22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

That's O.K. We were just trying to imagine anyway.

If there was a true blue rose on the market it would hit the big headlines and it would be on the cover of the American Rose Magazine, as they are in charge of all new rose registrations. Being a member of the American Rose Society, I would think that we might know it before the public.
As far as i know the prize money has not been paid.
As I recall the rose on the cover of the American Rose Society's Magazine was a almost sky blue.

Mulching is only done for 'summer' mulch. The kind of mulch that is put down for water conservation and weed suppression that goes *around* the rose and doesn't touch the canes.

If you must pile stuff on the roses, pile snow. It will obediently disappear when you don't want it, and does have a strong tendency to show up when you do need it.

If you bet on snow covering when it gets cold, you win most of the time. In more than 20 years, I only remember once when we had an open winter, and the roses didn't seem to mind that. If you bet on no January thaw that will cause fungal problems under some sort of winter protection, you will probably lose more than half the time. A lot more roses here have been killed by winter protection than cold, and I am north of you.

Boy, are you dreaming about the plants blooming by July in their first year
I don't get any good bloom for three years! Get yourself some nice annuals and plant them. You'll get tons of blooms from them. You won't with the roses ! Your zone 6, and not many roses are blooming at that time of year. It is too hot!

If that's an small, own root plant, you don't have any issues other than it is still immature. I'd bet if you pinch off the flowers to encourage that energy to go into plant creation, you'll have the results you want faster. What you're seeing is what happens with many which prefer to flower at the expense of growth. You may choose to accept its doing its own thing until it develops into the plant you expect, or you can encourage it to generate that bushy mass faster by not letting it flower until it more closely approximates what you expect. Either way, it'll get there. Preventing it from flowering should simply get it there faster. Kim

The way the weather has been around here the only place that I will cut is right at the base of the plant! I have to cut my back every year to the ground. Mine get pruned 3-4 times a year because I'm always cutting for a Show. The only rest they get is in July and August.

Micro minis also won't live indoors. it's not the size of the rose -- it's the conditions -- roses need to be outdoors, all sizes.

Mostly it's the light -- they need direct sunlight (which is a need not met by light through a window).

Roses are even hard to grow in a greenhouse! They have disease problems!

Thank you Seil and catsrose for your reply.
This is as Label states a "SUN FLARE"
Catsrose the red line with the arrow is where i assumed the graft is, so i will definatly not cut that especially that you confirmed my assumption.
Seil i noticed stuff growing from the hard wood, but i thought (from what i watched and read) that I am supposed to cut old wood and keep younger wiid since it is more vigorous and will give better roses and so on. If i were to do that should i replace a cane a year? is this even recommended for Floribunda Roses?

It isn't necessary to thin floribundas. Thinning is usually done for climbers. As I said, that rose looks pretty healthy as is so I wouldn't do much pruning except to the tips where there may be some dead wood I can't see.

I planted a variety of evergreen plants, both shrubs and groundcover types. These areas receive regular watering. I wouldn't be posting here if the problems were ordinary. They are not. I have noticed situations that I would not expect as a fairly experienced gardener. That is why I have posted here.

It is perfectly possible for fungal problems such as a verticillium wilt...or armeria....to cause growth problems. In the UK, land which has been used for growing roses is not suitable for growing other roses - Rose Replant Syndrome....or rose sickness......but this tends to only affect roses and close relatives in the rosaceae family.
A bit more information would be helpful - how are they dying? All of the plant? parts of the plant? Do they change, looking dry and shrivelled, say? Do they just fail to thrive? And pictures would be really useful, if you can.

There are several modern shrub roses that also have high center blooms. One that I have & really like is Dr. Buck's 'Honey Sweet'. The reason this rose & other roses he hybridized have this high center is that he used some HT's in his program to get different bloom colors & forms.

Here is a link that might be useful: Honey Sweet on hmf.com

Very true, any type of rose can have that form but it's usually associated most with hybrid teas I think. As in a rose having "classic HT form". But there are a lot of HTs that don't have that form either and would be considered more decorative than high centered. And even if a rose has that form the centers aren't always exactly "high" anyway. I get a lot of HTs where the centers are sunken in instead of thrust up. And it seems that happens a lot right around my show season, lol!

Sorry, you did say new growth. Maybe these new glasses need checking after all.

Here's what sunburnt rose foliage looks like:

That's a great example, hoov!

Thank you for the info kstrong.

I have Let Freedom Ring and picked up additional bare roots from the nursery last weekend. I ordered both Veterans' Honor and Opening Night but then thought they were the same so I exchanged Opening Night for Firefighter. Good thing that's not a bad decision since I really like florist/exhibition roses form that can perform well in the garden.

Here are the reds that I have (include the new bare roots):
-Scarlet Knight (my first red when I didn't know a lot about roses. I'm still learning.)
- Mr Lincoln (it turns pink sometimes and doesn't bloom very often)
- Ingrid Bergman
- Veterans' Honor
- Firefighter
- Chrysler Imperial
- Love's Promise
- Black Magic

I have a small garden but decide to set a goal for myself to plant the most velvet red HT rose. Wish me luck :)

You will love Firefighter...a great rose in form and scent. I have two!! Have you checked out Janice Kellog or Ascot? Both are lovely reds here in my KY. garden. Maybe someone in your area can comment on these. I just love red roses. Lesley

Don Juan did have a reproductive reputation...

If there was a "like" button on gardenweb, I'd "like" your comment, catsrose.

I was able make it to the wake....his little wife is such a sweet lady. Talked with one daughter...there was all kinds of Rosenut things there.....I am so glad i went....such a loss to my area. I wished I would have been more in contact with him.

This is really sad to hear, thank you for posting the news. I always enjoyed reading his posts and checking in at his website from time to time. My condolences to the family, Jay

"What I love more than that though is continuous bloom during the season."

Oh, definately! The biggest reason I don't want once bloomers is because they bloom on old wood; if something should happen to them I might need to wait two years before I get any flowers. Equally, and perhaps most important, is their desease resistance. I don't spray and I don't want to spray, so any rose that's susceptable to desease won't survive with me. I'm also new with roses, so that adds to the necessity.

I'm so excited to be getting roses! It's felt like spring all winter because I just picture them all blooming. I have to be careful, or this can become an addiction ;)

I tend to fawn over quartered, flat blooms. It may be that after first looking through Rose Encyclopediae, more Centifolias, Gallicas, Damasks, and HPs were on my lists of "most beautiful blooms" than any other and the disappointment I felt when I learned they would never thrive here in Santa Monica strengthens my desire for those shapes.

I love lots of petals typically, but I count Mrs. Oakley Fisher amongst my favorites on account of the color. Color is very important, but I do like all sorts of colors in roses. In descending order, I consider White, Apricot, Dark Dark Red verging on Purple, Light Yellow verging on Cream, and crazy blends/bis/striped/unusual roses as my favorites. I have tendencies, but no strict 'rules' or absolutes.

Again in descending order, some of my favorite blooms are Madame Hardy, Reine des Violettes, Gloire de Dijon, Blanchefleur, Lady Hillingdon, Boule de Neige, Mrs. Oakley Fisher, Distant Drums, Crown Princess Margareta, Etoile de Lyon, Felicia, and Hot Cocoa.

Jay