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I can only make comments generally about standards--the first year or two the trunk is fairly vulnerable to sunburn until it builds up more bark--so if you have sunlight beating down, shade the trunk if you can the first couple of years.
The other thing, the standard always needs support--even when the trunk appears to have grown quite sturdy--a strong wind can still snap it off. Use a metal support rather than a wooden one--the wood supports tend to rot out long before you are ready to give up the standard, and they can be difficult to replace.
I have 'Brass Band' as a shrub. Great rose--somewhat slow to get going, but once established, a very striking plant.
Hope that is somewhat useful.




Here are some that I grow:
R. alabukensis
R. cantabrigiensis
R. foetida 'Persiana'
R. hugonis
R. primula
R. xanthina
And some species crosses:
Harison's Yellow
William's Double Yellow
You can see pictures of them, and others, on HelpMeFind.
Melissa
Here is a link that might be useful: William's Double Yellow

Ive never asked a question seil or someone couldnt answer, thats why i come here to learn. I did keep trimming further and further but at a point i decided it was way more than i wanted and just stopped. Im no good with feeling positive about a cane being old or dead. The pith is white but the cambium is tan, not green.. or where there is green under the bark, it looks very dry. So i stopped cutting. I hope im not stuck with only those 4 new gangly canes from last summer...id never be able to train it back to its former glory. Fingers crossed in upstate :) thanks to all.


yes charleney, ive had great luck with this standard. I bundle the graft but have never dug it out. I wrap everything above dr huey.. and hes as green as can be right now.lol. this winter was just brutally cold up here in the mountains. Ill hope for the best . Even though its just a knockout , i really do love it. Say a little prayer for her !


@dublinbay thank you for your help
Judith, thanks as well and you're right it really is trying to grow. I will stop by Walmart or Lowe's tonight to pick up some stuff to spray it with. I'll also see if I can find someone with some type of manure I can take off they're hands.
At what point do people decide to pull up a rose and discard? This is the last thing I want to do only because I remember how beautiful it was it's very first year when it bloomed. :( I'm really hoping that some babying with help it along.
Thank you guys!
Elce

It's a young rose and not yet fully mature. And not all roses grow and mature at the same rate. If it's a different variety from your other rose it may never grow or look the same. Not all roses have dark green leaves. Just like kids, they all develop differently.
It has some black spot but that may be due to it's immaturity and the fact that it's still at ground level where there are plenty of spores to infect the leaves. If you liked the rose last year I'd give it more time before I'd ditch it.


I find bagged alfalfa at my local nursery, but it's a bit expensive for a larger number of roses. Finally purchased a 50 lb bag of pellets at a feed store (horse food). It's way too much, but was only $11. You have to be careful there is nothing else but alfalfa in the pellets. They don't break down as fast as the bagged stuff from the nursery which is like a powder almost.

Check to make sure that the alfalfa pellets do not contain salt or other additives that may cause problems, many pellets do contain additives when they are labeled for horse feed. I buy plain alfalfa meal, a powder with no additives, at a farm supply feed mill for about $11 per 50# bag.






I have two of these plants. Both took this winter rather hard and got pruned near to the ground. Last year was hard on them because we got a snowstorm and a freeze here in May. I don't know if you got clobbered in Oklahoma or not with a late freeze, but it didn't do anything any good here.
Fragrant Plum seems to do better in cooler weather, and I can see that because it has a variety called "Blue Nile" in its parentage, that may be why it doesn't care for the heat so much. Fragrant Plum is a pretty rose, but it doesn't always bloom a lot.
I have 2 and the are both on life support, although they are probably dead. Ill give them a few more weeks before I pull the plug on them and plant something more "polar vortex" hardy. It gets tall!