22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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charleney(8a PNW)

Thanks MichaelG. I will see if I can find the BT that is used before. What does it do to the earthworms that I keep feeding, though?

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Doesn't affect anything but caterpillars (moth and butterfly larvae). Takes a few days to kill, but they stop feeding sooner.

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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Thanks Seil, I tried to mound the soil up around it and just watering it in partially washed the mounded soil away from it already. [g] OK, 2-4 inches deep. It's raining right now and will be through most of Saturday, so Sunday or Monday will work.

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Too-Much

Honestly, if I dig a 2 ft by 2ft hole my problem is usually planting the rose too deep. The risk is that it will die back to the ground in winter. I just moved 39 roses and I just watered them every day for two weeks. They stopped growing for about a week, but now they seem fine. If it were me I'd just replant it deeper now rather than risk it. I don't think the shock would be that bad.

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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Thanks, Seil, but the one cane isn't looking that good. I think the pith is dry. :(
I'd have left the dead leaves on the plant if I'd known they would shade the canes. I feel like an even bigger idiot.
File this under "My Most Stupid Gardening Mistakes."
I think I'll dig the poor thing up and get another rose. And treat it well.
Sylvia

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charleney(8a PNW)

Do not feel like an idiot! We have all done stuff like that! Chalk it up to experience. I , also don't think you have lost that rose. Just prune back the tops to good wood and give it good, semi-shaded, location. Dappled! And don't worry so much. I will bet it will come back. Keeping the good thoughts for you! Maybe turn a lawn chair over and use that as a screen from the hot sun!

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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

I think the advice is spot-on, so I don't have anything to add there. However, I'm also in NJ, and I wanted to share in your excitement about the impending first-flush -- I'm also seeing buds everywhere! There's going to be something spectacular going on in the next week.

:-)

~Christopher

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Post pics when they burst!

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arcus_85(5b)

Lori, as of right now the Columbus show is still going to be on June 7th at The Columbus Park Of Roses.

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Thunder12(5b)

Arcus, Thanks for the information - I'm sure the show will be beautiful!

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roseseek(9)

Thanks, M! The rain and some of the wonderful looking roses you have, we can't get, would be wonderful! I'll happily send you all the heat and sun possible. Today, it's gray and overcast with a chilly breeze. LOVELY! Kim

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DrPekeMom

Many thanks for the help, Kim.

Stupid weather.

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seil zone 6b MI

I'm with buford, that looks like freeze damage.

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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Ok. Thanks!
Susan

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Just what we need another disease from insects... :-/
Thanks for the info ... Kim

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roseseek(9)

You're welcome, Jim. Forewarned is forearmed. I pray no one has to deal with this. Kim

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

A Beauty! Another fan of Pearly Gates, and America from which it sported. Both are strongly & deliciously scented, abundant with bloom nearly continuously, hardy & healthy grown organically in this humid & wet central VA garden. Find their colors charming together or alone, mirror images of each other. Both glimmer with an inner light. Give it a bit more time & consider training those laterals horizontally along the fence slats.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pearly Gates

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rathersmallbunny(9)

So great to hear more stories about this lovely rose from everyone! I think Pearly Gates will make a good cutting flower too as the stems are fairly long. Strangely, mine doesn't have much scent, but it's been very hot and dry here in CA, so maybe that affects it. I would love to train it laterally along the fence, but what the picture doesn't show is that there are roses on both sides. I guess I got greedy trying to fill up all available space. Hopefully it will still bloom if it's trained vertically!

Mikeber - sorry to hear yours got shovel pruned. :(

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buford(7 NE GA)

The Bayer all in one is not a great product. You have minimal blackspot protection and a lot of insecticide and chemical fertilizer. As others have said, aphids do not require insecticide. Just wipe them off or blast with the hose.

For blackspot, see if you can find the Bayer Disease Control. That is mixed with water and sprayed. It is very effective.

The only time I use the All in one is if there is a really bad infestation on a plant like lacebugs on an azalea. It's really overkill for aphids.

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seil zone 6b MI

I try not to use chemicals if I can because I don't like them for a number of reasons but when I get a really bad case of black spot through out the garden late in the season I will use it. I need my roses to go into winter healthy so they'll survive. I use the Bayer disease control only and it works very well. I never get multi products because they seem like a waste to me. I have black spot not insects so why spray for bugs I don't have? Besides you're probably killing off beneficial insects that could cause you to have a worse problem later. And I fertilize regularly so why add more that's not needed? Use the correct product for what ever the problem is and don't add a bunch of stuff you don't really need. Works for me!

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paola_b(CA z10b/Sunset 23)

Thank you, but there are no leaves anyhow. I just got those two roses packed in plastic and bareroot. The mildew is on canes, bud union and even on roots. I cut whatever I could and placed them in water to soak. It would be good to kill the virus somehow.
Please help!

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seil zone 6b MI

Soak them in a diluted bleach solution for a bit and then pot them up and isolate them from your other roses until it clears up. However, the fungus that causes mildew is already present in your garden and only needs the right weather conditions to grow and show up on your roses. You really can't prevent it from showing up if the conditions are right for it.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

That's the sort of thing that could be rose midge damage, but they are usually not severe in the early season--only a few survive the winter.

Please add your state and climate zone to your signature. Rose midge has a limited range. Also eastern zone 7 and thereabouts had a severe late frost in mid-April that would cause that type of damage. I had to do a lot of re-pruning.

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barefootgirl(z5b NE Ohio)

Rose midge is already doing damage in my zone 5 garden. Guess the winter didn't kill the little bastards as I'd hoped. And yes, this does look like rose midge.

This post was edited by barefootgirl on Thu, May 22, 14 at 15:23

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roseseek(9)

duplicated post edited out

This post was edited by roseseek on Wed, May 21, 14 at 22:32

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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

Thank you everyone! I won't worry about her then, as she does seem to be one of my healthiest roses. it's such a relief that I don't have to shovel her and lose a month's worth of root development.

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

I used to just keep putting down new mulch over the old--but after years it wasn't completely rotting into the ground & it was nasty, so I raked it all off & started anew. Now, like I said, I use the mulch in the rose collars when I winterize.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

You don't need to change your zone because of an atypical winter.

Another rose you might look at is 'Les Sjulin'. It is definitely high centered, but doesn't hold form as long as most HTs.

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kans

Thanks everybody,
Thanks vasue for your details on my roses!
I live in Melbourne,Australia.
The space is 15.5 m in length, 1 m width.
I am planing on 15 roses. I read i have to plant them 1m apart????

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kans

And Btw that's Renmark rose - salmon pink.

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