22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
You're right on target, Ingrid. I don't think you'd have the same results in a coastal climate.
Henry, one of my husband's expressed objections to Hybrid Tea Roses was that they were, in his opinion " . . . ugly plants with bare bottoms."
In my conditions, to be honest, I'd say the same about many Hybrid Perpetuals.
Jeri
I previously pruned roses in January as usual, but with this years higher than normal heat waves, I'm wondering if the roses are dormant yet. I see a lot of growth and even flowers. Is waiting until February out of the question. I have been told in the past that sudden temperature changes can cause blind shoots. I see quite a lot of shoots that suddenly just quit growing. These hot days are confusing the plants and gardeners. Any thoughts out there?
I'm in Phoenix, AZ. I need to fill the hole with something and don't mind using some of the cleaner clay, but most was pretty dirty from construction debris. I'm going to the nursery tomorrow to by the 3 roses I want so I'll be asking them what they suggest to fill it with. I was thinking of getting some top soil and then mixing in some organic matter and clean clay.
Thanks for the responses.
Thank you for the timely reminder, I went out and gave mine all a good watering yesterday. They were definitely ready for it.
With respect to the garage temperature question, that will depend on a number of factors. Is the garage attached, or detached, does it have an attic, or insulation of any kind, etc. Mine is attached with 3 uninsulated walls, but an insulated appartment overhead. Outside temperatures have gone as low as -29 C / -20 F so far this season and the lowest tempeature indoors has been -6 C / 21 F.
If you have a detached uninsulated garage, then the ambient temperature inside will likely reach nearly the same temperature as the outside during extended cold spells. -20 F is almost certainly cold enough to kill a potted knock out rose. If you're garage is insulated the temperature swings should be less. You might try building an insulated box large enough to put you potted rose in, keep it in the garage and put a small 40 watt incadecent light bulb inside that you could turn on when the temperature is forecast to go below about -5 F.
Cheers, Rick
You could go to the Marin Art and Garden Center, which is in Ross, which is about 10 minutes away. Their web site is at: "www.magc.org".
It is on land that used to be a huge old estate. The main house burned down, but there are still a lot of heritage trees, & landscaped paths, etc. as well as a museum. The Marin Rose Society has a rose garden there which is very nice, although I do not know if anything is blooming in Jan. There is also a great antique shop, if you like that sort of thing.
Jackie
If Zepherine does well for you, you might take a look at one of its sports, either Martha or Kathleen Harrop. Or climbing Pinkie. Or Renae or its seedling, Annie Louise MacDowel. Any of these roses will be gracious on a post and have either none or very few prickles. I am not familiar with Climbing Pinkie but believe it is not a repeating rose.
Absolutely fabulous dogwood, by the way.....and cute little doglet.
Kittymoonbeam,
Thanks. Mac is deletedâ¦.. lol I chose that one because it got big as I want something that will not only go up to the top but drape back down. I did plan on adding arms to the post so the canes would be supported. I can either drill a hole and use heavy re-bar or like you say a couple of 2x4s. I have a crepe myrtle that is about 15 feet high â¦.. hmmmm Jasmina ya sayâ¦. lol Thanks.
subk3,
You got it, now all I have to do is come up with the perfect bush. Scratch perfect, I know betterâ¦..
I'll check out the videos, thanks.
roseseek,
Others agree with you. thornlessâ¦. NOT. That is the kind of advice I was looking forâ¦. honest. I'd hate to go to all the trouble of trying to train something that wasn't going to work.
campanula,
Thanks, I was wondering about climbing Pinkie. Come to think about it I think I got Madame Alfred Carriere confused with Annie Louise MacDowel. Your other selections also sound good. Thanks.
BTW, the picture is a year or two old so the dogwood (that was support to be Pink) is about twice that size. The dog is a 12 year old female Lhasa Apso that we keep her hair clipped. (they don't shed), She is either in our laps or waiting to be picked up. Not spoiled one little bitâ¦. and if you believe that, I have this bridge you may be interested in purchasing.
The water table is as high as the depth you dig down to find it. Roses should not sit in water. The roots cannot get enough oxygen. That is why raised beds are built. I have a lower corner in my yard that the water runs to. I put in a raise bed and the roses are doing great.
We live over a giant underground river called the Mahomet River Aquifer. It comes out of Canada.It is a larger river than the Mississippi! My Boyhood home used to be on it. The well was over 150 feet down. I remember my Dad had a leak in a pipe. They started pulling hose and went across the street and still was pulling hose!
I use the Houston Rose Society Rose Fertilizer. It is a concentrate, like a 29-#-#, sorry can't recall the P and K. Heavy on Nitrogen, works great here. Apply it once a month to the soil around the plant, not on the plant. They suggest watering the day before Feeding. Works great.
HRS Fert guide link: http://www.houstonrose.org/mo041207.htm
I don't mess around with granules any more, it's too much work. I liquid feed. All food has to be turned in a solution anyway
To start the year I use Miracle Gro 24 -8-16. That is at bud break.I also spray for disease then.
My next application is Monty's Joy Juice and I apply that weekly up to September 1. I use the Monty's feeder. I can feed my 470 roses in 20 minutes!
In your zone container roses shouldn't need any type of protection. IF the temps are going to go WAY below freezing, like the teens, you might want to put them in a garage for that time. Otherwise just leave them alone except for the occasional watering if there is no rain. Watering is the most important thing. Roses will die from dehydration more than from cold really.
If you want to keep the humidity up around them without rotting them get some trays (I use old cake pans) and put gravel in the bottom. Put water in the gravel but NOT up to the top of the stones and then place the cups/pots on top of the gravel. You do not want the water to touch the bottom of the pot. That will create a humid zone around them with out over watering them.
Hey Pembroke, if you have any luck with these, then you can go find specific ones and try rooting them too. Do you guys have Safeway markets in your area? Ours order from some outfit in South America and they sell named roses for $9.99 a dozen all yr, except at Valentine's and Mother's Day, then they raise them up to $19.99. Our Safeway gets them in Mon-Wed-Fri and I go check at least twice a week to see what comes in. I'm just playing and experimenting to see what I can get to root. Once I get it down, I'm going to go to the local (actual) florist shops to see if they will special order specific roses. It'll cost alot more tho. Usually $60 per dozen in the off season. It's just a fun thing to keep me going til bloom season starts up again!! But if I can get some of the ones I really am looking for, that would be cool!
All around the country this has been an odd winter, and roses are doing things they haven't done in other years. As far as leaves, if you're in zone 5, you've undoubtedly had some of the wicked cold that has been hitting the nation, and your Knockout roses are as dormant as they're going to get. Sometimes the dead leaves fall off on their own, and sometimes they need to get pushed out of the way by new leaves in the spring. Our huge oak tree does the same thing of hanging onto dead leaves well into the spring, so we have the lovely chore of raking in the spring when everything starts growing.
Either way, the leaves aren't not doing any harm where they are and they'll fall off at least by the point the rose starts growing. They're also not doing anything particularly useful for the rose, so if you wanted to neaten them up you're free to pull them off. For me, that's way too much like work and not at all needed. Just let 'em be and consider them "winter interest". Sure a lot more interesting than miles of ice and snow, eh?
Cynthia
Some of them will blow off by spring. When you prune you'll probably take off a lot more. What ever is left you should remove. Some of my roses drop all their leaves nicely for me but others hold on to them for dear life. I've found though that after I have to prune off the winter damage there usually isn't a whole lot left to pull.
I'd suggest getting several plants and growing them in different locations at the same time.
I did this with camellias--I purchased eight plants and put them in different microclimates, then I moved the survivors to the best spot in our yard. I also did a field trip to DC and the National Arboretum. I determined that they need far sunnier spots to grow when they up here in Connecticut, compared to locations further south. I also noticed this with roses--they do better in partly sunny locations the further south you go.
Erasmus,
I was hoping someone had experience with this rose in a pot. Just the right answer! Thanks.
Zack,
I will move it to a little sunnier spot and hope it likes it.
Thanks again,
andrea