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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Certainly not close to you but I have several vigorosa's Even up here some can spread more than three feet. They stay at 3' in height. So far Innocencia is the smallest. I do have one Kordes thats a bitty rose. Bought as a balconia it's Little Chap aka (Knirps). It's also an ADR rose and about 18"x 18". I've had it for around 8 years. It blooms non stop all year. Blooms are tiny and deep crimson fading slightly to a pink shade. I find that my Kordes roses get as large here as they do in the south. In some cases perhaps larger.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 7:28AM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

They tend to get wide if you don't prune. The year I took those pictures, I didn't get to prune them before they budded out and then I couldn't bear to . They don't get tall, but they can put out long arching canes. If you prune them once a year, they will stay about 3x3

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 4:18PM
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seil zone 6b MI

The right rose for the right spot is always the best but I know how you feel. I love my HTs and I enjoy exhibiting so I'll continue to grow them. You shouldn't despair yet on them. If you've sunk the grafts below ground even if you have to cut off black sticks to the soil they should still grow back for you. I had to take all my HTs back to nubs last spring and they grew back and bloomed beautifully in time for my June show!

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 3:04PM
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rosecanadian

Or if you have an insulated garage, trundle them via a dolly in and out of the garage for winter and summer. As long as the pots are big enough it works wonderfully. I'm in zone 3 and I have 50 HTs in the garage right now. They ALL survive. :)

Carol

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 3:36PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

No picture here and the only thing I could find is, a new registration from Weeks, hybridizer Tom Carruth, Shrub/GF yellow blend. Registered 11-30-14

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 3:07PM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

I'll have to go back to the nursery for more information. The person I spoke with wasn't real knowledgable about the individual roses. Just knew roses in "this bunch" are good for "this and here" but couldn't give anything else about them. I'll have to go back to the nursery when one of CRosarians are there.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 3:12PM
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jacqueline9CA

No. Actually, according to HMF, Betty Cuthbert is a shrub with "arching habit", which probably does mean it has rambler genes in it. I am not surprised that alyong found it described as a "rambling/shrub". But, It is modern and thus repeat blooming.

Traditionally the term rambler has been used for once blooming roses which tend to have a delicate look, but climb high. I have attached a picture of my vielchenblau - it is a rambler. "Large Flowered Climbers" is a designation given to more robust roses which climb - many of them are climbing sports of HTs. Of course, if just the term "climber" is used, it could mean any rose which climbs.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 2:11PM
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alyong

Thank you everyone for the comments & really good advice! It was a lightbulb moment for me! My rambling rose :) That was a cool trick w the photo, sellzone! And Jacqueline your roses are beautiful! Thanks again!

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KarenPA_6b

I soaked my bareroot roses overnight in a clean 32 gallon trash container in declorinated water or rainwater if I have it and plant them the next day or the day after if I ran out of time. The roses seemed to be happy even those I bought late in the season.

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 10:59AM
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d_boll

I just ordered 12 Julia Child tree roses and was wondering about how to soak them. Should I stay below the graft on the standard or does it matter.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 1:57PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

this is a pretty decent article from colorado state on horticultural oil:
CO state article on horticultural oil

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 2:57AM
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Kristin(8)

Thanks, looks like the mineral oil used may be ultrafiltered and have things like dewaxing done, so it might be different from cosmetic grade mineral oil.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2015 at 9:38AM
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steve_gw

Everyone in my area (zone 5) that grew it, lost it over last year's cold winter, so its not very winter hardy (no worries for Hawaii :). Don't believe it is very prolific in the bloom department. Pruning a little on the low side may encourage more basal canes and blooms... Sure has a lovely fragrance, one thing going for it!

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 5:44PM
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jacqueline9CA

The old hybrid musk Pax grows in my garden in partial shade very well. It is an elegant rose. If you look at it on Help Me Find/roses, there are lots of pictures. Blooms here all Spring and Summer.

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 4:08PM
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rosecanadian

Very pretty, especially against the white fence!!!

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 3:43PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

There was a house in the SF Valley that had a 3-Sided hedge of Simplicity. The Good Lord knows how many plants there were, but they were all planted 6-8 inches apart ... which almost no one ever did, but that's how it worked best. That hedge was a traffic stopper. I was heartbroken when both house and hedge were bulldozed to make way for a very mundane apartment building.

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 3:49PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

I almost bought another Blue Girl today. Last year I sp'd my 2 BG's, but I do like the bloom.

    Bookmark   April 24, 2014 at 8:34PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

OK, all you people who are still having troubles with Blue Girl, end your misery and get Love Song. I'm sure you've read its praises in this forum. Blue Bayou may be exquisite, but is has its problems. I haven't found any problems with Love Song. Diane

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 3:45PM
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bethnorcal9

I've had mine for quite awhile. She's lovely when she blooms, which is not very often. Not at all purple. Bright hot pink. I would've posted a pic from last yr, but I see I have none. Guess she didn't do much for me last yr.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 7:34PM
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Mendocino Rose

I planted Rina Hugo in a tough spot(too shady and not a lot of water) years ago. I'm amazed at how well it does. Not a bad rebloom here either. Yes, not purple, but I like that magenta color.

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 3:07PM
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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

Strawberry Hill blooms are among my favorites -- the color, the form, the scent -- all make my heart melt. The shrub is a little gangly, so I plan to espallier it to a trellis.

This thread has a picture of Strawberry Hill blooms from Adamharbeck:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1685546/strawberry-hill-or-heritage?n=14

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    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 2:19AM
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rosecanadian

the color, the form, the scent - all make your heart melt. That's what I wanted to hear!!! Saw the picture you linked - beautiful. Thank you so much for helping me to decide to get this rose.

Wow!!

Carol

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 10:28AM
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bethnorcal9

Nice pic! My favorite oddball.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 7:29PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Such a beautiful photo.

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 7:37AM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

The beds they will eventually be in are about four foot wide with a sidewalk down one side. I could plant them toward the back of the bed but don't want them to hang over the sidewalk. They will be in pots until fall when we have the beds ready to plant. I like the smaller blooms which is why I asked about minifloras. They will have sun from sunup until 11:30ish.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 12:41PM
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jacqueline9CA

Here are some I grow in partial sun - If you look these up on Help Me Find/roses, it will give you some ideas: Little White Pet, Lauren, any of the Kosters (start with Margo Koster, and HMF will lead you to the others), Pink Pet.

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 3, 2015 at 6:15AM
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seil zone 6b MI

The shape makes no difference. The size does. As long as it's a big enough container for the size of the rose it will be fine.

    Bookmark   Thanked by sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)    March 2, 2015 at 8:14PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

Thanks. It is a 20 gallon and I am sure it won't be big enough long term but should be okay for awhile until I can get some more flower beds put in. We are going to rent a tiller later this spring and get some more beds put in as soon as I can figure out where they will need to go. We have 4 acres but a good deal of it is shaded by giant old oaks and pines.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2015 at 8:43PM
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