22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
Oh Ingrid! How sad that Earth Song is not happy for you or China Doll. I looked at the wonderful photo Kim posted of Earth Song, bet that photo could sell a lot of plants! what heart break when you see that photo and then look at your plant.
I love my Weeping China Doll Standard. Mine is full of new shiny growth.
Interest note: when we went to the Otto n Sons rose days, the weeks rep was speaking about Bolero when I took a seat. (we had not realized there were speakers) He spoke very highly of Bolero BUT one thing he noted more than once was how superior Bolero was to Iceberg as it did not have any pink shading. A touch of creamy yellow was supposed to be the only not white color.
My weeping china doll tree rose is a prolific bloomer. I love it and would recommend it for my climate. My regular China Doll was a good bloomer but I moved it and it has not done anything since.
Bolero is very tempting and I don't have much room either but I might have to make room for it. Glad to hear about it; I have not paid much attention to the Romanticas (which Bolero is, I believe).
I have had a Sun Sprite Rose for several years and have up rooted it and replanted it 3 times. It is a robust and generally trouble free rose. I never had any problems with it. I love the bright yellow blooms and its strong licorice aroma. Mine blooms when it wants to, usually three times throughout the spring and summer. Here is a pic of mine.
My 2 bits:
I've never grown Sunsprite because of reports of health issues.
In another thread, I confessed that "I am quite keen on Kordes," but I should have said then and I should always emphasize that I'm referring to 21st century Kordes roses - particularly 2004 onward. EVERYTHING I've read on these very modern Kordes roses says health is NOT an issue. Criticisms presented are usually a matter of personal preference for certain characteristics. Sunsprite is from 1973 and definitely isn't in the same category.
I wish I could make a specific suggestion, but I don't really grow yellow roses. I have Molineux and at its best Molineux is a delicious changeable blend of pink, apricot, and yellow - a trait shared by some of the most famous Austins - truly beautiful. Molineux was only pure yellow for me in the heat of summer.
Molineux was lovely here, no spray, for about a year and a half - then boom; it completely defoliates annually now. Molineux certainly doesn't get my endorsement for a no spray environment either.
As others have already mentioned, and I agree: if you want a reliably healthy yellow, please look to the more modern yellows.
You might get a great deal of information from my favorite rose book:
"TEA ROSES: Old Roses For Warm Gardens."
See:
http://www.amazon.com/Tea-Roses-Old-Warm-Gardens/dp/187705867X
This was THE book that those of us who garden in warm climates hoped for, for years.
You might also like to visit the web sites of the Heritage Roses Group and the Gold Coast Heritage Roses Group to read articles, and to read back issues of Newsletters.
http://www.theheritagerosesgroup.org/
and
http://www.goldcoastrose.org/
You can ask questions through either website. And by all means, visit the Antique Roses forum here.
Jeri
Here is a link that might be useful: TEA ROSE BOOK
Diane, that is one vigorous rose! What a lot of rebloom you had with it and especially for a first year. Very pretty photo.
Lainey, I'm so glad you told me that, because I've never tried that and I wouldn't have thought that you could see new foliage that quickly. I have a sprayer I use fish/seaweed emulsion with too. I'm going to have to try that. Thanks.
Carol,
I most certainly wouldn't be building the room if it wasn't for already having the materials to do so. The most expensive thing I had to purchase was a specialty thermostat.
What size are the pots you get from Costco?
Beth,
Those are some stunning roses that I am adding to my wish list.
SCG
Beth - James Biddle!!! GASP - your pictures are wonderful!!!! Oh, I'm glad I ordered it. And Lucille Ball has potential - that's great to know - I don't know much about it except that Digger Dave (once upon a time here) loved that rose. Hmmmm Anna Pavlova - so-so rose. Well, I'll give it a whirl and see who she grows. No, it's supposed to be Jessica with a "c."
SCG - Hubby says about 22" X 17" (WxH) Glad that I helped add to your addiction :)
re Boscobel. I never spray new releases (until I know how they perform), just because I'd rather not spray if I don't have to and it has remained clean. I don't think I'd call the flowers small, they're smaller than Jubilee Celibration say but bigger than Queen of Sweden. It is an interesting rose colour wise, we had a warm summer this year and it was more orange, I'm expecting it to be slightly more pink in cooler weather. I can see it becoming one of those roses grown by most people who grow austins, if that makes sense, another munstead wood.
Thank you, caldonbeck, for the additional info. on Boscobel.
I'm out of space for new roses, but just this morning thought of another open spot that could hold a smaller Austin--like Boscobel--just maybe. I'll have to mediate on this a bit, but yes, I'm responding to it like I did to Munstead Wood (which I'm mad about!).
The main thing I'm wondering about now is the orange shades in hot weather. Got lots of hot summer weather here and I'm not usually partial to orange.
Must think some more about this--but anyone who wants to add more info or pics, please do in the meantime.
Kate
The link below is very complete:
http://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/eyelid-cancer
Mine is a Basal cell carcinoma type.
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
I don't have the name but believe it is probably a hybrid tea rose. It has flowered since spring. When one bloom was starting to go, I cut it off and in no time there was another one came from new growth where I had cut it off. Very beautiful. I don't have a pic.
thanks. I''m glad I had not already pruned it.
Dispersul is a locally manufactured chelated sulfur product. I add it with the bone meal (phosphorus) and DPW (dried poultry waste) because each product benefits from the others in our alkaline clay soil. Our soils can range from pH 7.0 and up. If you live in an area with a lower pH average and/or your garden has been amended with humus for quite a while, you can probably get by without additional soil sulfur. A soil test, even one of the simple pH kits sold at big box stores, can usually give a fairly accurate pH of acidic to alkaline. Knowing the basic composition of your local soil can eliminate the need to guess and waste time/money. Any amendment/chemical can throw off a well-balanced growing environment and you don't want to make your gardens toxic. I can't advise you on your local soil but the Master Gardeners, rose societies and agriculture universities in your area can give you a very informative overview...Google is your friend :).
A reminder that bone meal (phosphorus) applied as a top-dressing is pretty much useless since it stays where you put it and even when put into the soil should be applied as a 'clump', not mixed with other amendments or soil. Many soils do not benefit from additional phosphorus. We also add Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate) and chelated iron... again amendments you may not need.
I successfully overwinter :
Diana, POW, Sweetness, Easter. Basket, burgundy iceberg, majesty, ebb tide
Liv tyler, white licorice, a few I cannot remember their names..lol. These are all tree roses.
Regulars are Cherry parfait, Diana, pow, Gemini, jubilee celebration, papa meilland, lavender lassie, and a few more I cannot remember.
Roses I cannot get to survive anywhere under any circumstances are JUST Joey and PJP 2..... No matter WHAT I do! And thank goodness for the rolling plant trolleys !
SCG, hope this helps. I do love being able to nurse a zone 7 thru a zone 5 winter and see them live, year after year.
It is essential to protect the tree roses as their grafts are up in the elements. The regular HTs are just so much bigger the next year when the have less winter kill.
Hi, Prairiemoon! I didn't really know what I was buying when I bought it :) It was one of those instant gratification purchases by someone who knew nothing about roses. It is a great rose, though, extremely healthy and cheerful. Since it's right outside a room where I do all my girly things, I work on it a lot. It gets a good pruning in January and then regular deadheading throughout the Spring and Summer, which is a bit of a chore because it's so floriferous. Now if it were only fragrant... ;)
Update... after all my research and having finally settled on Jens Munk we walk into Costco in September and spot five gallon Limelight hydrangeas for a killer price. So, we ended up buying 7 of those and planting my screening hedge in front of our bee hives... with veils on of course. :-) The hedge looks good, will look better in coming years, however, the look could be improved upon by a second "hedge" row of shorter roses in front of that... Jens Munk is out, too big for it... but a shorter rugosa rose, or maybe some of the shorter English roses advertised for hedging..hmmm... Choices choices...lol
Possibilities that come to mind, and assuming roses grow to a fairly predictable size in your zone 5b, are: Tamora, Munstead Wood, maybe The Prince; non Austins might include Bernstein-Rose, Easy Does It (might get too tall), Ebb Tide, or the new Carruth mini Diamond Eyes. DE's blooms are about 1 1/2 inches in diameter, but the bush is about 2 feet tall so far. Here's a pic of Diamond Eyes. Diane
Good choices.
I am near you - about 3 hours from Galveston in east Texas. I love my Tess. I have her on a huge fan shaped trellis - she has very healthy foliage and lots of nice blooms. Two of my favorite Austins are Carding Mill and Abe Darby. Wollerton Old Hall, new for me last year, does get really big, don't find the blooms fragrant like Austin says, but they are pretty. Sophy's Rose is a really good one - healthy foliage, lots of big pretty deep pink blooms. Bishop's Castle is good. Lady of Shallot looks to be big. I have quite a few new ones that are healthy and growing - they will do better next year. Great big for me are James Galway and Scepter d'Isle - like them a lot. I have Lady Emma and Munstead Wood planted where they get full sun until 2pm - hope they like it there. I really like Ambridge Rose too. Love the blooms on Jude......mine is very small though. I am getting another Young Lycadis - my chickens were scratching in that bed and killed it. The color is a different, brighter looking pink that I really like. Englands Rose was new for me last year - it started off looking and blooming fantastically.....then it starting dawdling around. Am hoping it will get going again in the spring - it was really nice. I want to try Princess Alexandra of Kent - have heard good things about it.
Do any of you all plan to try the new Austins? I want Boscobel, The Lark Ascending.......not sure about the others.
caldonbeck, the photos are fabulous!
Judith