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Mine is pretty white here. Set next to ivory 'French Lace' there is a considerable difference. The one that is really icy snow white is Aimee Vibert, but it is only a little whiter than Iceberg. It seems like 'Madame Hardy' is another really icy white, but it blooms so rarely here I haven't seen it recently and can't remember for sure. 'Snowbird' is creamy ivory as is 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria'. 'Fabulous' is pretty white. 'Fair Bianca' is very white but it's such a problem-plagued cultivar...'Glamis Castle' is very white also, whiter than Iceberg. 'Bolero' will often have a touch of pink.
Last month during the spring flush I gathered one of every single white or ivory rose in the garden and arrayed them all and took a photo of the range of whites. Then I did some gardening and forgot all about everything else and the flowers dried up. The next day when I went to look at the photos I realized the stupid memory card wasn't in the camera when I took the pictures. Boy was I mad. Next flush...maybe I'll get a photo.
Thank you everyone. Pat, your JFK looks amazing! I won't give up on mine yet. I'm sure we'll have plenty of hot weather, so I'll see what it does. Like I said this has been a very unusual spring. We've had several days of very cool weather after having about five days in the 90's. Lesley, you are so sweet. I love your rose gardens because you obviously have a knack for making it all come together and looking so beautiful with your other plantings. My spring preparation consists mostly of pruning and using Mills Rose Magic just about the time they begin to break dormancy. I do this because it's easy. I lightly prune most of my roses, this year the only roses that were pruned hard were the ones that had a lot of die-back, surprisingly I didn't have much problem with that. I have always felt like I have had a lot of luck when it comes to roses, I don't think I do anything that special, just the minimum of what anyone would do in caring for a plant. People tell me all the time they can't grow roses or they think it would be too difficult, so that's why they don't. Believe me, I've made my share of mistakes through the years and it seems like every year I learn a lesson of what I should have done, or not done!
This post was edited by Sara-Ann on Fri, May 16, 14 at 16:04
If you want to move the several roses which are too close to your house, you can do that - just cut them back by at least half, if you haven't just done that. That is because when your transplant them, it will damage their roots, and while the roots recuperate, they will not be able to support much top growth. Try to dig up as much of the root ball as you can. After you have re-planted them, DO NOT feet them. Be sure and give them lots of water, because as I said their roots will be damaged. Then just let them alone - they may not look as if they are doing anything for a while. What they will really be doing is growing new roots under the ground where you cannot see them. When they start to put out new top growth you can feed them - follow the directions.
Re the one that looks dead - I would just cut off all the dead canes and water it, and since it has green growth at the bottom already you could feed it too. Then WAIT for the new growth to grow and bloom. Then you will find out if you have the same rose you had last year, or if that one is dead and what you have is the rootstock growing up.
Definitely put pictures on here of both kinds of roses when they bloom (blooms and full bush shots, and shots showing the leaves clearly), and someone will be able to identify them for you.
Good Luck!
Jackie
I agree with Jackie, now is a good time to do any transplanting. You probably had to cut them back pretty far already because of winter die back so they're already prepped for moving.
You could move that other one too now if you'd like but my thinking is that if it's survived well there up to now it can't be as bad a spot as you think. I would let it be and see how it blooms this season, and look for a new spot for it if you wish, and then move it next season.
Check out Paul Zimmerman's video on how to rejuvenate a rose. To me, it looks like it is merely suffering from neglect, and has too much old/ dead wood on it, that needs to be removed. I'd take out all the dead wood first. Then, that long cane on the right of the photo: I'd cut that back to the upright little green stem,and water and fertilize...but check out the PZ video, or post your question on his forum "Roses are Plants, Too" is the name of the site. There are lots of knowledgeable people that not only know how to "fix" that rose, but also-unlike myself-can probably post a copy of your photo of the rose, with little lines showing exactly what to cut off! In general though I agree with Charleney,Zac and Cecily, though personally I don't see why you can't prune now, as long as you water a lot...bart
She doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides, or sprays of any kind. Fertilizer when she remembers, yearly soil amendment, and yearly mulching is the extent of her care besides watering. I generally dead head everything when I stop by. I haven't noticed mildew on Disneyland even though it's a regular problem here. The rust came on around August of last year and persisted to some degree through being pruned back in January. I'll check the foliage the next time I can to see how it looks this time of year.
Jay
I love Night Owl and Sombreuil climbing next to each other on a large trellis going up to a deck. I'm very fond of purples juxtaposed with cream, white, or yellow. I'm also excited about Rosette Delizy sandwiched by Monsieur Tillier and General Gallieni at my mom's house. It should be quite magnificent in a few years.
Jay
Rabbits LOVE roses. Prickles have no effect on them. They'll eat any rose tissue they can get in their mouths. Rats and squirrels do exactly the same thing. All of their damage is identical. The "cuts" are perfect 45 degree angles. Rabbits will each whatever they can get to, including new basal breaks from well established, mature bushes. I permit the petty spurge "weeds" to grow around my roses because the rabbits seem repelled by them. None of the new growth originating in those weeds is touched. Much of what isn't protected by them is eaten. If you can put up a physical barrier to protect the plants, it works best. If you can't, good luck! Kim
I live in NJ, like you, but along the coast. Fragrant Cloud is one rose I wouldn't be without. The flowers are just gorgeous, and the bush is strong and grows well. Except it does get blackspot here, so I have to spray regularly. If it does defoliate badly due to my lack of diligence it comes back fairly well in the fall. Perfume Delight, though pretty, is not a "must have" for me. My other "must have" that I have to baby through blackspot is Just Joey. I'll do what I can to keep it going in my garden.
Thanks everyone.
Doesn't sound like either is great.
Didn't buy either, bought Francis Meilland instead!