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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

It sounds like the bush's are trying to shut down for the winter. They've stored up all their goody stuff for the winter and are ready for a couple of months of sleep. This happens with most of my roses about this time of the year. Don't mess with them until next spring. To me it is like the bush is telling me it's happy and healthy and it'll be ready to do it's thing in the spring :)

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 3:12PM
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growing_rene2

Oh good, thank you all so very much!! I am so glad you guys are here and full of wisdom. :) :)

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 7:30PM
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rhapsody616(10B)

Can someone tell me the name of the company and provide a link to the page. Even if the sale is done.

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 5:18PM
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nancylee2(Z10 Gaviota Coast)

www.heirloomroses.com

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 5:49PM
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Happy Halloween!Even Golden Celebration decided to get into the act, lol!
Posted by seil zone 6b MI October 31, 2013
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alameda/zone 8

Would love to see any photos.........if it wouldn't be too much off topic, it would be fun to start a thread on Christmas decorations. I put out a lot, inside and out. My big outdoor tree, made w/ a tall PVC pipe with twinkle lights going from ground to top, was put up before Halloween. My SO thinks the world would end if he isn't in the woods for opening of deer season, so I get him to do it before Halloween. I have big bells that my mother used to have on our house at Christmas - they are really unusual - and I seem to add things every year. I love looking at photos of decorating - so hope you all can share some. Now have to put the turkey yard art up and decorate around it with mums and pansies.

Just so my posts wont be too off topic.....I just bought the newer Lavender Veranda from Chamblees when I went there the other week. I really like this little rose! It is almost similar to the shade of lavender of Angel Face. It has lots of pretty little flowers and I think I am going to love this one. It might be nice in a pot too.......I need to make another trip up there and think I will get a couple more for a pot. Will get a photo as soon as I get a chance.

Thanks for the kitty compliments! They are real characters and so loveable!
Judith

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 9:34AM
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Great thread, Seil! Thanks for starting it. These photos and comments on your thread are so heartwarming and cozy on this cold and dark, foggy mornin'. And so are all of you rosy friends participating on this!!! Alameda, your Spooky looks very much like my kitty, Velvet, except that Velvet has exceptionally long, white eyebrows. She and my other tuxedo kitten, Kit Kat, are sooo elegant and loving. Diane, I'm smitten with my 2 tuxedos, as well. Gotta love these snuggle bugs!! âÂÂ¥

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 2:02PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Hello Nanito. I'm afraid I don't have the answer since there must be many dozens of old hybrid teas and the ones that were grown in Argentina may not be the same that we're familiar with here. It's very beautiful and would be well worth preserving if it's not already growing in your garden.

Ingrid

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 10:02PM
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nanito(5)

Thanks for your words, Ingrid! Greetings from BA!
Mariano

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 12:28PM
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jacqueline9CA

Mulch, and check your irrigation system.

Our system has 6 controllers which have 6 stations each. We check all of them when we turn it on in March. However, whenever I get a substantially larger water bill, my immediate assumption is that we have a leak somewhere.

That just happened, and we checked, and sure enough, we had two leaks - one in a soaker hose which is now buried under spreading ground cover daisies, and is not very visible. The other one I discovered yesterday morning. It is not even part of our automatic irrigation system - it was the top part of a standing hose bib which is attached to a hose and two soaker hoses. It is turned on manually, and then a timer turns it off. Where the timer attached to the other parts was spraying out water - I heard it as I was going out to get the morning paper (we suspect the deer which have been visiting us had something to do with it).

Our water company will refund excess charges if you can prove by pictures and repair bills that you really did have a leak and fixed it.

Jackie

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 10:05AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Yeah, me too. I know my water usage was less this season because it was much wetter over all and I deliberately cut back on watering and my bill was still higher! Our rates went up again.

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 11:59AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Heh,heh, Susan, for me it must be grandmotherhood. Diane

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 1:58AM
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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

I don't HATE Heirloom. I just hate that I don't get to enjoy the blooms because of their propensity to explode before I can see them. It seems like this quality isn't something the rose grows out of, so I feel justified in potting this up and perhaps passing on an early holiday gift to someone.

I know the plant looks crappy, mildewed, and gangly, but if Mister Linclon doesn't produce some of the most sumptuous smelling and rich, velvety red blooms in the garden then I'm the president. It's tucked away where it can do it's thing and not feel out of place however.

Some problem roses we find reasons to excuse, but others need to go. Heirloom is just in the latter group for me I suppose. And that is a great story Jeri, I can really picture that!

Jay

    Bookmark     November 3, 2013 at 1:22AM
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seil zone 6b MI

A lot of "purples" look red. I wouldn't hold that against it. I think it's lovely!

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 8:16PM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

Gospel is lovely, isn't it? The name makes me wonder - a red lettering reference? Or the purple of the passion? (and then turning to a deep burgundy). Oh my heavens, I think it is sold out in the Bible Belt already.

And it won a fragrance award!

The real excitement is that it's a HT. That vast divide between the bench and the garden may be narrowing this century! What a delightful thought.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 9:08PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Great blog, Henry, thanks!

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 7:59PM
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seil zone 6b MI

My problem with just a google search is that there's just as much bad info out there as good. If you're a novice you have no way of knowing which is which.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 7:43PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Knowing what zone you are in would be very helpful. If you're in zone 8 or higher you may not need to do anything. In zone 7 some winter protection might be advisable. In zones 6 and lower you will need to protect it more heavily. If you have an unheated garage and are able to move the whiskey barrel in to it that would probably be the easiest way to protect it. The only thing you would need to remember is to water about once a month through the winter.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 7:31PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Good sensible advice!

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 7:27PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Helpmefind lists only Vintage as a supplier of Midnight, unfortunately.

Darker red, fragrant rose possibilities: Velvet Fragrance, Firefighter, Barcelona (aka Francis Dubreuil) Barcelona has a cupped rather than high-centered form. 'Deep Secret' is a darker but looks like it might be a little more difficult to find.

Oklahoma, Crimson Glory, Chrysler Imperial are other fragrant reds.

'Black Bacarra' has very dark red flowers, but they have little fragrance, and the flowers are smallish.

I'm sure others will offer more suggestions, perhaps better ones. Cold-hardiness may be something to think about, since you are in CO.

Here is a link that might be useful: Deep Secret @ helpmefind roses

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 10:00PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If you want a nice healthy, vigorous bush with lots of dark red blooms look at Crimson Bouquet too. It's a Grandiflora not an HT but it's a great rose for me.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 12:24PM
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Roselover1348(8)

jerijen, hard pruned because it was a bareroot that had dried out tips when i planted it. couldn't pass it up for one dollar. I guess my main question is if it is normal for it to be weak stemmed. I strip leaves and 50 percent prune at the end of december or beginning of january in order to give my roses a time out or else they bloom all year round and then they look tired and haggard. My queen elizabeth gets hacked back three times per year because when left unchecked grows to 6 feet tall. my climate is awesome and rabbit gold probably helps too. the only rose i have a problem with weak stems is the just joey. the main canes are fantastically strong but the shoots off the main canes are pretty weak.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 12:03AM
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seil zone 6b MI

My JJ was a weak grower and always had floppy necks too. I think it's just the nature of the rose. I wonder if grafting it to Fortuniana would help?

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 12:16PM
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alameda/zone 8

If you like apricot, try Royal Sunset - its beautiful! For reds, Dublin Bay and Dortmund. White - I love my Sally Holmes. I cut it like a standard - it is loaded with white blooms that are carried up past my head - it really stands out. I adore America - its a very different coral type shade that you might like. I am enjoying Crown Princess Margareta, though mine is paler than David Austin's photos of it. For a small pink bloom, I love Clair Matin and its fragrant. If you like orange/apricot, the mini Work of Art is really pretty - I was admiring mine this morning. I have seen Fourth of July blooming and it was really something - don't know why I haven't bought it.
Judith

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 12:51AM
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Campanula UK Z8

mmmm, shame it is so difficult to get hold of some of the European roses - in particular, there is a vibrant and ridiculously healthy little patio climber called Warm Welcome - for those keen on continuous orange bloomers, this is a terrific Chris Warner rose.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 11:27AM
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dregae

Wonderful !! Just what I was hoping.

Grace e

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 5:29PM
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kittymoonbeam

Mine is a pampered pet right now and will probably become even more spoiled if it keeps up with these outstanding blooms. Fragrant Cloud has really grown on me. Years ago, I didn't like the color at all but I have seen some real stunners over the years which had red-coral coloration and the color always seems to glow. I gave it to a neighbor who wanted a good fragrance rose and he planted it in front of blue green junipers so those roses shine out like traffic lights at a distance. I like to go over and smell them. I'm just going to have to get my own. I remember people saying the color was too harsh and they removed it when the dislike began for HTs years ago. Anyway, I'm glad that it gave us Velvet Fragrance.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2013 at 12:51AM
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