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Glad your roses are coming back from the dead. Most people don't realize how long it takes when the winter has been so bad. I dug up a wonderful red rose that I just loved last year when I figured it was dead. I should have given it a good 2 months more. I did not know at the time. I feel terrible that I didn't give it a chance.
Well Diane, you know in Macbeth there were a lot of Royal Danes (well OK, Thanes) walking around as ghosts, so you never know. I'll be happy if it merely stands, not walks.
Good to know more than 4 photos is possible, and sometimes I can, sometimes not. The Houzz photo system is nothing if not picky.
Don't regret too much digging roses earlier than needed in the spring JJ & Donna - gardening, particularly with roses, is a process of learning. We can almost always get second chances, and our gardens become stronger and more beautiful as we learn.
Cynthia
Zone 7b is for cane hardiness, the HMF default rating for HTs. The rose will survive some zone 5 winters, but will usually need to be pruned to the ground. There are some HTs that are hardier, for example 'Savoy Hotel'.
Almost all HTs are highly susceptible to blackspot, including DD and Chrysler. One older one that is resistant in most gardens is 'Elina'. 'Prairie Harvest' by Buck is both hardy and BS-resistant, as is 'Mother of Pearl'. Some of the new ones are said to be resistant, including Francis Meilland, Pink Enchantment (Souv. de Baden-Baden), Parole (Buxom Beauty), Grande Dame. Also worth a try in no-spray gardens are Berolina and The McCartney Rose.
Nick - I grow all of the ones you mention and they have survived my zone 5 yard too. Double Delight is VERY late to put out new growth, and all of the ones you mention are not cane hardy. As Michael mentioned, these roses die down to the ground and need all their cane pruned off in spring. Chrysler Imperial grows back well but after about 7 years is a 2-cane wonder with occasional blooms. Double Delight is a scrawny little thing and some years doesn't grow back enough to bloom (sigh). Dream Come True or Heart 'n' Soul are much more reliable "showy" HT roses for me. Tropicana grows back quite quickly, and I'm pleasantly surprised after Corretta's first winter that she seems pretty happy.
All of these should be possible for you in zone 5
Cynthia
Hi Jacquie, I don't grow it myself but have several friends that do. It can be tip hardy in mild winters but in colder ones, like the past two, it dies down almost too the ground. They all have it on a trellis of some sort though. It does black spot and in really hot humid weather the blooms can ball up and not open.
after not counting the roses in pots #4, i have 18 roses. 7 fall under #6 and if you count the 2 from cuttings that were given to me, that leaves 9. 1 under #3 and 5 under #5 leaves 3! Rounding down (#7) leaves 2! I'm glad I ordered those 14 from Breck's because I am almost roseless. OH, just realized I'll still only have 2 because of #12. Yipes! I need to buy more roses. kublakan, you will still only have a handful because bareroots don't count. LOL
Haha -- that was me! And while I'm in NJ now, I'm a New Yorker through and through. I've also been posting pics of my 2-year-old garden in the thread linked below.
:-)
~Christopher
I would say dig it out and replant it lower. Dig the hole extra large and include lots of good dirt and organic matter. I have found that generally anything can be successfully replanted even if it has bad root structure like my now 13th tomato plant. It just takes great dirt and waaaaaaaaaaater!!!!!! Like every single morning. I have found the biggest set back is often a year of poor growth.
There could be a lot of reasons why it's not growing but I'm sure it took a hard hit from winter. I would dig it out, getting as big a root ball as possible, and replant it at a lower depth. It might set it back again temporarily but in the long run it will do better.
Summer, I was looking at the Wayside website but was put off by so many negative reviews online. I had been thinking of Tranquility, Molinieux & everlasting amethyst hydrangea. I'm just not in the mood of dealing with a hassle if the plants are disappointing. Have you ordered from Wayside?
Yes, I have ordered a lot since I saw John's thread. :-) I received 12 of them so far, and 10 more are on their way, and my rose friend at work just asked me if I wanted to order with her again today, I put down for 3 more. Lol
There are some photos of the roses I received on John's thread . The roots were huge, and the roses all have David Austin's rose tags on them. Some of them are own root roses. I am pretty happy about the roses I received so far, the roots are much bigger than the ones I ordered from David Austin Roses in TX, and I paid about $120 for 4 DA roses 3 weeks ago.
The 10 roses on their way are 6xTranquillity, 1 Alnwick, 2x Carding Mill, 1 Heathcliff.
Happy shopping! :-)
Put your hand behind the stem, and support it, while washing with water.
Or you can just brush/squish them. If you leave them, as ozmelodye says, birds will eat them.
Don't use pesticide. That's like trying to swat flies with a sledge hammer.
Don't use oils in hot weather, or when hot weather is expected. You will burn the foliage, and do far more damage than a few aphids.
Don't worry. Between birds, predatory insects, and rising temperatures, they will soon be gone.
When roses are attacked by aphids, they produce a chemical that repels further aphids.
"Author: MILES P W
Author Address: WAITE AGRIC. RES. INST., UNIV. ADELAIDE, ADELAIDE, S. AUST.
Title: DYNAMIC ASPECTS OF THE CHEMICAL RELATION BETWEEN THE ROSE APHID MACROSIPHUM-ROSAE AND ROSE BUDS
Published in: Entomologia Experimentalis et Applicata, volumn 37, pages 129-136, (1985).
Abstract: "Dynamic aspects of the chemical relation between the rose aphid [Macrosiphum rosae] and rose buds.In warm weather, M. rosae (L.) walks off buds of hybrid tea roses during a critical period coinciding with the opening of the sepals. This behavior could not be related to histologically detectable barriers to feeding, nor to changes in the water content of the tissues or in their composition with respect to total soluble carbohydrate, amino nitrogen or phenolic compounds; major changes in tissue chemistry, effected by spraying the bushes with urea, did not affect the time at which the aphids left the buds. Tissue sap expressed from stems and sepals showed a significant increase in catechin content after, rather than during, the critical period. Once expressed, however, sap from buds at the critical stage showed a sharp in vitro rise in catechin content over a few hours, up to levels approximating those against which the insects discriminated in choice tests. The insects could well be sensitive to a developing capacity of tissue to accumulated catechin, possibly in response to their feeding activity."
For the record, I don't have a "ghetto". All my potted roses live in a very high-class neighborhood, lol.
Seriously, I *think* I have *approximately* 25, the last time I *estimated* and before I *rounded up* and *subtracted* and *replaced* and *substituted*. That's even AFTER the raccoon fiasco.
John
Let's see. 2 mini's in decor pots out front, 10 mini's in permanent 7 1/2 pots in the mini/miniflora section on the south side of the house. Another 10 miniflora's in 10 gal. pot in the same section. 4 in my holding section and 5 out in the HT section that will go into the ground starting tomorrow. I only have 1 in a starting pot but that will change a LOT on Monday as I take cuttings and get a bunch started.