22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thanks for letting us know. Doesn't hurt anything in the long run. Better safe than sorry.

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jkellydallas(8a)

Weeds, companion plants. ground cover. Call it what you will. LOL I'm trying to get the cantaloupes to shade out the other companions plants.

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seil zone 6b MI

We can only wait and hope that this isn't bad news for roses...again.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Any time there are fewer suppliers, the news is bad for consumers.

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Rya Gouge
Thanks for all the help! I will just leave them alone and keep watering. It's just so sad and alarming to see so many buds go to waste. Thanks and I'll keep you updated. My luck and we will have an early frost and I won't get anymore flowers this year!
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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Your pictures could have been taken in my flower beds. My knock outs look terrible. I am watering with soaker hoses multiple times a week and the ground is still cracking open. The heat has been horrendous, the leaves look stressed and burned. Many buds aren't opening and the ones that do have wimpy petals. Others here know more than I do but I know from how mine are responding that they need a lot of water right now.

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seil zone 6b MI

It should still be early enough to dig them out and sink them deeper. You've probably got at least 8 weeks of warm enough weather for them to get re-established before it gets really cold. Do as Countrygirl said and try to get a good undisturbed root ball and then sink that as deep as you want.

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kfless(Northern Illinois, Zone 5)

Thank you so much for your replies and the link to the video. I appreciate the input. Roses are new to me and I'm learning through my mishaps and mistakes.

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seil zone 6b MI

What a beauty! Wonderful clear yellow color!

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jerijen(Zone 10)

It's a baby plant, but I'm really impressed by it.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yes, please. Photos would be essential here.

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seil zone 6b MI

I doubt the blankets had anything to do with their getting black spot. You probably just had the right kind of weather conditions for an outbreak. And I doubt that it ever gets cold enough in NE FL to warrant any type of protection. Even if you get a frost or short freeze it's better to leave them alone. Unless the temps are going down below about 28 degrees for an extended time you don't need to protect them. We do need good clear photos to diagnose any diseases though.

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I use lots of manure before I plant. After that just when I can remember - a handful of pelletised garden food now and again. I think this rose loves lots of warmth and sun so that's more important than fertilisers. Most Austins would appreciate lots of water too. My roses are grafted on fortuniana so they are more drought tolerant.

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msdorkgirl(11)

It will remain under some shade until I'm certain that our temperature won't go into the 90's again, but I'll introduce it to some sun in the next week or two. It's in a 1 gallon as own-root, so crossing my fingers that the one bud I left on it will prove true. Thank you so much for the beautiful pictures and advice. I will post a picture of said bud soon.

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braverichard (6a, North MO)

Ok here's the deal... the William Baffin is not in a self watering container.

As for the others, last year my roses were wilting between the morning waterings and the evening waterings despite being in quite large pots - my backyard is very hot and windy in typical summers so they dry out fast. This year I decided to use the self watering pots to increase hydration midday - but this has been a wet summer until just last week. Will pull the water reservoirs and let them dry out as you all advise and go from there.

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braverichard (6a, North MO)

Just wanted to report back that the sudden death of canes and leaves seems to have ended... William Baffin is now planted too - I had the perfect spot for this bush which is pretty much a one time bloomer - full sun area until August after which it becomes part sun.

I removed everything from the self watering containers. Upon pulling the trays out, many of them were actually dry. So those containers probably were not the culprits - which means I still don't know what caused this.

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Yep, now that you mention it, the Golden Glow was probably the Hybrid Tea. I wasn't interested in it, so I didn't pay too close attention. That's where it's listed on hmf, though, so it's at least worth a look next year.

Cynthia

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

I have bought it a couple times there since I am always looking for good yellow roses, but don't have it now.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Cool engines! That's an expensive hobby for sure. They look like they can do 15-20mph, if you attach them with lawn tractors, you can win the race on pulling competition at your county fair. :-)

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sam 5a Adirondack

Hi Steve its good to hear from you. I am a fan of Buck roses too.

It would be cool to see your roses that you hybridized too.

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Oh that makes me sad. Ordering from Brecks was a little risky but with care and attention most of mine made it. The price even with a few losses was wonderful. I'm so sorry she wasn't successful. I hope she tries with roses again under some different circumstances.

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

it broke my heart when I saw them, they were so healthy when they arrived. She has a few other roses and says she is going to get some more in September. From comments she made, I think she expects to get them for the same price.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Hoping for a warmer winter, but that means more snow for us if the Lake Erie and Ontario stay unfrozen. I always have extra food and water, fur leggings in the car just in case for a blizzard snow storm. Last year a few miles from us got 7' snow in 24 hrs. One of my friends is still mad at me until today, that day before the snow storm, I got so excited at work, I wished for 2' of snow so I could go snow shoeing, she ended up with 7' snow and couldn't get out house for a week....., I only got 8".

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Ooh, what I don't want is a warmer winter. This year we had a record breaking warm February and not much other cold during winter, either (just a weird Nov. Alaska blast that ruined things), and what we got as a result was a glut of yellow jackets and wasps infesting everything. The poor hummingbirds can't use their feeder, even with nearby traps full of bugs' nasty bodies. And I'm outside blasting the feeder with jets of water and stomping drowning yellow jackets that fall to the ground from the feeder. Ugh.

What I'd like from El Nino is a moderation in the record breaking heat we keep having, and the severe windstorms that seem to be increasing--and of course, I'd like an end to our drought, too. It's hard to tell when we're in a drought because we receive so little precipitation, anyway, but we'll be lucky to end this year with eight or nine inches of rain, snow etc. All in all, it's the high winds when it's 100+ degrees that do the most damage that is immediately visible. I'm surprised I have any roses left! Diane

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Campanula UK Z8

I think they are just different rates so if you ordered 8 roses, you would get charged at the 'up to 10' rate whereas if you ordered 17 roses, it would be the 'up to 20'. I think these are inclusive so yep, 20 roses and not 19. Not sure what happens if you ordered 25 though (up to 30?).

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sutekesh Switzerland(6a)

That's how I understand it as well. Gets quite a lot cheaper when you order over 20.

- 21 to 45 roses € 27.50
- 46 to 100 roses € 35,00

Sharlene

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stillanntn6b

Well, damn, just damn. Two different viruses -same family- both hurting a major food crop.

Henry, do you have enough library access to see if Aceria cajani. is also the vector of PPSV1?

Is there any mention in the main springer article of specific symptoms?

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henry_kuska

Yes, they do mention the symptoms and have pictures.

"Field observations showed that PPSMV-2-infected

plants of different cultivars consistently exhibited mosaic

(Fig. 4a) and stunting, and, in a single case, sterility,

whereas chlorotic ringspots and line patterns of the leaves,

but no apparent decrease in vigour, were shown by

PPSMV-1-infected plants (Fig. 4b). When both viruses

were present in the same plant, these plants displayed

more-severe symptoms, i.e., chlorosis, leaf deformation,

mosaic and sterility typical of SMD (Fig. 4c and d)."

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Regarding mite spread:

"Successful ‘‘stapling transmission’’ experiments confirmed

the efficacy of this technique for transferring

PPSMV-1 and PPSMV-2 to healthy test plants (pigeonpea

and French bean) by A. cajani under greenhouse conditions.

However, it remains to be established if transmission

occurs with a different efficiency for each virus or if other

eriophyid mites have a role in their spread in nature."

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