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Now you've got me considering Coral Dawn again for this garden. Searched GW & found the linked thread. The member familiar with this rose, zjw, doesn't seem to have email enabled, but perhaps you could flag them down on the Antique Roses Forum. And wow! 5,000 roses on order from Vintage in 2012.
Here is a link that might be useful: Anyone grow climbing Coral Dawn...?
I haven't yet grown Coral Dawn but I'll go for bonus point on Mme. Carolyn Testout. She's a moderate monster in my zone and like more so in yours, so plan accordingly. She is on one side of a maybe 8-9' arch here in zone 5, and most years she'll stretch fully across it to the other side. Even this year after being cut to the ground a few weeks ago, she's already 2 feet tall and climbing. The thing to watch is that she has very stiff canes quite quickly in her growth, so be sure to shape the canes horizontally as soon as possible before they harden up. She can put out monster thick canes when mature and they're a real bugger to try to bend at that point.
Hardiness isn't an issue for you, but in zone 5 she's a consistent trooper and one of the few that will reliably cover an arch in that color range.
Cynthia
I believe the extraction method for "rosewater" is glycerine. Rose otto, the essential oil, is made by pressing huge amounts of petals and stamens with things like olive presses.
You can also extract essential oily compounds from plants by soaking in alcohol, drinkable or not, and vinegar. I think this also works for non-oily parts, too.
A good book on making plant botanical salves and such should give you more detailed information.
jasminerose4u, rich soil, a thick mulch of good compost (keep the compost from coming into contact with the stems) and never, ever, ever let the soil dry out. Don't drown it of course, but dry soil is fatal. Try a weak fertilizer like fish emulsion at half the recommended strength every couple of weeks. They like fertilizer.
Roses Unlimited had 1 Earth Song left so they are sending it to me later this month. I really do appreciate all the information and suggestions. I realize there is some risk with this rose and it may take a couple years to get going, but I'm prepared to give it a try and see how it does!
Congratulations Vickima! Earth Song reportedly does fine on its own roots and Roses Unlimited is a good source. My roses from them arrived in gallon pots and some had buds, ready to bloom. I hope the rose will do well for you. Looking forward to seeing future photographs :)
Bonnie
Like the copper plant markers in their various forms & find the legged & angled ones that can be embossed with a pen or scribe most useful. Sometimes add the long twist-on labels to the legged one if wanting to note more info. These last many years for me even in acidic soil - the galvanized legs are eventually vulnerable, but the copper strips endure. Easily repositioned toward the edge as plants mature or are shifted, or (sigh) removed if they fail. The zinc ones apparently work the same but worried they might toxify the soil, never tried them.
Map plants, too - pen & pad tucked in the tool bucket for rough sketch notes & updates made to penciled diagrams afterwards. But out in the garden, find it easier to find & read a marker than sidetrack inside to the map notebook.
Didn't know they made metal tape for the marker machines - thanks for the tip, cold_weather_is_evil! Will look into that option when my shoebox stash of copper labels empties. Miss the metal tags that used to come with roses, too...
Here is a link that might be useful: copper plant markers variety
This post was edited by vasue on Mon, May 19, 14 at 12:42
Thanks, cold_weather_is_evil, I was not aware of metal tape. That might be something I use in the future. And vasue, I had also considered copper markers. I do like the looks of them, but my handwriting is no so neat.
Diane, I was not aware that Frank Benardella was the founder of Harlane. Did he develop these markers? I've admired his mini roses for many years, and owned more than a few. I had forgotten he was from NJ. I was deeply saddened to hear of his passing, it seemed the end of an era for rose lovers. And your suggestion of painted name rocks is a good one. This could be really neat if done right. Another idea to consider.
Right now I've decided on the dark green Harlanes with white letters, should both blend in the garden but be easily readable. I've placed an order for 25 engraved labels for my definite "keepers", will see how I like them before ordering more. I'd still love to see your pics of them in the garden, if you get a chance.
Yes, the garage is best for wintering them. You want to wait until you are sure they are dormant and then move them inside the garage. They don't need to be in a window or anything but do put them up on something to get them off the concrete. And water them all winter. It doesn't need to be a lot of water and maybe only once a month but make sure they get some water over the winter. You can put a shovel of snow on the top of the pot every time you shovel or pour a gallon of water on the pot once a month. Just remember to water them and they'll do much better. In the spring when it starts to warm up put them back outside. You may need to take them in and out a few times depending on the weather but they should make it through.
Yes, I do. I live in Cleveland and I bought some 1.5 grade bare root roses last month. I put all of them in 12" containers because that is the max. weigh I am able to lift to move them inside in winter. Most of them are still alive and some of them have buds already. 1.5 grade is not a big problem, the key is they need to be alive and healthy when you buy them. Good luck.
The rose looks good to me.
If you want climbers to be their fullest, you need to train the shoots to go horizontally, not vertically. It's a pattern called espalier. Not sure how you would do that with your setup. You need some more lattice off to the sides. What happens is the new growth will go up vertically from the thick horizontal branches and those will produce blooms. You can then train the new growth on the ends to extend even further horizontally if you want. Trim off the old shoots when they stop growing this year.
Yes, patience. You've already applied some chelated iron in the fertilizer. I wouldn't buy it because you'll probably overdo it. But it should be on most garden counters. Don't look for "iron" in the name--it will be named GREENsomething or somethingGREEN.
We have a couple small roses here in the ground doing it... The ground here is still wet & cold so I'm going to wait...