22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
Thanks for the info, as well as the terrific pictures. I can find Cancan around but I'll just have to be wistful about Camille and Augusta for the time being. So glad you made a mistake to post here - even if we can't get those roses they're lovely to look at. Your combination of Cancan and Stormy Weather sounds fantastic, and we'll look forward to seeing it.
Cynthia
I miss my Double Delight. It's an easy rose to replace, but I just don't have the room, and it was prone to blackspot here. I may try it again someday.
Also, French Lace. It was common locally quite a few years back, but not so common now. I bought another one two years ago. It was supposed to be own-root, but it was mismarked. I got a real dog instead...
Man oh man, my last season Love Song. Can you believe this is what it looked like for ONE season that I had it, & had 3-4 green (hopeful) thick stems the start of this season that turned black. The only lavender rose I ever had (forget the name) lived about 3-4 seasons. The garden guy told me they are more delicate.
Yep, I'll definitely back up Diane and sing the praises of Colette. She and Nahema share prime fence space and even in part shade conditions, they are cane hardy, prolific bloomers, and drop dead gorgeous. My Colette is just about to start blooming and I'll see if I can get a picture this weekend. Sympathies on the 90's - we're only just crawling our way out of the 60's and the wettest May we've ever had (and the 6th wettest month ever in recorded history). 80's are expected next week, and all those lovely rose buds should be popping soon.
Thanks for the cautionary tale about New Dawn. My own-root ND under an oak tree is healthy but still tiny after three years. The true test will come with my second and grafted New Dawn that I planted this year. No, I didn't choose that much bloodletting - it was a mistake sent from Brecks that they didn't want returned, so I threw it in a back corner where it can duke things out with Darlow's Enigma and a bunch of oakleaf hydrangeas. I only venture back there to do some tip pruning every year or so, but I'll remember the goatskin body suit (smile) when I do.
Cynthia
Thanks everyone. Many forum members have good things to say about Darlow's Enigma and moschata but these roses are unfortunately not available in Western Australia. I wish I can smell them... maybe when I visit the US next time I can go to a good rose nursery and check out the fragrance myself.
blackspot is highly dependent on local conditions and weather. Hot and dry, you probably will not get blackspot. Cool and wet, you will. BS needs about 8 hours of wet leaves to come alive. So unless you are willing to go out on a rainy day and dry off all your leaves, you cannot prevent them from being wet and getting blackspot.
Here in the SE, almost all roses get blackspot, and I'm afraid that Mr. Lincoln does not display any resistance. It may do better in your zone, but don't be surprised if it does get some blackspot.
Mr. Lincoln was one of the first roses I grew. It came up, flowered with great looking blooms. Two days later all of the petals fell of the blooms. The bush did not have one single rose left with petals. I shovel pruned it but did not get all of the root stock. Not that I didn't try as I dug down at least 2 1/2 feet following a root. I said to myself, if it can come up from down that far it deserves to live...... it came up!!! So I now have Dr. Huey growing. Years later (here on the Gardenweb) I found out his name but at the time it was just another rose. I will never get rid of him as I will not break my promise....
Has anyone else experienced something like this with Mr. Lincoln????
The nursery pots here have 4 to 6 square holes, 1/2 inch.
I know some of the roses could use a repot/fresh soil conditioner but I've been putting off trying to do that for the 15/20 gallon. That's gonna be a ton of scratches, dirt and sweat in 80 degree weather.
My pot only had one hole in the center, which was clearly insufficient. I drilled 8 on the circumference and widened the one in the center. I used a Black & Decker that I bought for that purpose, and it seemed to work fine. I used the largest drill bit for the holes (half inch). I would also suggest lining the bottom with beach pebble type rocks. As for the plate, if it has a considerably larger diameter than the pot it's ok to use it, but if it's a snug fit then don't. Good luck.
The most common reason for smaller roses is insufficient light--which may be a factor considering that there are plants around it. I've routinely grown stunted plants back to full size--but I typically hide them. For instance, when I created the front rose bed, I made two rows separated by grass. The roses in front were mature plants. This year I moved the grass and stuck in smaller roses between the two older rows! I used to put smaller roses in the back yard--but now the front yard gets more light--now that two maple trees are gone.
Sometimes when transplanting a rose it can shock the roots for several seasons making for a smaller rose bush. It looks pretty healthy in the photo now putting on new growth. I would feed it regularly and perhaps prune it a little less than the other this next spring. I think it will eventually catch up.
About a decade ago, I went to a ParkWayside sale the last weekend in June. They had bareroot roses on sale for $1 each so I did what anyone would do, I bought two each of every rose I didn't have. Over 110 roses. Yep, not 11, 110.
They came home and soaked in the tub, and three wash tubs as I inventoried and figured out what I had.
Then I started planting, in the only place I had, a sunny, hot humid hillside facing south.
They should have had better ammendments, but there were so many.
I watered them. Every three days for the rest of the summer. All broke dormany. All survived. Most thrived, including my hedge of twenty Graham Stuart Thomases.
It was worth the effort.
Wow, I wish for $1 a piece. I would have bought maybe 50 too :).
I have a 55 gallon barrel, so if they don't cancel my order, I'll soak them in that and some superthrive. This would be my second batch of bareroot roses, so hopefully I will do better with these. The first batch of 4, only two might do ok, one is down to it's last cane but with leaves, and the other one I should really toss since it's black.
Your welcome Nippstress, although I think some folks want to kill me for highlighting yet another can't miss sale, lol.
It's a good deed kublakan. :-)