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Kim Said: ". . . no one is perfect everywhere."
And that, really, is the point. MY right rose is someone else's WRONG rose.
We do ourselves a disservice when we insist on planting roses that are wrong for our conditions, and trying to make them work by using chemical solutions.
When we, instead, find the right roses for our climate, and grow THOSE, we've given ourselves a leg up on success.
Jeri
Just to round off this discussion (since this thread has been brought up for recent consideration), sometimes you have to ask some posters what they mean when they use a certain term.
I have several times suspected that some posters who brag about being "non-sprayers" do use the Bayer drench which they classify as a non-spray--whereas "non-spray" to me means not using a fungicide, regardless of whether it is sprayed or drenched.
Similar confusion sometimes occurs over the terms "disease-resistant" or "BS-resistant." I have noticed several times that some posters seem to mean that as a result of spraying a fungicide, the rose had no disease problems. In other words, to them, a rose that has disease problems is a rose that was sprayed with a fungicide but still has BS problems. To me, BS-resistant would refer to a rose that is not sprayed or drenched (usually) and does not exhibit much BS problems most of the time.
Another area of confusion is pesticide or insecticide. The organic soil posters often include fungicides with those terms. To me, a pesticide/insecticide is different from a fungicide--so I would use two separate terms.
But I will confess to contributing to some of the confusion on occasion since by "disease-resistant," I mean "BS-resistant" (the main disease my roses contend with) 90% of the time, but about 10% of the time, I use "Disease-resistant" in the much broader designation--all or many diseases, and not just BS-resistant--although I think I always include BS resistant in that broader category. The California growers sometimes throw me when they talk about "disease-resistant" since they often do NOT have BS on their minds and therefore are not including it in the broader term.
So, yes, sometimes you just gotta ask what that person means. : )
Kate
I am in Florida.
I also have a garden in Vermont in zone 4. In that zone 4 garden - two zones COLDER than your zone, I also plant only own root roses - successfully. It is a matter of wise selection and proper delivery and planting times.
Many of the folks that bought the GRAFTED 'rose of the year' for decades were perplexed about how it changed color the next year.
If you doubt that it is still happening, take a look at the thread linked below:
Here is a link that might be useful: Most Popular Own-Root Rose in my Neighborhood
I am in AZ as well 3400 Verde Valley
I have never covered a rose here(32 of them) I do keep wood mulch at the base year round. Winter to protect roots and to protect the roots from summer heat and keep the moisture in. We have gotten as low as 16 during Jan and all seem to do just fine. I do start trimming in late Dec through late Jan as it takes me awhile.
Michael G ...
Since we get a lot of rain and some snow, I do make sure that when I use a heavier mulch around a rose, that I make a collar to keep the mulch away from the crown of the rose.
So far, I have not seen much canker on these roses.
Smiles,
Lyn
Sadly, the clocks in the oven and the microwave don't adjust themselves . They tend to be the first ones I see upon staggering to the kitchen for the morning orange juice (after being rudely awaken by the mobile phone alarm, which gets switched off without looking at it). Nobody needs that panicked OMGI messedupmyalarmnow I'm anhourlate for work! thing that early in the morning, before the extra adrenaline reminds you that , hey..you forgot to reset the kitchen stuff, AGAIN this year... :)
It sounds like the bush's are trying to shut down for the winter. They've stored up all their goody stuff for the winter and are ready for a couple of months of sleep. This happens with most of my roses about this time of the year. Don't mess with them until next spring. To me it is like the bush is telling me it's happy and healthy and it'll be ready to do it's thing in the spring :)
Would love to see any photos.........if it wouldn't be too much off topic, it would be fun to start a thread on Christmas decorations. I put out a lot, inside and out. My big outdoor tree, made w/ a tall PVC pipe with twinkle lights going from ground to top, was put up before Halloween. My SO thinks the world would end if he isn't in the woods for opening of deer season, so I get him to do it before Halloween. I have big bells that my mother used to have on our house at Christmas - they are really unusual - and I seem to add things every year. I love looking at photos of decorating - so hope you all can share some. Now have to put the turkey yard art up and decorate around it with mums and pansies.
Just so my posts wont be too off topic.....I just bought the newer Lavender Veranda from Chamblees when I went there the other week. I really like this little rose! It is almost similar to the shade of lavender of Angel Face. It has lots of pretty little flowers and I think I am going to love this one. It might be nice in a pot too.......I need to make another trip up there and think I will get a couple more for a pot. Will get a photo as soon as I get a chance.
Thanks for the kitty compliments! They are real characters and so loveable!
Judith
Great thread, Seil! Thanks for starting it. These photos and comments on your thread are so heartwarming and cozy on this cold and dark, foggy mornin'. And so are all of you rosy friends participating on this!!! Alameda, your Spooky looks very much like my kitty, Velvet, except that Velvet has exceptionally long, white eyebrows. She and my other tuxedo kitten, Kit Kat, are sooo elegant and loving. Diane, I'm smitten with my 2 tuxedos, as well. Gotta love these snuggle bugs!! âÂÂ¥
Hello Nanito. I'm afraid I don't have the answer since there must be many dozens of old hybrid teas and the ones that were grown in Argentina may not be the same that we're familiar with here. It's very beautiful and would be well worth preserving if it's not already growing in your garden.
Ingrid
Mulch, and check your irrigation system.
Our system has 6 controllers which have 6 stations each. We check all of them when we turn it on in March. However, whenever I get a substantially larger water bill, my immediate assumption is that we have a leak somewhere.
That just happened, and we checked, and sure enough, we had two leaks - one in a soaker hose which is now buried under spreading ground cover daisies, and is not very visible. The other one I discovered yesterday morning. It is not even part of our automatic irrigation system - it was the top part of a standing hose bib which is attached to a hose and two soaker hoses. It is turned on manually, and then a timer turns it off. Where the timer attached to the other parts was spraying out water - I heard it as I was going out to get the morning paper (we suspect the deer which have been visiting us had something to do with it).
Our water company will refund excess charges if you can prove by pictures and repair bills that you really did have a leak and fixed it.
Jackie
I don't HATE Heirloom. I just hate that I don't get to enjoy the blooms because of their propensity to explode before I can see them. It seems like this quality isn't something the rose grows out of, so I feel justified in potting this up and perhaps passing on an early holiday gift to someone.
I know the plant looks crappy, mildewed, and gangly, but if Mister Linclon doesn't produce some of the most sumptuous smelling and rich, velvety red blooms in the garden then I'm the president. It's tucked away where it can do it's thing and not feel out of place however.
Some problem roses we find reasons to excuse, but others need to go. Heirloom is just in the latter group for me I suppose. And that is a great story Jeri, I can really picture that!
Jay
Hey terryjean, did you have a lot of black spot problem on yours?
I spray with Bayer Advance for blackspot. If I miss spraying, it seems to not mind it too much and will shrug off any BP issues....not like some of the HTs. I quit spraying all of the roses in August, and it didn't seem to mind terribly, while some of the gang BP'd terribly.