like canker but couldn't find the wound.

He is gonna look at the canes I cut off tomorrow to verify it.

The beads are made the same as rosary beads (which historically were made by nuns from a bride's wedding bouquet. There are lots of descriptions on the internet.

The scent is often added from rose oil late in the process. . Any natural scent in the petals is probably driven off by the heating process that it takes to make the beads.

Laura2424 may have a rabbit problem.

When I was a little girl (way back in the 19 hundred and 50's) I remember my mom and aunts talking about rosaries made of rose petal beads made by local nuns in SE WI, the only nuns I remember were Benadictine order. Don't really remember if it was them or not. Have never looked it up. I remember that made quite an impression on me that someone would sit and roll those rose petals till they formed a bead.(all those beads, wow). Then they sold the rosaries in their little gift shop They were dark red beads and I thought they would smell a lot like roses, but I remember being dissapointed that they did not.
I'm glad your earrings smell nice around you, that would be a treat this time of year..,
Donna

Regarding the wait-time for clematis to "take-off" -- I know that "normally" they don't really "show their stuff" until their third year, but back in my old garden, my Type 2 clematis grew like gangbusters. I don't know if it was because the plants were very mature when purchased, or if there was something extra special about my soil, or maybe all the rain we get in this area (that was Long Island, NY...I'm nearby in central NJ now), but mine grew very fast their first year. And in their second year, with no pruning other than nipping back dead tips after Winter, they easily reached 8' tall (and that's height from the ground -- considering they were spiraled around posts, their actual stem-lengths were longer).

So I'm not planning on putting clematis along the fence until next year. They'll be planted centrally between each "fence climber" rose, with bird netting hung along the length of the fence and a few inches from the slats. By that time, the roses I planted last year will have enough length to be tied in place, and the clematis can figure things out between them. And the companion perennials I'm putting in this year will have filled in a bit, offering shade at the ground where the clematis are planted. If the ones I get turn out to grow more slowly, I don't mind. I'd rather have that than have them take off earlier than I planned.

:-)

~Christopher

Not a great pic, but autumn joy and awakening seem to do well together.

So you do find that the compost alone doesn't provide enough food to the roses and that fertilizer is still needed?

Compost benefits the soil and it's structure. I don't believe that it has all the nutrients that roses require. As I said before, I don't like useless work. I wouldn't' use the fertilizer if it wasn't necessary. However, using fertilizer once a month and a foliar spray in between takes very little money and/or labor.

I think asking Kim (Roseseek) more technical questions would be a good idea. He is a great resource on this forum.

I just spent the morning with my babies, , , no work involved, and it's a very uplifting thing to do. Even the little work I do on my roses is very much worthwhile to me.
You DO have to be a rose 'nut' I'm sure. But I love it.

Have a great weekend,

andreark

I have a purple splash that I have to plan what to put in the bed with her. That is one happy rose!

I really like the idea of framing the whole window, and I think I'll do that with whatever I plant as a replacement. Then I'll tuck some minis along the front.

I got to enjoy a nice, warm day to melt the foot of snow and try to evaluate my roses, too.

I have two own-root roses that will have to grow from the roots because all the canes are brown, dry and terrible looking. I hope they do 'resprout'! They are the ones I put off ordering from Vintage for years and finally got last season :( They are both climbers, so hopefully they have some natural vigor.

Then I have one grafted Austin that has all its canes lost except possibly for a big fat woody cane that just looks woody. I'm hoping that fat one can regrow something green, too. That one is replaceable at least!

I take it very cold temperatures for an extended time can make it look like the plants have never been watered, lol? My dead branches look quite shrivelled. I know we had enough moisture this winter, so it must be the cold (or cold winds?). I'm not used to winter damage, so it's freaky.

We only got to 4 or 5 F, but the wind chills were lower. Usually under 15 is pretty rare and doesn't last days.

meredith, sounds like my yard. I even have massive leaf loss on my Jasmine vine that had made it all the way up my deck (which is one story above the backyard). I am hoping it will come back, but I've never seen this happen before. Some of my gardenias look ok, but have some brown areas. My Cleara bushes leaves are almost black, I'm not sure if they will come back. I did see some new growth on some roses, even with the ugly looking canes, so maybe they will be ok.

What Ingrid said.

Jackie

Thank you so much!

Wire they use for clotheslines should work. They still use them, right??

I'm jumping in here with my thoughts. What you have will definitely work. I've seen many large roses growing on such a structure. As you said, the vertical with the screw eyes will be very helpful with the support...that's how I've seen it done. Then, use the plastic tape (or similar) to attach. You are doing it the right way. Looks good.
A rose that has done well here in TN is "Parade" it's a deeper pink but with a full continuous bloom....vigorous and healthy!

Here is a link that might be useful: Parade at HMF

Looks like a very lovely and hardy series!

Sorry, I got behind on my forum reading and just found this topic. I put some bushs of Campfire in last spring and so I can't yet talk about hardiness although I think that is a given. We really enjoyed the flowers. The bushs bloomed all summer and were not bothered by bugs nor did they show any disease. The blooms keep changing colour so they are sometimes yellow and sometimes red and sometimes a combination. Definitely a winner in my Ontario garden. I will let everyone know how they do overwinter and into the second season.

Thank you, Pat. It's great to hear that because I just added Firefighter and Chrysler Imperial to my garden this season. I wonder are there any HT that smell even better than Peter Mayle?

If there is one, itâÂÂs Chrysler Imperialâ¦in my opinion, one of the best smelling HTs ever! I also have Mr Lincoln which has that old rose fragrance, but to me Firefighter and CI are more strongly scented. For a more citrusy scent, but very strong and heavenly, you might try Eternal Flame or Pope John Paul II or for a spicy, clove type scent there are Double Delight, Fragrant Cloud and Dolly Parton. Those all are good cut flowers, as well. This forum has several threads on fragrant roses you could search, but those are the HTs that come to mind off hand. If you are interested in OGRs, there are a lot of those with strong old rose fragrances, too, that you could search.

Ingrid. Yes it is hard, isn't it?
I am glad your dentist is gentle too. It makes all the difference.

We will be able to compare notes Kitty, as the season progresses. Both being new to Firefighter.

Henry. There is no sign of mildew yet, but it does have blackspot. This is the first time I have seen blackspot on a rose, since I moved here. I am not too worried though, as I expect it to clear up as we move into summer.
Daisy

Daisy, I suspect this will be a particularly bad year for us in terms of fungal diseases since I expect spring to be loooooong and humid. Spring has started in January already..
Nik

From the last paragraph of the page linked below (it sounds like they recommend using a foliar application for the John's Recipe product):

Fertilizer
Roses will bloom quite nicely on their own with lots of sunshine, but if you want more (and what gardener doesnâÂÂt?), you can fertilize. Fertilizing is for the active growing season and while roses never really go dormant in Central Texas, you donâÂÂt want to create a lot of new growth when it might freeze off or stress out a plant trying to cope with a brutal summer. March to May and then October to December are the best time slots for fertilizing. Lady Bug Brand Flower Power is a good choice if you want a dry, sprinkle-on option. Each feeding lasts 4 to 6 weeks and needs only to be watered in. Lady Bug JohnâÂÂs Recipe is also an excellent choice for those who prefer a more regular weekly or bimonthly feeding for the whole garden and are not afraid to wield a hose-end sprayer.

Here is a link that might be useful: Ladybug Brand How To Articles: Roses

Soil drench commonly means applying the solution to the soil in the same way and with the same volume as when watering the plant.
Nik