22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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kublakan

Your welcome Nippstress, although I think some folks want to kill me for highlighting yet another can't miss sale, lol.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2015 at 4:54AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

It's a good deed kublakan. :-)

    Bookmark     May 31, 2015 at 7:14AM
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smarge117

I think the problem might be where I trimmed it back earlier this year. I've got long shoots (about 8-15") with hardly any leaves before you get to the blooms. Hmmmmm.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 8:38AM
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jkellydallas(8a)

If it were a climber, I think it would be very obvious by now. I thought I bought an Iceberg, but it turned out to be a climber by the Fall having planted it bare root in January. It was VERY clear that it was a climber, and it still is.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2015 at 12:22AM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Thanks for the info, as well as the terrific pictures. I can find Cancan around but I'll just have to be wistful about Camille and Augusta for the time being. So glad you made a mistake to post here - even if we can't get those roses they're lovely to look at. Your combination of Cancan and Stormy Weather sounds fantastic, and we'll look forward to seeing it.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 10:23PM
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cjrosaphile(z8 Pacific NW)

I thought that you were talking about "Yesterday" rose's blooms. Ha! It is very much like Ballerina only a tad darker by the way.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2015 at 12:11AM
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cadiarose(zone 7a, NJ)

I miss my Double Delight. It's an easy rose to replace, but I just don't have the room, and it was prone to blackspot here. I may try it again someday.

Also, French Lace. It was common locally quite a few years back, but not so common now. I bought another one two years ago. It was supposed to be own-root, but it was mismarked. I got a real dog instead...

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 6:56AM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Man oh man, my last season Love Song. Can you believe this is what it looked like for ONE season that I had it, & had 3-4 green (hopeful) thick stems the start of this season that turned black. The only lavender rose I ever had (forget the name) lived about 3-4 seasons. The garden guy told me they are more delicate.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 7:26PM
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susan4952(5)

Munstead wood

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susan4952(5)

Teasing Georgia

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 7:18PM
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kmack17(6 NJ)

Yeah, first rose bush. I'd prefer not to use an insecticide if I can avoid it, so I'll try hunting them down by hand. Thanks for your help.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 6:45PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

They tend to hide under the leaves in the hot weather. They are tiny about the size of an inch worm.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 2:25PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Yep, I'll definitely back up Diane and sing the praises of Colette. She and Nahema share prime fence space and even in part shade conditions, they are cane hardy, prolific bloomers, and drop dead gorgeous. My Colette is just about to start blooming and I'll see if I can get a picture this weekend. Sympathies on the 90's - we're only just crawling our way out of the 60's and the wettest May we've ever had (and the 6th wettest month ever in recorded history). 80's are expected next week, and all those lovely rose buds should be popping soon.

Thanks for the cautionary tale about New Dawn. My own-root ND under an oak tree is healthy but still tiny after three years. The true test will come with my second and grafted New Dawn that I planted this year. No, I didn't choose that much bloodletting - it was a mistake sent from Brecks that they didn't want returned, so I threw it in a back corner where it can duke things out with Darlow's Enigma and a bunch of oakleaf hydrangeas. I only venture back there to do some tip pruning every year or so, but I'll remember the goatskin body suit (smile) when I do.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 1:03PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Colette is not available here but Nahema is indeed gorgeous and her scent is strong and lovely. Also nearly thornless!

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 7:18AM
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zack_lau z6 CT

I was just thinking about a white azalea I that mildewed the first year--its fine now, but some fungicide really helped it out while it was getting settled in as a new plant. Same with Good N Plenty--BS when I first planted--but seems fine now.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 5:44AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

All the veggie farmers use chemcials too. :-) Riding to Canada! Have a great day! :-)

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 7:04AM
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Campanula UK Z8

Splendens aka the Myrrh scented rose - by a country mile the muskiest and most delicious rose...but I also like the linseedy fedschenkoana and foetidas.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 4:59AM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Thanks everyone. Many forum members have good things to say about Darlow's Enigma and moschata but these roses are unfortunately not available in Western Australia. I wish I can smell them... maybe when I visit the US next time I can go to a good rose nursery and check out the fragrance myself.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 7:01AM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

blackspot is highly dependent on local conditions and weather. Hot and dry, you probably will not get blackspot. Cool and wet, you will. BS needs about 8 hours of wet leaves to come alive. So unless you are willing to go out on a rainy day and dry off all your leaves, you cannot prevent them from being wet and getting blackspot.

Here in the SE, almost all roses get blackspot, and I'm afraid that Mr. Lincoln does not display any resistance. It may do better in your zone, but don't be surprised if it does get some blackspot.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 3:46AM
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toolbelt68(7)

Mr. Lincoln was one of the first roses I grew. It came up, flowered with great looking blooms. Two days later all of the petals fell of the blooms. The bush did not have one single rose left with petals. I shovel pruned it but did not get all of the root stock. Not that I didn't try as I dug down at least 2 1/2 feet following a root. I said to myself, if it can come up from down that far it deserves to live...... it came up!!! So I now have Dr. Huey growing. Years later (here on the Gardenweb) I found out his name but at the time it was just another rose. I will never get rid of him as I will not break my promise....

Has anyone else experienced something like this with Mr. Lincoln????

    Bookmark     May 30, 2015 at 6:13AM
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msdorkgirl(11)

The nursery pots here have 4 to 6 square holes, 1/2 inch.

I know some of the roses could use a repot/fresh soil conditioner but I've been putting off trying to do that for the 15/20 gallon. That's gonna be a ton of scratches, dirt and sweat in 80 degree weather.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 7:53PM
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ptsourkas

My pot only had one hole in the center, which was clearly insufficient. I drilled 8 on the circumference and widened the one in the center. I used a Black & Decker that I bought for that purpose, and it seemed to work fine. I used the largest drill bit for the holes (half inch). I would also suggest lining the bottom with beach pebble type rocks. As for the plate, if it has a considerably larger diameter than the pot it's ok to use it, but if it's a snug fit then don't. Good luck.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 10:38PM
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zack_lau z6 CT

The most common reason for smaller roses is insufficient light--which may be a factor considering that there are plants around it. I've routinely grown stunted plants back to full size--but I typically hide them. For instance, when I created the front rose bed, I made two rows separated by grass. The roses in front were mature plants. This year I moved the grass and stuck in smaller roses between the two older rows! I used to put smaller roses in the back yard--but now the front yard gets more light--now that two maple trees are gone.

    Bookmark     May 26, 2015 at 6:06PM
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chris2486

Sometimes when transplanting a rose it can shock the roots for several seasons making for a smaller rose bush. It looks pretty healthy in the photo now putting on new growth. I would feed it regularly and perhaps prune it a little less than the other this next spring. I think it will eventually catch up.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 8:51PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks for mentioning that Zack, I have to move mine to a warmer spot.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 7:40PM
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openmoon

oh well, looks like.. I was hoping may be I am just not patient enough...

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 7:42PM
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stillanntn6b

About a decade ago, I went to a ParkWayside sale the last weekend in June. They had bareroot roses on sale for $1 each so I did what anyone would do, I bought two each of every rose I didn't have. Over 110 roses. Yep, not 11, 110.

They came home and soaked in the tub, and three wash tubs as I inventoried and figured out what I had.

Then I started planting, in the only place I had, a sunny, hot humid hillside facing south.

They should have had better ammendments, but there were so many.

I watered them. Every three days for the rest of the summer. All broke dormany. All survived. Most thrived, including my hedge of twenty Graham Stuart Thomases.

It was worth the effort.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 6:27PM Thanked by msdorkgirl
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msdorkgirl(11)

Wow, I wish for $1 a piece. I would have bought maybe 50 too :).

I have a 55 gallon barrel, so if they don't cancel my order, I'll soak them in that and some superthrive. This would be my second batch of bareroot roses, so hopefully I will do better with these. The first batch of 4, only two might do ok, one is down to it's last cane but with leaves, and the other one I should really toss since it's black.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 6:32PM
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mori1(5b/6a)

Moondance is fine and will bloom in the next week or two. Its Oregold but its good to know not to waste my money on another one.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 4:51PM
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dan_keil_cr Keil(Illinois z5)

I used to have Oregold. Gold medal would be a good choice

    Bookmark     May 29, 2015 at 6:05PM
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