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I have no info on the rose, but was going to tell you that I made decorative picket fences next to the walk-ways to hide a hand rail on. Mom can use to steady herself and it looks like a picket fence. I put the rail for the pickets on the back of the post and then put the handrail on the front of the post. When mom fussed she did not need the handrail, I said they were for her friend _________ who was unsteady on her feet :) It helps to keep mom out of that planter bed too (helps because she is determined to get exactly where she should least be to "pull a weed" Oddly she does not pull the weeds close to the walk)
Nancy,
I'm not familiar with OSO Happy Smoothie, but I've grown OSO Easy Paprika for several years. My Paprika bushes have been carefree and completely disease free without spraying here where even knockouts are bad to blackspot. Our humidity level hovers in the 90s and temps average in the mid 90s throughout the summer months, but these bushes never shut down. They provide constant color spring through fall and ask nothing in exchange. The Paprikas are thorny, but they are not marketed as thornless. I wouldnâÂÂt think OSO Happy Smoothie would be advertised as thornless if it wasnâÂÂt at least very nearly so, and I would assume Smoothie to have similar disease resistance and bloom power as the others in the OSO series. I only have personal experience with Paprika, but have seen some of the others grown locally, and they seem to be winners, too. I also grow Apricot Drift and Coral Drift. They are carefree, very disease resistant and constant bloomers, as well, but both do have thorns (Coral is very thorny; Apricot doesnâÂÂt have many thorns, but enough to prick you if not careful). The Drift roses stay much shorter in my climate than the Paprika bushes (and other OSOs that IâÂÂve seen). I prune back my Paprikas each winter to keep them at about 3 feet X 3 feet, but the Drift roses never get over 2 to 3 feet in height (and at least 3 ft wide) here without any pruning. Both the Drifts and the Paprikas will look better and give you a greater quantity of blooms with some deadheading, but both will continue to flower reasonably even if you donâÂÂt. I donâÂÂt think you could go wrong with any from either series as far as ease of care, but I'm not sure on the thornless part. HereâÂÂs a picture of Paprika this weekâ¦loaded with buds and some blooms beginning to open:
Without a picture it would be hard to say for sure but, yes, there are roses that spread called ground cover roses. More likely though is that this is one of the miniature roses they use for these "gift" roses. All roses grow in their own way and yours just likes to grow sideways instead of up. If it is healthy and blooming I wouldn't worry about it.
You can keep it in the pot if you wish but it would probably be happier in the ground. Roses are always happiest outside in the ground.
Oh! I used to live there, I'm 5 miles north now.
The Jersey Shore RS helps with a no spray garden (no climbers) in Eatontown, it is on Rt. 35 just south of the old Fort Monmouth. Also, if she is up to it, our next meeting is 5/31 @ 1:00 at Kensington Assisted Living off of Shrewsbury Ave, there will be quite a few CRs there to answer questions.
What a fun idea! If you don't like the idea of minifloras, there's always Kentucky Derby, a reasonably hardy red HT that I think Rogue Valley sells. There's also Elvis and Miss Elvis that I haven't tried that are Edwards HTs, available from Roseland. You have a lot of music related options for hardy easy care roses from Buck - some that have thrived with no BS to speak of in my zone 4 pocket include Pearlie Mae (named for Minnie Pearl), Mountain Music, and Folksinger. Allamand Ho and Country Dancer would also be good options from Buck with music/Nashville connections.
Minis and minifloras are pretty easy to winter protect if you want to go that route - Blue Suede Shoes is one I noted, and there are probably other options from other Elvis songs. "Falling in Love" (with you) is one that comes to mind that is pretty hardy for me.
Have fun and let us know what you decide!
Cynthia
Thanks for the ideas. I might take my chances on Kentucky Derby, it is out of my zone, but will definitely get Zepharine Drouhin (get it a "Bourbon" rose). I am also looking at mountain music, duet, tootsie (the name of a bar in Nashville we went to) or Dolly's forever rose. In my search, I came up with some for past trips: Golden Buddha for the time I spent in India, Seattle Sunrise where my son now lives, and Belle Epoque which is the name of the hotel we stayed in Venice last year.
Angel Face is wonderful here in SoCal but it was not vigorous or hardy enough for Z6b CT. Almost everything would get denuded by BS back in CT so the answer for me was to spray at least every other week with BannerMaxx. Iceberg also gets BS but it is amazingly vigorous and way hardy enough for your zone. Its' biggest advantage here in SoCal is that it stands up to heat and dry conditions so you see it everywhere here. I think it must be the state flower of California.
Sometimes the Green Velvet boxwood that I use are available at Home Depot for $5+ dollars a gallon. My edging has perennials (in the picture becky daisies and geranium) between the boxwood and the rose. We also get 50+ inches of rain a year so that keeps everyone happy and in their place too!
eastTXmeg, the trellis are made from a piece of found scrap metal that I had a metal guy put side rails on--so not available anywhere...
Thanks Diane! We have plenty of water now - it has been raining for 3 days. Now we need some sun and warmer temps. It was supposed to be in the lower 70's today, never got past 55....I'll just wait until it blooms to start fertilizing. I have some water soluable ferts - do you think that would be ok to use - maybe 1/2 strength?
Lori
The Bayer pellets or the drench don't really do a good job on blackspot. At least not here in Georgia :) You are better off using separate products. Bayer does make a fungicide spray that works very well on black spot. You can find it in Lowes. Normally you only need to spray every 2-3 weeks, but since you already have some blackspot, you may want to do it weekly until you don't see any new spots.
Combination products are not a good idea. You wind up putting down chemicals you don't need an they aren't effective for disease. I've attached a link to what you should buy. Bayer has so many products and the bottles look similar. Make sure you get the one that just says 'Disease Control. You can use it on the roses now. Just follow the directions about avoiding skin contact.
Here is a link that might be useful: Bayer Disease Control
It's all up to how much you personally want to use fungicide. I live in Black spot hell, I've tried and just cannot possibly go through the season without using fungicide. Daconil didn't work for me, and now I only use Bayer Advanced Garden Disease Control. The nice part about Bayer is it will stop Blackspot once it has started. This way I don't have to spray until I absolutely need to. Last week I saw some Blackspot on two roses so I sprayed those two, but have not done my others that are doing fine. I just watch them closely and start them on a spray program when I see it has started. Bayer has addittional formulas that combine with fertilizer, or insecticide. I prefer to get the one soley for disease as I don't want to kill my good bugs, and I can fertilize with better fertilizer cheaper. So you may want to begin a spray for your roses that are showing blackspot now and wait on your others. Some roses are more likely to get it than others.
If you want a virused 'Lemon Spice' you can have mine. Email me if you want it.
That's very kind of you.
Let me research whether I can de-virus it, and get back to you.
Though I suppose if it were simple, you'd have done it already?
No matter, I enjoy learning, and actually my friend has a tree rose that has a virus and I've been meaning to look into it. I think it is the mosaic virus (if that's a virus name).