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rosetom(7 Atl)

It's leaf stress - heat and drought, rain at the wrong time, old age leaves, etc.

That is not RMV.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 10:36PM
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blocke19

Thank you all! I guess I'll just wait and see. It has been an incredibly wet spring thus far here

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 4:52PM
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needinfo1(4b)

So, can I thin out the old canes and also lop off end growth on the longer canes that have just gotten too long and made the entire shrub too big for me?

Thanks again.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 3:39PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yes.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 3:48PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

Your choice. I just cut back my Blushing Knock Out this past weekend (not enough). I find that by pruning (hedge clipping), you get consistant coverage on the rebloom. If you leave them alone, you get rebloom, but some here, some there...

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 12:55PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yes. You can.

Jeri

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 12:47PM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

rideau

Impressive pic's. love your morden sunrise....I fell in love with that one this year......

Impressive all...you all make me rose envious..

SCG

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 11:59PM
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socks

Best picture: Fame (blossoms stay on the bush for weeks and even if faded they add color to the garden)

Best actor in a leading role: Mellow Yellow (planted front and center, always blooming, "look at me" kind of bush)

Best actress in a leading role: Julia Child (love those bright yellow blooms, bushy bush)

Best actress in a supporting role: Betty Boop (blooms and blooms, never has any issues with mildew, no need to deadhead)

Best actor in a supporting role: Christopher Marlowe (just a small bush, blooms regularly, trouble free)

Best visual effects: Gourmet Popcorn (a mini which really does look like popcorn)

Best foreign language: Yves Piaget (love the blooms on this bush, but sadly, a tree is shading it and it suffers mildew but blooms on)

Best visual effects: Dark Lady (love the blooms, but another mildew magnet)

Lifetime achievement: Snowfire (has been in place well over 30 years in a difficult, hot location. It carries on year after year.)

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 10:21AM
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dutchrose71(6b)

What about Lavaglut? I do not grow it-- it is on my "next year" list.

I have read and heard many good things about it-- though I'm not sure it would meet your height requirement.

Nor do I know firsthand about JB avoidance, but my experience this year is that JBs go for the yellow roses.
I'm also hearing good things about Europeana...

    Bookmark   June 24, 2013 at 9:13PM
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Hanna0523

Hi everyone,

Thank you so much for your reply. glad I asked here. wow. Home Run is beautiful!

I found my local nursery was selling Flower Carpet Rose Scarlet for 20% off. I don't know about this rose so didn't take it. But is anybody growing Flower Carpet Rose?

thank you in advance for your input.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 10:20AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Dead-head and water and enjoy your roses.

That's about it for now. : )

Kate

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 6:30AM
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socks

Nadia, I enjoyed looking through your 11 roses. Very interesting.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 9:50AM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

I've seen it win some awards for form. ;-)

Fragrant Cloud has a true exhibition quality to it, and is relatively unique with it's habit of reflexing the bottom petals. Touch of Class is another rose that does that and we all know of its exhibition capability.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 10:24PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Rosetom,
I'm glad to hear that it hasn't been forgotten for it's great form. I thought it might have gotten lost in the barrage of 'newer better crazier' (ha!)

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 2:13AM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

mispelled- it's spelled Carmagnole! Sorry

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 1:28AM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

i found someone who can do a custom graft. My question is it worth having done for a show prospect? Is the form good enough? does anyone have any experience at all with this rose as far as exhibiting.

It's won several medals overseas but little data exists for US. It's such a lovely looking one.
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 2:07AM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Agreed! There are some really great roses that still win once in awhile. Last weekend Cleo HT won Queen. I don't even know where you'd get that one anymore.

Olympiad has done well here too. I hope they continue to recognize great form over the newest craze.

Anyone else have luck with an older rose?

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 2:01AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

Hi Emsie, If the canes are brown on the bottom, but still green and blooming on top, you should keep those. Only cut out the canes that are dead all the way up.

I'm not sure what zone you are in, but it could be that the rose suffered from black spot and that's why you don't have any leaves. Some of my climbers get like that if I don't spray them. But if you do trim back some of the tips, they will put out new leaves.

You can also try to trim back the lilac so the rose gets more sun.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 9:51PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Buford said it before I did.

Cut away anything that is dead from top-to-bottom.
Keep what still has green coming from it.

What I personally would do with this rose is sit on the ground and follow each of those short canes from the bottom to the top. If they're dead the whole way, remove them as far down as you can. If they're growing something, leave them be.

Once all the truly dead stuff is gone, you can see better.

Jeri

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 11:09PM
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mgleason56(Michigan 5b)

I have been using this Fimco sprayer from Rosemania now for a few years. I can do all my roses mixing just once, and the wheels make it very easy to cart around.

Here is a link that might be useful: Battery operated sprayer

    Bookmark   June 24, 2013 at 9:59AM
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roseperson(z5 S/E MI)

Thanks to all of you for your feedback. SpotShot is a bit expensive for me; I will have to do some more research before I come to a conclusion. Atomist probably is not a choice because of health hazard.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 10:47PM
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vtstar

Thanks everyone for your help in identifying this rose. It has been a favorite of mine for years. And it looks like now I can have it in two colors! Janice

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 9:41PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

ALL of the Kosters are neat. I wish more of them were more-readily available.

Jeri

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 9:43PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'm in Tyrone Pa (Central Pa). I did not have much luck
with outta the blue or easy does it... They blackspotted badly here. (no spray)...
But your strain of BS may be different in your area...?

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 8:36PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

I can't help you with info on roses, but just wanted to say how happy I am for you. It sounds as though you got everything you wanted in a home, and beginning a new garden is always so exciting.

Ingrid

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 9:27PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Your Lavaglut is beautiful! Sorry about Purple Rain. I though maybe shade would help too. What are the petals like? Are they very thin. Sometimes roses with very thin petals just don't hold up well. Ones with more substance seem to last longer.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 7:42PM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

PR is a new bare root planted this spring, so not an established plant. I hadn't thought of this as possibly just a new rose problem, but good point.

The petals are quite small, but thin? I'm not sure. So far they've shriveled up so fast I can't tell! I've been looking on HMF and everyone else's pics look great, nothing at all like what mine looks like, darnit.

It's in a pot so I'll give it a trial in a spot with afternoon shade. It's a really BIG pot, my husband will be so thrilled. Or maybe I should just dis-bud it this year anyhow since it's a new plant. There are dozens and dozens of blooms and probably that's too much stress for the first year.

Could this be an indication that it doesn't like growing in a pot?

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 8:35PM
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