22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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dan_keil_cr Keil(Illinois z5)

Henry is just testing all of you.
Henry, As you well know RRD there is no easy answer. I have seen it a lot this year and had it on one of my minis. I am recommending for the client to remove the bushes that are showing any sign of it. I saw it at the University Of Illinois display garden and found it there and it was bad! The Horticulturist that had that part of the garden didn't even know what it was till our Rose Society Members got there and found it. Because there is a Master Gardener rose garden there they took the roses out.
To answer your question you know as well as I do there is no answer. I can have it and not see it again until two years later. It does not show up in the same area and it's always been on minis of all things!
Why has it hit your neighborhood so hard, I guess the wind currents were right. My guess is replacing them right away would result in the same thing. I'm sure not all the plant trash was cleaned up or all the roots taken out.
Yes I came over here after the shutdown!

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 9:19PM
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henry_kuska

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I posted someone else's active thread, as I stated: "I decided to post it here so that we can follow what their "experts" say."

I live in Ohio.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 9:45PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Why not take a look at the grandaflora, Twilight Zone. I know everyone that has this rose on the east side of the smokies loves it. Plant it on 3' centers then stand back and get ready for that "WOW!!!". I have several roses of the same variety planted on 2' centers for the one huge bush affect.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 7:28PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Thanks Kate, I'll plan on 2 1/2 to 3, perhaps I'll ask when I pick them up at Roses Unlimited, they always give me great advice, and since I am in the same zone they can tell me how t will likely grow for me. I agree they won't be close to the house. I'm kind of excited about this idea now, I only have one other single petal rose and I've been wanting more. Thanks again

Thanks Ken, Twilight Zone is definitly a beauty. i really want to stay with red though since on my side yard I have a row of red azaleas going down the length of the driveway so I'm looking to stay with the same color in front too.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 9:31PM
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bluegirl_gw

Well, it's just a little one...

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 1:45PM
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floridarosez9

I love the video of one running around with strings of Christmas lights dangling from its antlers.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 2:34PM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Actually, while I am no professional, Kate could be correct. It is possible your browser is inadvertently bringing up an old version of the web page or one with an error from within your cache. Regardless it won't hurt, will free up memory and is well worth a try to clear it. The more times you have an error bringing up a web page the greater the chance your browser has to pick it.

While I haven't run windows in years you used to be able to set how much memory your cache was able to use. I would set this quite low as your cache isn't nearly as important now a days as it was before high speed.

Good luck.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 12:40AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Not speaking for others, but usually when forum members offer a couple of thoughts on solving a problem it is because they want to help. I don't think either Kate or I deserved your reply.

Good luck with your garden, roses and computer.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 12:59PM
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prickles(Los Angeles, CA)

gophers and rats?--no, only enterprising squirrels here at their little industry of farming peanuts and stones from fruits, and skunks searching for earthworms dig so deep into the rose bed that they expose some of the roots.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 2:24AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Jeri, I need to invest in a few of those.

As long as a few neighbors have breeding grounds for them, they will continue to be an issue. It was only the little baby rats that used to make it in the coop. Now they are cat toys and are locked out! Varmints were digging 2 feet under pavers to get in.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 12:35PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

And this is Buxom Beauty almost fully open.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2013 at 10:11PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh!! I know I'm going to love this one!!! I like the darker edging!!!
Carol :)

    Bookmark     October 27, 2013 at 1:07AM
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mike_rivers(z5 MI)

Karen, I haven't had much time this year to work with my roses but all six of the Kordes roses are doing fine. None of them has been sprayed and none has shown even a trace of blackspot. None of them has been watered, either, and that has probably hurt the rebloom. The three roses that most impress me with both their looks and their rebloom are Pomponella, Golden Fairy tale and Red Riding Hood. Cinderella Fairy Tale has not been especially good at rebloom but again that may be due to a lack of water. None of the roses had more than a few inches of dieback last Winter and all of the roses have canes approaching six feet. I plan to do fairly severe pruning next Spring and I suspect I will end up with fairly bushy 4 foot plants, which will suit me fine. I placed an order with Palatines for 4 more Kordes roses for Spring delivery: Pink Martini, Beverly, Poseidon and Zaide. Overall, I'm very pleased with my Kordes roses - but I'm not about to give up my Austins, either.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2013 at 2:12PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

As much as I admire my Kordes roses, I find they do not make my heart sing the way my Austins do.

Glad to hear your Kordes bed is doing so well.

Kate

    Bookmark     October 26, 2013 at 8:57PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Well, if you agree with this little study, you and I actually agree on something. Up here in my neck of the woods they introduce children to gardening in 1st grade. I've been told by some of the "old timers" that since the schools started doing this that the vast majority still do gardening of some sort when they are on their own (adults).

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 10:00PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I've known this a long time. Teach them early and even if they take a break for a while as busy young adults eventually they'll come back to it when they have the time.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2013 at 10:53AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Thanks for the explanation roseseek... I've heard of bluing but I've never seen one turn anywhere near that purple before...
Conditions must of been perfect for the effect...

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 9:16PM
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roseseek(9)

You're welcome, Jim. It's the same issue with many russet roses. Brown Velvet and Victoriana are actually brilliant orange, but when conditions are right, they "blue" and appear chocolate brown. Many other roses do it, too. Just the way the pigments age. Kim

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 9:20PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Susan - I hope I am understanding correctly, the one on the other side of it is Double Delight and it is Forgotten Dreams. I think the one kind of in the middle, behind Double Delight is Buxom Beauty, it is fully open now and is huge. I'm sure that is as clear as mud! lol!

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 6:46PM
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susan4952(5)

Beauties, all!

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 6:50PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Amazing what a little TLC will do. I pruned Forgotten Dreams way back this spring and this is its latest flush. I'm pleased.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 9:19PM
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susan4952(5)

What a beauty!

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 6:01PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yes, I'm a semi-retired professor of English.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 11:43AM
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    Bookmark     October 25, 2013 at 5:13PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

amberroses,

Gee I felt warm just hearing about your 90 degrees in Florida...
It got down to 35 degrees here last night... brrrrr

    Bookmark     October 24, 2013 at 10:34AM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Ah, Diane - that makes sense to explain why things won't kick back in for the fall once you pass a certain point. Weak sun affecting the plant's photosynthesis must mean it can't generate enough energy to get past the bud stage even if the buds come out. Not that I've been over-blessed with buds either - it's like the roses decided they'd already met their criteria for number of blooms in the spring and they were done for the season.

Speaking of seasons in Idaho and Spokane, I noticed an interesting phenomenon this week. I was in Seattle for work, and driving in from the airport I noticed that their trees in zone 7 (or 8?) were WAY more advanced than ours in zone 5 Nebraska. Clearly that must have something to do with how far north Seattle is from us, even though it's warmer. You'd think their fall would be later, but it's not. I wonder if spring is also delayed there because of the distance north - do the tulips ever bloom past the first week of May in those climates?

Just curious - one of those minor little puzzles that distract me from wanting to kick the roses into higher gear.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     October 24, 2013 at 8:54PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Hi, rross! You're coming into spring there so now is the time to start easing them out. Are they still in seed trays or potted up individually? In trays they are easier to take out for a few hours during the warmest part of the day. If potted find some trays to carry them in and out on. Start with just a few hours and gradually work that up to the full day of sun. If there is no longer any chance of frost at night you can also take them out and leave them. Start them out in full shade and gradually work them out to full sun. Either way they should do fine. Roses are pretty tough, even the little guys!

    Bookmark     October 24, 2013 at 11:49AM
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rross(NSW Aust)

Thank you, Seil. I've got a shaded outdoor deck. I'll start with that.

    Bookmark     October 24, 2013 at 8:02PM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Andrea while you may not have any antique roses I highly suggest the forum. While it is mostly the same people a lot great information is discussed. I learn a pile from both forums.

Have a great day :)

SCG

    Bookmark     October 24, 2013 at 4:08PM
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andreark

Kippy,

Do you have Windows 8? I do and Chrome doesn't seem to like it. But thanks anyway.

And SCG,

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look at it.

andrea

    Bookmark     October 24, 2013 at 5:40PM
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