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Once I find the right spot among the roses I'll hang my new sign.

Love your sign toolbelt68!

Just a guess, lol, because it's still hard to know, but I think you might have some canker-dead or otherwise dead canes and I think they also got too dry recently.

It looks like they definitely need some pruning of the dead stuff, and I'd check carefully for cankers at the junctions of canes or at the bases. Or you might find holes down through the canes (I have bad borers, so that might just be me).

I don't think the major defoliation looks to be definitely related to the problem with the canes, though. It seems pretty sudden. Unless you have something weird going on with the roots (voles?), I think they probably just got too hot and dry recently. Once will do it ;)

I'd start by pruning (and checking the canes closely), and also make sure that the soil stays a little moist all the time. And look for critter holes nearby! I have voles, but I plant in wire cages now so that they can't eat the roots. That will cause very quick defoliation, but the rose will also usually pull out easily (and depressingly).

I'm not an expert, but the miracle grow in the hole when planting could cause fertilizer root burn. that should have been put on the top under mulch. I would just cut off the dead black canes , give them some mulch and keep up the deep watering, if it is fertilizer burn the deep watering should take care of it. Great of you to rescue these roses!

I buy them from different places. this one was from "Styleroses".

Time to bring this forum back!
It turns out I was impatient. My rose IS black baccara and gives me beautiful bouquet flowers! :D
Here is a photo of the first bloom! ^_^
I cannot wait for it to get bigger and give me vase-quality long stems and flowers! I love this bush ^_^

Thanks dublinbay. I'm so sad now. I should have ordered the potted ones.

Actually, in terms of blooming, you won't notice much difference over the course of the season.

Bareroots grow quickly and soon catch up with your potted roses--unless the potted ones have been that way for several years or something like that.

Kate

seil -- it is a doubel ko rose bought at Costco for $15. They had a ton of them and they were all good size.

I neglected to mention that we dug up and moved that sad little rose over a foot to better space the new one. I just hope I didn't kill it. That would be a whole waste of a year.

I am going to trim it, fertilize, and hope for the best!

You did not kill it. It is tough to kill a knockout. I initially hated mine, and subject them to various abuses (e.g., move in the middle of summer, worst garden real estate). They just hang tough and were barely bothered. Now, I have new appreciation for them and enjoy them a lot more. Other than a little winter kill, yours look fine.

As Kate, I prefer Black Baccara too :)
It has those bouquet flowers :D
It is a prolific bloomer too and has a nice fragrance to it. The fragrance is not noticable but when ou smell it, you'll be amazed :P
I cannot wait till it starts giving me longer stems!

If not black-red, then some other compact hardy roses to grow in central-west Massachusetts??

For roses that if I were growing them in your area, I would NEITHER protect nor pamper and still expect to be fabulous in a couple of years, then please see the list of roses in the post by

the_morden_man

in the thread linked below:

Here is a link that might be useful: most blackspot resistant hybrid tea?

Oh, I see they were sold to another company. I know when I ordered from them years ago, they had great customer service. I finally got the roses, they look fine, except one of them had a cane that was ripped so badly, I had to cut it off. I believe I am going to stick with J&P.

J and P? Jeez they are the worst. They were sold as well. Try Palantine and Pickering and Roses unlimited. Much better

Thank you! Do you know if these are own root or grafted, and if grafted onto what rootstock. Looked at their website and they have a large selection

Vettin - They are grafted, I'm sure they are on Dr. Huey. I didn't order anything from Witherspoon this year, but I wish I had. Another very good US company is Regan, they have a very good selection, also on Dr. Huey. They ship very healthy plants. Those are the two companies I can think of that carry a good selection of non-patented roses. I'm usually pleased with Edmunds, but their quality wasn't quite as good this year. I received my Roses Unlimited order today, of course theirs are own root. I ordered La France, Royal Highness and Lemon Spice Hybrid Teas, they look healthy. They all had blooms on them. The La France and Lemon Spice smell wonderful, the blooms looked full size.

I am constantly amazed by folks who believe in the Rights of Private Property EXCEPT the rights of their adjacent neighbors!

bboy, surely, you should not have to put up with your neighbor's trespass. Might you, for example, be able to make a financial contribution to the fence, combined with plantings up to the 1 foot boundary? If the behavior you describe is typical of the neighbor's general attitude, they cannot have very much public support unless they are related to some locally important family. I would think you could contact the relevant local authorities and find out exactly what your rights and obligations are. Maybe show photos and videos which clearly show the 1' area and the trespass beyond that line. I wonder if erecting some sort of inexpensive marking, even survey poles, along the length of the 1 ft. line might deter the worst of the neighbor's trespass? And I believe we do all have the right to tape and photograph any activity on our own property.

Me, I would probably install a 1' wide walkway along the length of the phantom fence, combined with plantings up to the edge of the walkway and a sign proclaiming in English and Spanish that my yard is organically maintained. If you, for example, are growing roses, you do need to be able to prune and trim from every side, hence the need for the walkway.

I like Nastarana's idea of the walk. Makes it obvious what side is theirs and just what they need to maintain up too.

I am redoing an area and have a similar issue, I am going to leave that 12" and then level my side with a low stack block wall. I have a section that is wider than the 12" behind one of our fenced gardens. I can maintain my side no problem and have gates.

I do have a question for those in the know, if your neighbor has left themselves NO access other than trespassing across all of your property to maintain their fence, do you have to allow or should they purchase their own ladder? The bad neighbors will have their fence fall any old time, surprised it is still standing to be honest, and we have our own chainlink fence on our side. But the over watering towntown group has left themselves no way to access except thru our side I have lots of things planted on our side of the line, most by 2 or more feet so there is work room, just no way to reach it. That fence will probably be the first to fall because of the winds even though it is in better shape. (but only by a little bit)

And is there anything that can be done if they leave the old concrete around where their fence was before? They built one guessing on the wrong line and rebuilt a new one more on their side but I have trip hazards all over on our side of the fence but I think mostly on their side of the property line.

We had a very rough winter so I was surprise that only 1 died, Pink Promise. But I planted her very late, like October and didn't cover her. The rest (Chicago Peace, Love & Peace, Angel Face, Princess Margaret, and Port Sunlight) I covered them with leaves and they are now coming back strong.

So when a rose plant "died" from our bouts of polar vortex this winter, but is coming back with fresh new growth from the roots, is it like starting all over with a new, young rose? I mean in terms of I how big and/or strong it will get this year? Many of my roses were bands in the summer of 2011.

It is difficult to say anything without knowing the conditions you have for growing roses where you are in India. It is hard enough in the US where conditions vary so much. If you give a complete description of the growing conditions you have beginning with zone, weather and soil and how you have cared for the rose and whether or not you spray and with what then someone might have an idea.

I should have mentioned environment condition also:

At present my roses remains in sun from 11am-4pm and tempretaure is around 39-40 degrees celsius (ya i know temp remain quite high in my area during summer)
My roses are not in pots and I try to water them thrice in a week or when ever the surface of the soil appears to be dry. I also spray water on the leaves as summers are there.

I have applied only a small amount of granular fertilizer recently that contains (humic acid 39%,ascorbic acid 20%, Amino Acids 9%,Thiamine 2%,Alpha-tocopherol 1% ,basicaly a root stimulant)

One possibility is Snowbird. I have seen it as a climber (in southern Cal) but mine is a small bush. Tiny buds open into gorgeous blooms.

Easy to root, blooms like crazy when still a tiny plant. I love this rose.

where did you get your 'snowbird' Kathy?