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What a tragedy. It is certainly true that communicating with cleaning ladies is important, and can sometimes be complicated.
The first time our new service came to our house (5 ladies, one of whom spoke English), they broke both of my brand new dishwashers, and also a brand new expensive stove/oven. They sprayed cleaning whatever all over the front of them, and scrubbed (these ladies are great cleaners, and scrub everything until it shines). Well, of course all three appliances had computerized controls on the front of them, which got fried as the controls took the scrubbing as input. Luckily, all three appliances were still on warranty, so it didn't cost us anything. Learned my lesson. With some investigation I discovered that all three had a "lock" command, which made it so that they ignored any instructions. Also I now have little bi-lingual notes I put on the controls of each every week, which say "please do not spray anything on the electronic controls", with arrows pointing to the controls. It works - no problems in the past 4 years.
I also have little notes in the living room on an antique clock, and shelves containing a fragile collection, that say "please do not touch". Of course, I don't dust those shelves myself as often as I ought to. One day after the ladies left, I found a very polite note to the effect that they thought I should dust those shelves!
Jackie

LOL, Jackie!
A neighbor/friend had a (wonderful, truly) cleaning lady scrub off the patina of an antique copper piece--the century or two old patina that increased its value & beauty, impossible to duplicate. Dang, that lady must have scrubbed for HOURS to get it like that--it shone like a mirror & our neighbor said she was so proud of her labor.
Our friend is very kind & soft spoken, she just held back her tears & gently explained to the lady to please not scrub down the antique things.
Whaddaya gonna do?
The same neighbor's little boy, with my little brother, tediously removed all the *nasty* tags on my Mother's roses & other plants & told her proudly of their good deed...
Perhaps there is Karma. My mother & her sister, when they were little girls, would pick a neighbor lady's flowers &then knock on her door to present them to her. The dear old lady would always throw up her hands & exclaim to her husband, "look, dear! the girls have brought me flowers!"
Then she would invite them in & serve them tea in her tiny little antique porcelain cups.
Aren't some folks kind? You can be sure, 80+ years later, Mother never forgot the kindness of that sweet lady.

You're welcome sir! There are sources (rather convenient ones, too) of virus indexed root stock. No matter what you're budding, starting off with as clean a stock as possible is worth the effort. Depending upon what you wish to bud, you may have a clean (or dirty) plant, but it's worth making the effort to keep it as clean as possible. Particularly in a climate with winters as extreme as yours can be.

Streisand Fan,
(This is way off topic....) but.....
I have a black on white picture of Barbara Streisand that was made up of tiny ink pen dots that you may be interested in owning. If so let me know as I have no use for it. The size is 20”W x 24” H. It's quite old but has never been out of it's holder so the sun has not faded it one bit. An artist friend made it and gave it to us as she didn't need it.

I have the wild one and one of the hybrids with a lavender bloom. Nothing has worked, so I'm going to try to "solarize" them under black plastic to see if it will just cook the bulbletts. I have no idea if it will work or not, but I'm desperate. It seems like Florida sun should fry anything under black plastic. I've been fighting them for years.

Jackie, I had the word "sour grass" also as a child in central Florida (then a southern culture) many years ago.
The oxalis here doesn't go dormant in summer. The little bulbs are only a few inches deep. Still, it is a nuisance because it loves nestling up to the thorny base of rose bushes.

Thanks Dingo and Patty! :-) We can all report back next year, see how they are doing. Patty, sorry to hear yours has midge, I hope you can keep it. I know you don't spray, Bioneem is a organic spray, it can control midge if you spray it weekly, it costs about $12 to $16 a bottle (concentrate).

In the PNW, zone 7, I would think it would be fine to move it now. It should still have at least a couple of months to settle into it's new spot before winter hits.
First water it very well the day before the move. The day of the move dig the new hole as big as possible first and test it for drainage and amend it however you usually do. If it is a very large bush you may want to trim it back by about 1/3 before trying to move it. This will also help the reduced root ball to be able to supply adequate food and water to the plant once it's moved. If you are moving it a long distance get a wheel barrow or tarp to make it easier to move. When you dig it out try to get a good sized root ball and keep it intact as much as possible. Place it in the wheel barrow or on the tarp and move it to the new site. Set it in the new hole and back fill about half way and water it in. Finish back filling and then water it again. It may show some signs of wilt from transplant shock but that should go away quickly. Keep it well watered for at least the first week and do not fertilize it until you start to see new top growth.


IMHO, the pictures don't look quite right for Harison's Yellow. The flower form is off, the leaves are off, and the plant habit is off. Every time I see a picture of Persian Yellow, the plant strikes me as very elegant. It's more like a double form of Father Hugo than any relation of Harison's Yellow. I've just never been able to drum up any affection for that one.


Roses have an immune system that fights PNRSV (the most common virus of the viruses that exhibit mosaic symptoms in roses). This immune system is temperature dependent. It works well at high temperatures. Since you are in Mexico, you should not have much of a problem with it if it is PNRSV.
https://sites.google.com/site/temperatureandrosemosaicvirus/


I've bought 3 container roses from Low's during the past few years and they have been very good additions to my garden. Two own root (Pink Knock Out and Dark Desire) that are very vigorous. Growing and blooming like crazy. One grafted (Charisma) that has done VERY well and survived 2 nasty winters. I'd be picky and REALLY look any container grown roses over before I plop down any $$$$.

I've planted a few container roses when I can find something I like at our limited supply rose dealers. I prefer own root due to our cold, long winters but the container roses I have bought have done well so far. One nice thing with container roses is that if they're in bloom you know that you are indeed getting the correct rose. I have gotten some mistagged mail order roses. I bought 'Bolero' rose from HD last year. It wintered over no problem and is super healthy and blooming well. 'Julia Child' suffered severe winter dieback but is doing extremely well despite her needing to be cut literally to the crown. I also was lucky enough to find Easy Elegance own root 'Yellow Submarine' and 'Centennial'. Both are very good repeat bloomers and super healthy. 'Centennial' went through our brutal winter pretty much untouched and has the most exquisite pale apricot to white blooms. 'Yellow Submarine' is new this year but I would purchase her again if I could find a second one!! The blooms are such a pretty shade of yellow and she has no black spot!








How cold did it get? I am glad your season is not over.
Michael - :)
Stillanntn - I've never tried fried green tomatoes, let alone with gravy/sausage. :) I have seen the movie though - Fried Green Tomatoes. I do like the idea of making lemonade out of problems. :)
Kentuckyrose - It only got down to 1C (33.8 F). Thank goodness it didn't go down a few more degrees to below freezing - goodbye tomatoes.!
Carol