22,796 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you, hoov, but I'm afraid I have lots of ugly roses sometimes, lol. Especially this spring!

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missmary(6b/7a MD)

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll be relooking at Home Run - and considering the other suggestions too. I'm excited!
Miss Mary

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canadianplant

its possible. It seems my only chance is to get it close to a wall and mulch it to all hell. To be fair I have never tried mounding soil.

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lynnette

Evening Star should do well with mulch in zone 5. I grew it by the sea where gale force winds in the winter hit it and it never even had any dieback. IMO it is one of the best white floribundas. No disease and good vigour. Don't think it had any fragrance.

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caldonbeck(UK (8))

Green bananas :-0

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jaymo49

Thanks, folks,
I'll check it out when I visit next week, probably will replace them if it is iffy.

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deervssteve(9)

planted last year, bare root, full sun, weather is mild.

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seil zone 6b MI

Hmmm. it looks thirsty to me. Check deep and see if it's not getting enough water. Some roses need more than others.

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pat_bamaz7

Most, if not all, hybrid teas require spraying with fungicide in our humidity. Some need to be sprayed every 2 weeks, but some can be sprayed monthly or less. There are some that, no matter how much you spray, will still suffer from fungal issues in our high humidityâ¦Angel Face and Chrysler Imperial come to mind off hand. If you use the Bayer brand fungicide spray (I believe its official name is Bayer Advanced Disease Controlâ¦just the fungicide spray, not the one with insecticide included), it is a cure, as well as, a preventative. By using it, you can wait until a rose starts to show signs of blackspot to spray (infected leaves wonâÂÂt turn back green, but the fungus will be killed). If you use a spray that is a preventative only, more frequent spraying will be necessary to combat fungal problems. Spraying a chemical fungicide is not difficult, but it is a chemical you are spraying in the environment. If you want a chemical free garden, there are organic alternatives, but they usually are not as effective in treating and preventing blackspot in high humidity climates. Many gardeners use chemical fungicides, but many are adamantly against it. You will want to do some research and make your own decision on that.
As far as antique roses, you wonâÂÂt get the high centered exhibition form or as long a vase life from them. There are some charming antiques that would be great, disease resistant performers in your climate, though. Teas, noisettes, chinas and polyanthas would be good ones to look at, but again, the form, bloom size and vase life are different from moderns...and most of the teas and noisettes will get huge in your climate. You might want to consider some of the antique climbers for your fence and get hybrid teas as your shrubs or vice versa to see which you prefer long term. I was originally a hybrid tea fanatic, but have really come to appreciate the beauty and ease of the antiques lately.

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jovy1097(8B)

I highly recommend Belinda's Dream. I too live in Louisiana and it performs like a champion without any spraying for us. You could also try Quietness and Earthsong. If you want an old antique that gets about 8' x 8' and loves our climate, then give Mrs. B. R. Cant a try. I've got lots of information on an old blog that I haven't updated in a couple of years at the below link.

Here is a link that might be useful: Davy's Garden Blog

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Seeingreen

Sounds like your doing all the right things, I bet the rose will bounce back though it might take sometime, My only suggestion is it might be helpful for the rose to received some partial shade until it's root system is once again established. (If the temps are high in your area). I keep most of my roses on a porch in whiskey barrels and they seem quite content As for what the rose is, more pics could be helpful do you have any of the open blooms, a close up of the cains, maybe a pick of the full plant? Are the leaves glossy or matte? What is the color of new growth? If I was guessing off the cuff...it might be Joseph's Coat....but that's a big maybe

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seil zone 6b MI

Without seeing bloom pics we probably can't ID it. Without an ID we can't really tell you what else to do. Let grow for a bit, take more pics of everything and post those later on and maybe we can help you put a name to it.

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subk3

Lilyfinch, I'm in Franklin and like shopping at the True Value Garden Center, too. If you don't know about it you need to go check out Riverbend Nursery in Thompson Station. (Thompson Station Rd and Lewisburg Pike) Most of what they do is wholesale, but the also have a big retail setup. They usually have a good selection of perennials and annuals at very good prices. They also have a handful of roses, but really excel at shrubs, trees etc.

I love supporting my local businesses and will make the trek down there instead of the local box stores whenever I can.

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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Subk3! How cool that you live so close. I live in spring hill and have been to riverbend many times ! I agree about supporting local business . Sometimes things in franklin can be a little overpriced because of the area. Riverbend is very fair! And friendly !!

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Thank you all. I dug up the plant and put it in the pot and brought it to a filtered sun location. I was sorry to see some of the delicate roots break off, but I think the rose will be tough in that way. Against the extreme, radiated heat, not so tough. I too got this rose from Chamblees. It looked much better when it arrived than it does now. Good to hear that this rose is vigorous. Hopefully it will make a fine comeback. :)

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

And oh, yes...I'll get some mulch. Thank you for the reminder, Bluegirl.

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henry_kuska

I found the article, It was not blueberry, it was blackberry.

"The case of Blackberry chlorotic ringspot virus (BCRV) is of particular interest because the virus has been found to be an integral part of blackberry yellow vein disease and is widespread in rose plants affected by rose rosette disease."

http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-08-13-0866-RE

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

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buford(7 NE GA)

Ann, apparently it was an 'expert' that gave a seminar at the Greater Atlanta Rose Society. I was at their Rose Show yesterday and one of the members told me about it. I'm sure he either got it wrong or maybe this expert isn't really an expert.

Anyway, I am seeing SO MUCH multiflora this year. It's really scary.

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seil zone 6b MI

I've never noticed the beetles in my trees but I can't say I ever looked for them either. I don't get a ton of them (knock wood) so maybe that's why I never noticed any damage.

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mark_roeder(4B IA)

In 2013, due to the 2012 drought, we had a good summer with few beetles.

I planted my first garden plant today, I found a Japanese beetle grub. I found two June bugs. I thought grubs would be minimal since neighbors in our neighborhood had experienced frozen water pipes which were buried 4-feet or more deep. I was optimistic that our brutal winter killed them, but no.

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Lovely! I have 2 that have some winter damage, but survived the winter. It will probably be 2 more weeks before mine bloom.

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh! That IS lovely!!!
I agree with Seil - the red and lavender are so pretty together. Mmmmmm.!!
Carol

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lesmc

Sara-Annâ¦wonderful pictures. Your roses are beautiful and healthy. Tiffany is my favorite rose and yours is outstanding. No roses blooming here yet, but I am surprised that I only lost a few. Many are trying to come back. Late blooms this spring. Keep sharingâ¦your roses are lovely. Lesley

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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you, Lesley - I am so glad to hear from you and happy to know your roses fared better than you first thought, can't wait to see your beautiful gardens. I do agree, Tiffany is an outstanding rose, both mine have lots of blooms, the one in the picture looks a little better than the other one.

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jacqueline9CA

Thanks for the tip! I have always liked Lowes, but the nearest one to us was way too far away. Recently heard one is opening fairly close - will definitely check it out.

Jackie

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aahl

I bought Brandy at Witherspoon in Durham two years ago and it has done well. I don't know if they still have it or how expensive.

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bunnicula03(z6b NJ)

Several of my local Home Depots have Brandy, grafted. The selections do vary from store to store, so it's worth stopping in to check the selections at the big boxes if you have any nearby. I just picked up a Liv Tyler tree rose, I've been longing for Liv Tyler for two years.

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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

My William Baffin just laughed off the cold and is leafing out wonderfully. My Livin Easy rose is growing from the ground as all the upper canes look dead and my knockouts are doing the same. All upper canes above the ground look dead with new growth coming from the ground level

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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Westerland endured a tough winter here. Not as tough as yours though. Some dead cane. Some alive to the top.

What's important is that the regrowth has been uneven, Some canes looked bad but had late growth. Others looked OK, then died. Meanwhile, there is lots of new growth coming from the base.

I agree with Seil. Give it a few more weeks. Then prune out the dead wood. Even if you are down to 6", Westerland will recover quickly and add 4 or 5 feet of cane by mid summer as mine does every year here.

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