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I also found this interesting. It was a response on how to rejuvenate old rose plants:
â¢Posted by cannabisgrower 5a (My Page) on Mon, Jul 21, 08 at 19:02
I wouldn't move it. What I would do in your case, is BEND very slowly some of the more flexible canes of the blanc double, over a period of a few weeks, and see if you can actually get part of a cane buried, especially an upper part that may have some active growth. If you make a wound in this actively growing part of the cane, like a diagonal cut in the region of a bud, and keep this cracked open, with gently bending pressure with your fingers, and if it is possible to bury this cracked part of the cane 3-4 inches below the soil line, it will sprout roots there. Start the cut closer to the root, and cut upwards in a shallow diagonal, about a third of the way through the cane - the best knife for this is a heavy duty utility knife like an Olfa H1. This is called layering, as opposed to "air layering" which is an adjacent thread in this propagation forum. Or if you're up to the more complicated "air layering" then go for it, as well. Next season, you will find strong new growth coming from the base, where you cracked the stem, and the basal buds will also send up nice canes. By using this method, you do not risk losing the bush due to transplant shock, you have increased the size of your stock, and you now have a young bush that you can devote your training methods. The time to cut out older branches would be in the spring, during spring pruning time, before the bush starts active growth. If you severely prune a bush during active growth, the result is a severe check on growth, which you do not want. Sativa.
Here is a link that might be useful: How to Rejuvenate old rose plants?
I have two of these plants. Both took this winter rather hard and got pruned near to the ground. Last year was hard on them because we got a snowstorm and a freeze here in May. I don't know if you got clobbered in Oklahoma or not with a late freeze, but it didn't do anything any good here.
Fragrant Plum seems to do better in cooler weather, and I can see that because it has a variety called "Blue Nile" in its parentage, that may be why it doesn't care for the heat so much. Fragrant Plum is a pretty rose, but it doesn't always bloom a lot.
I can only make comments generally about standards--the first year or two the trunk is fairly vulnerable to sunburn until it builds up more bark--so if you have sunlight beating down, shade the trunk if you can the first couple of years.
The other thing, the standard always needs support--even when the trunk appears to have grown quite sturdy--a strong wind can still snap it off. Use a metal support rather than a wooden one--the wood supports tend to rot out long before you are ready to give up the standard, and they can be difficult to replace.
I have 'Brass Band' as a shrub. Great rose--somewhat slow to get going, but once established, a very striking plant.
Hope that is somewhat useful.
Here are some that I grow:
R. alabukensis
R. cantabrigiensis
R. foetida 'Persiana'
R. hugonis
R. primula
R. xanthina
And some species crosses:
Harison's Yellow
William's Double Yellow
You can see pictures of them, and others, on HelpMeFind.
Melissa
Here is a link that might be useful: William's Double Yellow
Ive never asked a question seil or someone couldnt answer, thats why i come here to learn. I did keep trimming further and further but at a point i decided it was way more than i wanted and just stopped. Im no good with feeling positive about a cane being old or dead. The pith is white but the cambium is tan, not green.. or where there is green under the bark, it looks very dry. So i stopped cutting. I hope im not stuck with only those 4 new gangly canes from last summer...id never be able to train it back to its former glory. Fingers crossed in upstate :) thanks to all.
yes charleney, ive had great luck with this standard. I bundle the graft but have never dug it out. I wrap everything above dr huey.. and hes as green as can be right now.lol. this winter was just brutally cold up here in the mountains. Ill hope for the best . Even though its just a knockout , i really do love it. Say a little prayer for her !
@dublinbay thank you for your help
Judith, thanks as well and you're right it really is trying to grow. I will stop by Walmart or Lowe's tonight to pick up some stuff to spray it with. I'll also see if I can find someone with some type of manure I can take off they're hands.
At what point do people decide to pull up a rose and discard? This is the last thing I want to do only because I remember how beautiful it was it's very first year when it bloomed. :( I'm really hoping that some babying with help it along.
Thank you guys!
Elce
It's a young rose and not yet fully mature. And not all roses grow and mature at the same rate. If it's a different variety from your other rose it may never grow or look the same. Not all roses have dark green leaves. Just like kids, they all develop differently.
It has some black spot but that may be due to it's immaturity and the fact that it's still at ground level where there are plenty of spores to infect the leaves. If you liked the rose last year I'd give it more time before I'd ditch it.
love it!
Toolbelt, your garden is gorgeous!