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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I take it that your GS is in a pot/container of some kind, and is not bareroot? If it is bareroot, soak it in a bucket overnight and plant immediately. If it is in a pot/container, the practice usually is to wait until the last danger of a heavy freeze has gone by and then plant it. In the meantime, put the container next to a southern foundation and water occasionally--and put it in the garage overnight if the nighttime temps fall down to freezing.

I'm in Zone 6 Kansas--our last freeze date is sometime around mid-April, so your last freeze date in Zone 7b might be around April 1 or there-abouts.

Kate

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Zyperiris(Seattle)

YES..Paul Zimmerman on U tube..he gives the best little lessons. Beware..you must need your main canes first..train them properly as Paul suggests.

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seil zone 6b MI

It doesn't look like it was ever in commerce so probably not.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Good reliable yellow HT you're getting there, sara. Just remember it is not a big lush showy golden-yellow like Gina Lollabrigida or Henry Fonda. It is a more subdued mild yellow and not always the largest bloom in the garden. It is also (so far at least--mine is still "new") quite bs-resistant, fragrant, and seems to have a good re-bloom rate. A bit taller than most of my other HTs, but they tend to be the shorter ones anyway.

Overall, a charming yellow.

Do let us know how she does in your garden.

Kate

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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you Kate. Yes I do realize it's not one of the big showy yellows, I'm looking for dependability and it sounds promising. I'll keep you posted.

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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

That's too bad! I tried rooting some for the first time this winter; two Valentine's Day roses - Pailine (I think) and Amelia. I left two sets of leaves, scored the bottoms of the stems, used rooting hormone, and potted them directly into soil. Then I set them in a window with a heating pad underneath and plastic pop bottles over top. Out of ten, one Amelia is still alive and setting new leaves. The rest are dead as door nails. The rest all went moldy. Next time I'll pot them into sand - I've read on GW that that's a good way. Don't give up! It's still fun to try!


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donaldvancouver(cool wet z8)

Hi- leaving aside for a moment the ethical/legal questions of rooting florist roses (if they are patented, that is), you may have much more success with chip-budding them onto existing rootstock than with trying to root cuttings. It is surprisingly easy.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

drip system clogged? looks like it died of thirst. check how moist the soil is after running the drip system. standard ("tree") roses are easier to kill, too.

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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Whoops! Yeah. Its RRD.

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I'm sorry I got the pic mixed up. If that is Ebb Tide, it is looking more like mine do in the summer. I'm hoping you get some really dark blooms. ET and Twilight Zone have pretty much the same color in spring and fall, but ET fades out in summer up here. I remember it was worse when the plants were really young. Keep us posted. Diane

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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z9a

Diane,

Will do. I certainly hope the difference in coloration is due to the plant being immature. The summers here are like hades, the trade off is a comfortable climate most months of the year. We have had sunny blue skies and daytime highs in the 70's since February, which is quite ideal for roses.

Lynn

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Espoma Plant-tone will work just fine for roses, and your other plants as well. I use Espoma Holly-tone.

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edenh(z9)

Thanks for reminding me of backflow preventer. I took if off because I was trying to figure out the order of installing different parts. I woke up one night at 2am to what sounded like rain only to find out that it was the water spraying out from the backflow thingy. I bought a new one but forgot to install it.
OTOH, the emitters are dripping but at 1G I probably need to put it on for 1 hour for the roses that are in 7 gallon pots.

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FinallyThe deer are eating weeds.
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socks

Good!!! We don't even have deer; cannot even imagine how disappointing it must be to have them grazing on rose buds.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

auto weed eaters..... just stay away from your roses...

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seil zone 6b MI

You know, Sara, if you really would like to keep them in the pots instead of the ground there is a thing called root pruning that would let you do that. Since I keep a lot of roses in pots permanently I've had to learn how to do that.

There are variables, of course, the vigor of the plant, the pot size and such, but in a cold zone you usually would only have to do this about every 3 to 5 years. I can tell when one of my pots needs to be root pruned when I water it. If the water goes in the top and almost immediately starts running out the bottom that usually tells me the rose is root bound in the the pot and there isn't much soil left in there.

Early spring is the best time to do it because you will be pruning back the plant anyway so pruning off some of the roots shouldn't hurt it. You don't want to have fewer roots with a huge plant on top that it can't feed. Besides it's going into full growth mode and will start growing those root back quickly. Let the pot get a little dry. This helps to keep the root ball easier to handle. Slip out the root ball and carefully trim off some of the bottom and sides of the root ball. I trim mine by about half. Then repot the plant with fresh potting soil. Water it well and it should start to grow again in no time.

Hope that helps!

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sara_ann-z6bok

Seil - Thank you so much! I really appreciate you letting me know about the root pruning.

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sara_ann-z6bok

Pat - Your TOC roses are lovely!

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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely pictures everyone!

I wish I could grow it. I've seen it win Queen of Show here more than once so I know it must grow well in my area but I tried it twice and both times it died on me. :(

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litchfieldgardener

It's seems that are Jekyll/Hyde Horticos: the good one and the bad one. I've bought there for the past 20+ years, because they usually stock varieties I can't find anywhere else. And sometimes I've had plants delivered that I couldn't possibly improve on--big, plump roots carefully wrapped and still moist. But other times...one year instead of 3 Ballerinas, they sent me one B. and 2 Sally Holmes, all tagged as Ballerina. Two years ago my order was missent to San Diego, and 3 weeks later arrived in CT, totally dessicated. To their credit, they are replacing the 3 that died, out of 4--but only after insisting that they're packed to survive at least 3 weeks! Well, good luck with that. I vowed never to return. But then, when I couldn't locate City of York anywhere (Googling hard), guess who had it. The grower you love to hate.

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litchfieldgardener

It's seems that are Jekyll/Hyde Horticos: the good one and the bad one. I've bought there for the past 20+ years, because they usually stock varieties I can't find anywhere else. And sometimes I've had plants delivered that I couldn't possibly improve on--big, plump roots carefully wrapped and still moist. But other times...one year instead of 3 Ballerinas, they sent me one B. and 2 Sally Holmes, all tagged as Ballerina. Two years ago my order was missent to San Diego, and 3 weeks later arrived in CT, totally dessicated. To their credit, they are replacing the 3 that died, out of 4--but only after insisting that they're packed to survive at least 3 weeks! Well, good luck with that. I vowed never to return. But then, when I couldn't locate City of York anywhere (Googling hard), guess who had it. The grower you love to hate.

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deervssteve(9)

Here's the opposite: I took two canes on Duchess de Brabant and tied them to the outside two stakes in the picture. The growth on the top is too tall for the deer, so I will get some blooms. The rest of the bush is sprawling and anything I get from those canes will be a bonus.

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daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres

I believe that the original Kiftsgate rose was planted many years ago as an unsupported shrub. It didn't mind, it just took over half a border.
Daisy

Here is a link that might be useful: The original Kiftsgate

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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

If you like a good, nonfading yellow for Arizona heat I can totally recommend MELLOW YELLOW. It didn't have a lot of fragrance for me in the blast furnace area that I planted it in. Sure loved the heat!! And it always came through our winters with flying colors. No diseases at all, but then my garden is semi-arid. That's all that I recall on growing this one. Sorry I don't have any experience in growing Summer Love, Happy Go Lucky, or Sparkle & Shine. :)

This post was edited by dove_song on Thu, Mar 20, 14 at 19:09

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boncrow66

Yes most definitely prune them back and they will come back beautiful. My husband prunes ours with hedgers and it doesn't hurt them at all. It keeps them in a uniform shape.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

wait until the forsythia blooms in your area (it is a large shrub with yellow flowers). It should be in the next few weeks (the ones here are late this year).

Double KO doesn't need anything special for pruning, hedge clippers would be fine. Use hand pruners to take out any dead or damaged canes.

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seil zone 6b MI

Any of these suggestions are good but you have to be very careful to remove covers during the day so they don't over heat inside and fry. Particularly with the bell jars or pop bottles because they will magnify the sun. At least with the cardboard if you forget it will be in shade not sun.

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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Everything above will either be complicated or will lead to rot on hot days.

What I do is mound chickweed around the new growth. Chickweed has a high water content, continues (for a while) to live after it's been pulled up by the roots, won't add to any propensity to rot, can by grown through by new rose growth, is free (and most of us have it readily available at this time of the year.)

It won't be blown off by spring winds (boxes), it won't magnify the strength of the sun.

It's easy and will eventually (about May) die on its own and become compost.

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