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Thank you Seil and catsrose for your reply.
This is as Label states a "SUN FLARE"
Catsrose the red line with the arrow is where i assumed the graft is, so i will definatly not cut that especially that you confirmed my assumption.
Seil i noticed stuff growing from the hard wood, but i thought (from what i watched and read) that I am supposed to cut old wood and keep younger wiid since it is more vigorous and will give better roses and so on. If i were to do that should i replace a cane a year? is this even recommended for Floribunda Roses?

It isn't necessary to thin floribundas. Thinning is usually done for climbers. As I said, that rose looks pretty healthy as is so I wouldn't do much pruning except to the tips where there may be some dead wood I can't see.

I planted a variety of evergreen plants, both shrubs and groundcover types. These areas receive regular watering. I wouldn't be posting here if the problems were ordinary. They are not. I have noticed situations that I would not expect as a fairly experienced gardener. That is why I have posted here.

It is perfectly possible for fungal problems such as a verticillium wilt...or armeria....to cause growth problems. In the UK, land which has been used for growing roses is not suitable for growing other roses - Rose Replant Syndrome....or rose sickness......but this tends to only affect roses and close relatives in the rosaceae family.
A bit more information would be helpful - how are they dying? All of the plant? parts of the plant? Do they change, looking dry and shrivelled, say? Do they just fail to thrive? And pictures would be really useful, if you can.

There are several modern shrub roses that also have high center blooms. One that I have & really like is Dr. Buck's 'Honey Sweet'. The reason this rose & other roses he hybridized have this high center is that he used some HT's in his program to get different bloom colors & forms.

Here is a link that might be useful: Honey Sweet on hmf.com

Very true, any type of rose can have that form but it's usually associated most with hybrid teas I think. As in a rose having "classic HT form". But there are a lot of HTs that don't have that form either and would be considered more decorative than high centered. And even if a rose has that form the centers aren't always exactly "high" anyway. I get a lot of HTs where the centers are sunken in instead of thrust up. And it seems that happens a lot right around my show season, lol!

Sorry, you did say new growth. Maybe these new glasses need checking after all.

Here's what sunburnt rose foliage looks like:

That's a great example, hoov!

Thank you for the info kstrong.

I have Let Freedom Ring and picked up additional bare roots from the nursery last weekend. I ordered both Veterans' Honor and Opening Night but then thought they were the same so I exchanged Opening Night for Firefighter. Good thing that's not a bad decision since I really like florist/exhibition roses form that can perform well in the garden.

Here are the reds that I have (include the new bare roots):
-Scarlet Knight (my first red when I didn't know a lot about roses. I'm still learning.)
- Mr Lincoln (it turns pink sometimes and doesn't bloom very often)
- Ingrid Bergman
- Veterans' Honor
- Firefighter
- Chrysler Imperial
- Love's Promise
- Black Magic

I have a small garden but decide to set a goal for myself to plant the most velvet red HT rose. Wish me luck :)

You will love Firefighter...a great rose in form and scent. I have two!! Have you checked out Janice Kellog or Ascot? Both are lovely reds here in my KY. garden. Maybe someone in your area can comment on these. I just love red roses. Lesley

Don Juan did have a reproductive reputation...

If there was a "like" button on gardenweb, I'd "like" your comment, catsrose.

I was able make it to the wake....his little wife is such a sweet lady. Talked with one daughter...there was all kinds of Rosenut things there.....I am so glad i went....such a loss to my area. I wished I would have been more in contact with him.

This is really sad to hear, thank you for posting the news. I always enjoyed reading his posts and checking in at his website from time to time. My condolences to the family, Jay

"What I love more than that though is continuous bloom during the season."

Oh, definately! The biggest reason I don't want once bloomers is because they bloom on old wood; if something should happen to them I might need to wait two years before I get any flowers. Equally, and perhaps most important, is their desease resistance. I don't spray and I don't want to spray, so any rose that's susceptable to desease won't survive with me. I'm also new with roses, so that adds to the necessity.

I'm so excited to be getting roses! It's felt like spring all winter because I just picture them all blooming. I have to be careful, or this can become an addiction ;)

I tend to fawn over quartered, flat blooms. It may be that after first looking through Rose Encyclopediae, more Centifolias, Gallicas, Damasks, and HPs were on my lists of "most beautiful blooms" than any other and the disappointment I felt when I learned they would never thrive here in Santa Monica strengthens my desire for those shapes.

I love lots of petals typically, but I count Mrs. Oakley Fisher amongst my favorites on account of the color. Color is very important, but I do like all sorts of colors in roses. In descending order, I consider White, Apricot, Dark Dark Red verging on Purple, Light Yellow verging on Cream, and crazy blends/bis/striped/unusual roses as my favorites. I have tendencies, but no strict 'rules' or absolutes.

Again in descending order, some of my favorite blooms are Madame Hardy, Reine des Violettes, Gloire de Dijon, Blanchefleur, Lady Hillingdon, Boule de Neige, Mrs. Oakley Fisher, Distant Drums, Crown Princess Margareta, Etoile de Lyon, Felicia, and Hot Cocoa.

Jay

I've ordered bulbs and plants from them as well and have had pretty good luck. Most have been healthy and grown as expected, and they've been good about replacement when things have gone awry. I did order a mystery grab bag last year and it took them more than six months to ship it - every time I checked the order status the shipping date had been pushed back. But in the end I got a nice selection of tulips, lilies, hyacinth and daffodils. We'll see how they grow this spring.

I saw an interesting thread from a couple years ago about Gardens Alive taking over Weeks roses - they also own Brecks, Spring Hill, Michigan Bulb, and a few catalog companies in Canada. It was pretty pessimistic for the most part.

I also sent Brecks an email asking about their supplier for roses and information about the rootstock used etc. They wrote back promptly (wrote it yesterday and heard back this morning) and politely told me that they couldn't tell me anything.

I'll be interested to hear about Neil Diamond this spring, Beth! They carry Diamond Eyes, which I'm trying to find, but not in Canada, which is where I live.

Karen

Here is a link that might be useful: previous thread about Weeks and Gardens Alive

From Weeks, they are most likely grafted on Dr. Huey rootstock.

I grow two Westerland as climbers. They fare well here. Hardy and vigorous reaching over ten feet with minimal feeding.

Although the blooms open orange, they quickly fade to salmon/yellow blend. At any time there may be anything from orange to a pastel light salmon or coral.

Originally I grew Betty Corning clematis, which is a light blue-purple, with Westerland. Betty soon overwhelmed the arbor and the rose.

I later transplanted Betty Corning and substituted the viticelli clematis Venosa Violacea

Thanks for the photos! I really like the colour comination in foto 2; the FADED Wland flowers with the clematis. That is sort of what I'm hoping to do: pair Wland up with paler apricot/pinky pastel companions so that even when it's flowers are at the colour-phase illustrated in photo 1,the general effect will be more like that in photo 2. The colour combination in Photo3 is great; I'd like to achieve something like that, but with a lot of the above-mentioned pastel colours mixed in...and some deep plum-coloured leaves ...

Plan that's what I was thinking

glow in the dark roses? for those of you who enjoy the great m. atwood, looks like we are heading to the "year of the flood" sooner than we think.... did the saloon where toby hid out had those.
next up, pigeon...

Campanula - Thanks for your helpful advice.

Sammy - I really do want to grow some of the antiques, they are really beautiful and evoke a feeling nostalgia. Right now I have Rose de Rescht, Reine des Violettes, Mme Isaac Pereire, and Zephirine Drouhin. I planted them all last spring and with the exception of Rose de Rescht, they bloomed very little. Those all came from Roses Unlimited. They all look really healthy and I am sure they will be fine, I just get a little anxious, I guess. I ordered a few more antiques, including SDLM, which you mentioned, this time from Pickering. I have seriously considered the teas and chinas, especially the teas, but have been a little afraid. Maybe I'll try one or two in 2015, they are really lovely. I saw the article you mentioned. I will try to find time to read it tomorrow, looks interesting. I have visited the Antique Rose Emporium a number of times, I love it!

Sammy - I should have said I have visited the Antique Rose Emporium "website" a number of times

bartleby1, I live in Brooklyn which as you know is not far from nyc. The USDA has revised its zone hardiness map so that we are now both in zone 7. It's too soon to prune now, so hold off until end of March/early April. Once you prune the rose will want to start growing so it's best to do that when the outside temps are warm enough.

Are there any rose nurseries near you that you can recommend? I'm looking for a new source as the choices in my neck of the woods are disappointing.

This is from someone who knows zip about roses sooooo, anyhow, may I suggest you take a few post-it notes, number them and stick them on the branches, then retake your pictures. That way Camp and others can direct you to the correct cane to cut. ie. above # 6 about 2 inches cut at a slant so etc etc.....