22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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shel-co

Thank you very much ...The roses will grow if they are kinda in the shade right?

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seil zone 6b MI

It depends on what you mean by "kinda in the shade". Knock Outs will pretty much grow anywhere. The thing is they need the sun to bloom well. If they're getting at least 6 hours of sun a day they should be fine. Anything less than that and they may grow but not bloom.

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jacqueline9CA

If you want to move the several roses which are too close to your house, you can do that - just cut them back by at least half, if you haven't just done that. That is because when your transplant them, it will damage their roots, and while the roots recuperate, they will not be able to support much top growth. Try to dig up as much of the root ball as you can. After you have re-planted them, DO NOT feet them. Be sure and give them lots of water, because as I said their roots will be damaged. Then just let them alone - they may not look as if they are doing anything for a while. What they will really be doing is growing new roots under the ground where you cannot see them. When they start to put out new top growth you can feed them - follow the directions.

Re the one that looks dead - I would just cut off all the dead canes and water it, and since it has green growth at the bottom already you could feed it too. Then WAIT for the new growth to grow and bloom. Then you will find out if you have the same rose you had last year, or if that one is dead and what you have is the rootstock growing up.

Definitely put pictures on here of both kinds of roses when they bloom (blooms and full bush shots, and shots showing the leaves clearly), and someone will be able to identify them for you.

Good Luck!

Jackie

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seil zone 6b MI

I agree with Jackie, now is a good time to do any transplanting. You probably had to cut them back pretty far already because of winter die back so they're already prepped for moving.

You could move that other one too now if you'd like but my thinking is that if it's survived well there up to now it can't be as bad a spot as you think. I would let it be and see how it blooms this season, and look for a new spot for it if you wish, and then move it next season.

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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Yeppers, the yellows tend to be the heat lovers...at least that's been my experience in growing roses. :-)

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Despite the ferocious heat, this one hasn't dropped a single petal.

Unfortunately. ;^)

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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

Check out Paul Zimmerman's video on how to rejuvenate a rose. To me, it looks like it is merely suffering from neglect, and has too much old/ dead wood on it, that needs to be removed. I'd take out all the dead wood first. Then, that long cane on the right of the photo: I'd cut that back to the upright little green stem,and water and fertilize...but check out the PZ video, or post your question on his forum "Roses are Plants, Too" is the name of the site. There are lots of knowledgeable people that not only know how to "fix" that rose, but also-unlike myself-can probably post a copy of your photo of the rose, with little lines showing exactly what to cut off! In general though I agree with Charleney,Zac and Cecily, though personally I don't see why you can't prune now, as long as you water a lot...bart

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charleney(8a PNW)

yes to Bart...Check out Paul Zimmerman video ...I thought I knew a lot, and PZ is fantastic!

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seil zone 6b MI

What Ann said. The only way to be sure is to let it grow and see what happens.

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buford(7 NE GA)

I can usually tell if the shoots are root stock or the real rose. I have mostly Dr. Huey and the canes grow very tall and straight up and FAST and never get buds, except on the Dr. Huey's that I've left to grow from the past year.

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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z9a

I grew Cl. Iceberg at my previous home. There it received 4.5 hours of sun from about 10:30 until about 3. It was healthy and very floriferous when in bloom.

Lynn

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Leezen, are those electrical conduits you are using with your roses?

Bet I could make some quick tripods with those for a second row of roses that need a bit more sun...hmmm

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paola_b(CA z10b/Sunset 23)

Thank you, Jay.
Would you happen to know if your mom uses fungicides?

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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

She doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides, or sprays of any kind. Fertilizer when she remembers, yearly soil amendment, and yearly mulching is the extent of her care besides watering. I generally dead head everything when I stop by. I haven't noticed mildew on Disneyland even though it's a regular problem here. The rust came on around August of last year and persisted to some degree through being pruned back in January. I'll check the foliage the next time I can to see how it looks this time of year.

Jay

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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

I love Night Owl and Sombreuil climbing next to each other on a large trellis going up to a deck. I'm very fond of purples juxtaposed with cream, white, or yellow. I'm also excited about Rosette Delizy sandwiched by Monsieur Tillier and General Gallieni at my mom's house. It should be quite magnificent in a few years.

Jay

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

I love the deep yellows next to the fuschias.

This is Ch-Ching next to Peter Mayle.

Carol

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roseseek(9)

Rabbits LOVE roses. Prickles have no effect on them. They'll eat any rose tissue they can get in their mouths. Rats and squirrels do exactly the same thing. All of their damage is identical. The "cuts" are perfect 45 degree angles. Rabbits will each whatever they can get to, including new basal breaks from well established, mature bushes. I permit the petty spurge "weeds" to grow around my roses because the rabbits seem repelled by them. None of the new growth originating in those weeds is touched. Much of what isn't protected by them is eaten. If you can put up a physical barrier to protect the plants, it works best. If you can't, good luck! Kim

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flowergirl70ks

Thank you all for the advice. In all my gardening years, I have never had rabbit damage on roses before. The fence goes up. I have one around my spinach and lettuce, so why not a rose?

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sara_ann-z6bok

Fuller blooms today.

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socks

Wow, she must be very proud and happy with that beauty!

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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

Looks like shock to me, totally normal. I wouldn't do anything except make sure it has water and let it be.

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thedogsLL(6B)

Thank you, brittie. I do appreciate the response. :)

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Malcolm1

Can anyone recommend a type of glove for working roses

?

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flowergirl70ks

Gloves for working with roses, yes. Goatskin.
Now for the woman who got stuck.Do you spray your roses? If so, I think you should see a Dr right away and take the spray bottle with you. I feel Dr's and antibiotics were put here for our use when we need them.

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rathersmallbunny(9)

Yup, sure looks like Julia Child to me as well! Mine has a nice fragrance, with slight licorice notes. Blooms don't last that long and have very short stems, but are very pretty. Good luck - hope she blooms well for you! :)

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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you. Now I have 3 Julia Childs! The newly planted ones haven't bloomed yet, but have quite a few buds, when they bloom I'll know for sure, but I'm fairly certain this one is, especially after your help.

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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Twilight Zone rose and Dark night!
(Ancient Aliens show lover here!)

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jadie88(7 MD)

In addition to the others mentioned, there is also a hosta 'Stargate.'

If there are any Doctor Who themed plants out there, I'd be all over them!

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Gorgeous! I've always loved Pompon Blanc.

My deer at least usually wait until they open (unlike the bunnies), so I figure it's like very quick deadheading ;)

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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

The only thing that's ever worked reliably for me is the Scarecrow Motion Sensor water sprayer from Do Your Own Pest Control. It's $50, but worth it to save the hundreds in damage they'll do. You can watch videos of it in action on YouTube.
The best part- it's safe and harmless to the critters. I've had mine for 2 years. I hope you'll get more blooms soon!

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